Stve Jobs Has Died
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Personally, I've never been much of an Apple fan, but at the same time, I've always been awed by Jobs' ingenuity and imagination. He really is the greatest inventor of our generation IMO. Its so sad that he lost his long fight with cancer at such a young age, but over the last few years, its been very encouraging to see him still working and creating and just generally being his brilliant self despite his failing health. Not only was he a visionary but he was a very courageous human as well.
He was also a bi-racial liberal. Muslim Syrian father/Caucasian mother, adopted to another family. He once came home from an Asian trip in Buddhist robes, used LSD and adhered to counter-culture customs in his youth, and financially supported liberal causes regularly. It was said that it bothered him that liberals criticized the Apple sweatshops overseas.undercoverjoe wrote:They are doing a story about him on CNBC and he built this great company without going to the government for any favors or loans. He never went to the government lobbying for anything. I never thought of that, and now admire the guy a lot more.
He inspired his employees to make a good product, and had a great grasp of what consumers liked and wanted. I only own 2 Apple products (ever), but they work well... my very early Apple laptop still functions flawlessly even after nearly 20 yrs!
And?songsmith wrote: He was also a bi-racial liberal. Muslim Syrian father/Caucasian mother, adopted to another family. He once came home from an Asian trip in Buddhist robes, used LSD and adhered to counter-culture customs in his youth, and financially supported liberal causes regularly. It was said that it bothered him that liberals criticized the Apple sweatshops overseas.
I admire the fact that he built a billion dollar empire and enabled millions of people to find employment without any help from the government.
I don't care who his parents were.
Actually, Apple was grown on money from gov't public schools, throughout the 1980's. Most schoolkids never touched a PC until Windows 3.0 or even later. All those school contracts kept the company afloat through the lean years.undercoverjoe wrote: I admire the fact that he built a billion dollar empire and enabled millions of people to find employment without any help from the government.
I don't care who his parents were.
Obviously, I'm not diminishing the guy's skills, just your usual angst over Kenyan this and socialist that. You REALLY care who SOME people's parents are.
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Yeah, I remember using the Apple IIs in elementary school. We used to play Oregon Trail and leave rather juvenile messages on the tombstones. *lol* Then in junior high, it was Macs with ClarisWorks. Good times. My school finally moved to PCs when I hit senior high, but we still kept a Mac lab.songsmith wrote:
Actually, Apple was grown on money from gov't public schools, throughout the 1980's. Most schoolkids never touched a PC until Windows 3.0 or even later.
I was always a PC guy and the Apple-snob hipsters always annoyed me a bit; but I do respect what Jobs and Wozniak did for the technology sector.
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I can't say enough about Steven Jobs and his contribution to society. He could be considered the Henry Ford or Thomas Edison of our time.
He did give me a lot of headaches when I worked as a network admin at Penn State, though. lol
He did give me a lot of headaches when I worked as a network admin at Penn State, though. lol
FYI: Arabs, including Syrians, are classified as caucasians.songsmith wrote:He was also a bi-racial liberal. Muslim Syrian father/Caucasian mother, adopted to another family.undercoverjoe wrote:They are doing a story about him on CNBC and he built this great company without going to the government for any favors or loans. He never went to the government lobbying for anything. I never thought of that, and now admire the guy a lot more.
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Turned out that he was conservative to today's liberal standards!songsmith wrote:He was also a bi-racial liberal. Muslim Syrian father/Caucasian mother, adopted to another family. He once came home from an Asian trip in Buddhist robes, used LSD and adhered to counter-culture customs in his youth, and financially supported liberal causes regularly. It was said that it bothered him that liberals criticized the Apple sweatshops overseas.undercoverjoe wrote:They are doing a story about him on CNBC and he built this great company without going to the government for any favors or loans. He never went to the government lobbying for anything. I never thought of that, and now admire the guy a lot more.
He inspired his employees to make a good product, and had a great grasp of what consumers liked and wanted. I only own 2 Apple products (ever), but they work well... my very early Apple laptop still functions flawlessly even after nearly 20 yrs!
Steve Jobs did not make all our our public schools a federal government run agency. The schools used to be all run by local school boards and local governments. The Federal Dept. of Education should be eliminated immediately and let local school boards run their schools again.songsmith wrote: Actually, Apple was grown on money from gov't public schools, throughout the 1980's. Most schoolkids never touched a PC until Windows 3.0 or even later. All those school contracts kept the company afloat through the lean years.
I believe that those locally run schools would have still bought all those Apple computers. Did private schools buy Apples?
Stumpy, I don't judge people by who their parents are (and by you being the only one to post it, you must), but the Constitution does like our presidents to be born in this country.
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bassist_25 wrote: Yeah, I remember using the Apple IIs in elementary school. We used to play Oregon Trail and leave rather juvenile messages on the tombstones.
ha ha ha, we had those in my middle school too, complete with Oregon Trail! Strangely enough, I really enjoyed using the Macs back then. We had an old Mac lab in my high school also and when I was on the newspaper staff we had to go use the ancient Macs instead of the shiny new(ISH) PCs in the library. They drove me nuts!! To this day, I can't stand using Mac's OS no matter how much Microsoft's various software annoys me.
Stumpy? Oh, Joe, that Reaaallllllly hurt my feelings!undercoverjoe wrote: Stumpy, I don't judge people by who their parents are (and by you being the only one to post it, you must), but the Constitution does like our presidents to be born in this country.



And you're still a BIRTHER, I see. Your family must be so proud.

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songsmith wrote:Stumpy? Oh, Joe, that Reaaallllllly hurt my feelings!undercoverjoe wrote: Stumpy, I don't judge people by who their parents are (and by you being the only one to post it, you must), but the Constitution does like our presidents to be born in this country.Oh, I'm just mortally wounded!
Gosh, I'm in tears as I type this! Oh, the pain of your sardonic wit!!
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And you're still a BIRTHER, I see. Your family must be so proud.Walmart has tinfoil on sale this week, you probably need alot for helmets and such. Just trying to help a brother out.
Better than being a STATIST! You believe everything the state tells you to. State says this is real, you believe it, even when multiple forgery experts find 27 errors with the photocopy of a photoshopped document. Funny how you did question the state when your Messiah was not anointed. (remember WMD). Now with your Messiah in charge of ruining the economy of this country you believe everything they tell you to.
Please do not call me a brother, it gives me the creeps.

You go with that, brother. Bigfoot, the Easter Bunny and I all support you on that.
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