How about them Steelers?

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Sunday Sep 11, 2011

Well, nobody posted, so I thought I'd ask.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sunday Sep 11, 2011

I posted several times about my concern that they did nothing in the off season to shore up their 2 weak areas from last season. The O line and D backfield. Both looked horrible today. O line let Ben get sacked 4 times and hit even more than that. Did you see how many open receivers the Ravens had? Have other teams figured out our defense?

Naga · Post by **Naga** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

The "Stillers" were kinda "diStilled", weren't they?

UNEARTHA7XMatt · Post by **UNEARTHA7XMatt** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

They let the Raven win.

Seriously, the Ravens are always the toughest team for them. It doesn't matter anyhow, the Ravens won't go anywhere this year. I am more shocked oabout the Lions, Redskins and Bills win.

Larry · Post by **Larry** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail? Many people have moved out of the area and have taken their money with them. Often the Steelers are their only draw to come back to PA and spend some of that money. The better the Steelers do, the more they come, maybe even stopping in Altoona to eat, get gas, or stay.

I can understand if you've moved to PA from another area, but not if you're born and bred in Western PA. It's OK to like another team. I just don't get the sheer delight in failure. Maybe some people just crave the attention they get from hating the home team.

fahy34 · Post by **fahy34** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

Larry wrote:I can understand if you've moved to PA from another area, but not if you're born and bred in Western PA. It's OK to like another team. I just don't get the sheer delight in failure. Maybe some people just crave the attention they get from hating the home team.

I think a lot of the hatred comes from the fact that the majority of Steeler fans have a sense of entitlement and arrogance. It's pretty frustrating as a Steeler fan myself seeing all of the gloating from other fans when the Steelers lose but it's equally as appalling seeing the gloating when they win or the excuse making when they lose from Steeler fans.

I have friends who are Raiders fan, 49ers fans and so on. I always like to see those teams do well because I know how much it blows when the team you cheer for plays like shit. I enjoy trash talking as much as anyone but I'll be the first to admit when a team outplays the Steelers or makes a good play in a game. When it's over....it's over. You also won't see me gloating when your team loses a big game or when the Steelers win one.

That being said the Ravens looked damned good yesterday. They basically did the same thing the Packers did in the SB. Exploited out weaknesses and the 7 forced turnovers didn't help the cause either. They were ready to play and the Steelers sure as hell weren't. Hopefully they are able to bandage up the secondary and o-line for another year. Our secondary made Flacco look like f-in Joe Montana.

Oh well there's always next week.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

f.sciarrillo wrote:They let the Raven win.

Seriously, the Ravens are always the toughest team for them. It doesn't matter anyhow, the Ravens won't go anywhere this year. I am more shocked oabout the Lions, Redskins and Bills win.

The Ravens are for real, they have always had a great defense and now their offensive is improved. The also have the easiest schedule in the NFL this year based on last year's records.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

undercoverjoe wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:They let the Raven win.

Seriously, the Ravens are always the toughest team for them. It doesn't matter anyhow, the Ravens won't go anywhere this year. I am more shocked oabout the Lions, Redskins and Bills win.
The Ravens are for real, they have always had a great defense and now their offensive is improved. The also have the easiest schedule in the NFL this year based on last year's records.

They still won't go anywhere. To tell the truth, if this year is anything like the last post super bowl season for he Steelers; they won't go anywhere either. I would love to see the steelers go to the Bowl again this year, but I'm not expecting miracles from them. At least I have the Pats to fall back on.

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

Larry wrote:Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail?

Who posted anything about being happy to see them fail?

moxham123 · Post by **moxham123** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

I am a Steeler fan but sorry to say that Sunday's game was a real stinker for them. I hope they do better next week.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

When you play like they did on Sunday, you deserve to lose. It's a kick in the ass that they need. Hopefully something comes out of it.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Monday Sep 12, 2011

Larry wrote:Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail? Many people have moved out of the area and have taken their money with them. Often the Steelers are their only draw to come back to PA and spend some of that money. The better the Steelers do, the more they come, maybe even stopping in Altoona to eat, get gas, or stay.

I can understand if you've moved to PA from another area, but not if you're born and bred in Western PA. It's OK to like another team. I just don't get the sheer delight in failure. Maybe some people just crave the attention they get from hating the home team.

I personally just don't get the near religiosity people have over sports and the way their self-concept and sense of personal belonging is so interwined with a team of people who play a game for a living. I mean, I get it from a Max Weber sociological type of perspective, but "I don't get it," if you dig what I'm sayin'.

Larry · Post by **Larry** » Tuesday Sep 13, 2011

lonewolf wrote:
Larry wrote:Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail?
Who posted anything about being happy to see them fail?

It wasn't necessarily anything said in this thread that prompted my question, although UNEARTHA7XMatt looks pretty happy

Larry · Post by **Larry** » Tuesday Sep 13, 2011

bassist_25 wrote:
Larry wrote:Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail? Many people have moved out of the area and have taken their money with them. Often the Steelers are their only draw to come back to PA and spend some of that money. The better the Steelers do, the more they come, maybe even stopping in Altoona to eat, get gas, or stay.

I can understand if you've moved to PA from another area, but not if you're born and bred in Western PA. It's OK to like another team. I just don't get the sheer delight in failure. Maybe some people just crave the attention they get from hating the home team.
I personally just don't get the near religiosity people have over sports and the way their self-concept and sense of personal belonging is so interwined with a team of people who play a game for a living. I mean, I get it from a Max Weber sociological type of perspective, but "I don't get it," if you dig what I'm sayin'.

Aside from the fact that football is my favorite sport to play and watch, I do admit that I have deep connection to the Steelers beyond just the sport. Watching them takes me back to my childhood, when my uncle used to take me to games. The team was really good and the characters were so cool - like Lambert, Ham (from Johnstown and my Dad went to High School with him), Mean Joe, Webster, Swann, etc. Hell, they even had Myron Cope announcing. In addition, many of my relatives (father, grandfather, uncles) worked in the Steel mills, and they really identified with the way they felt the team was molded in the image of the blue collar worker by the Rooney family. Whether that was rational for them didn't really matter to me as an eight year old. Then, my uncle who had the season tickets died from ALS at 43 years old. Now the team probably also represents a part of my memory for him.

I think older teams like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, NY, Chicago, etc have fanbases loaded with stories like this. So, it's not always that fans are trying to feel self importance by identifying with a sports team. Sometimes they just feel like the team is a part of them.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Tuesday Sep 13, 2011

bassist_25 wrote:
Larry wrote:Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail? Many people have moved out of the area and have taken their money with them. Often the Steelers are their only draw to come back to PA and spend some of that money. The better the Steelers do, the more they come, maybe even stopping in Altoona to eat, get gas, or stay.

I can understand if you've moved to PA from another area, but not if you're born and bred in Western PA. It's OK to like another team. I just don't get the sheer delight in failure. Maybe some people just crave the attention they get from hating the home team.
I personally just don't get the near religiosity people have over sports and the way their self-concept and sense of personal belonging is so interwined with a team of people who play a game for a living. I mean, I get it from a Max Weber sociological type of perspective, but "I don't get it," if you dig what I'm sayin'.

Well Paul, it's a passion sport and people become a part of it. You win with the team and feel ups, you lose and you feel the downs. If you aren't a sports fan, you wouldn't understand. It's like music to some, how you can get connected with a certain group and you feel it emotionally, and physically. It's also something people look forward to, like myself. I really can't get into other sports, so I understand where you come from. If we all lived looking at everything from a sociological theory perspective, life would be a bit boring methinks.

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Tuesday Sep 13, 2011

OK I'm born and raised in Western PA and I'm ecstatic to see them fall flat. I'm a die-hard BEARS fan....always have been....I'm also a die-hard Squeelers hater....always have been. That's just how it is and how it will always be. So yes I took GREAT pleasure in watchin' both my team win and the local favorite look like a Pop Warner squad. And let's be honest it takes people like me to make the sport interesting. If EVERYONE routs for the same team what fun is that?

And bassist how exactly do you explain 'passion' any better than Rob did. When your team wins you feel that excitement. When they lose you feel that disappointment. Likewise the same can be said about art, and music, and motorcycles.....or anything of the sort. Some people attach themselves to things like that, that create a reaction, an emotion. Plus some of us either have history associated with that team....or are former players that just love the sport so much it didn't end when the pads came off.

With that said.....GO BEARS!!!!!!

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Tuesday Sep 13, 2011

Thanks for the insight guys, but I think you're missing my point a little bit. I'm not saying that I don't understand having passion or rooting for your favorite team. I'm saying that, minus the metaphysical aspect, I see a lot of parallels between religious fantaticism and sports fantaticism. I'm talking about how many people have their self-concepts wrapped up in sports and are willing to go to blows or riot over teams. Music's actually not a good reference point for me, because I feel the same about musical fantaticism and having one's self-concept wrapped up in the music they listen to.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

That's because it's the same thing, Paul. There are a lot of parallels between how people feel about their team, and how people feel about God.

Merge · Post by **Merge** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

Personally, I took great pleasure in watching Hines Ward get planted.

Naga · Post by **Naga** » Thursday Sep 15, 2011

As do I. I wasn't born in this area, so I'm not a Steelers fanatic. Quite contrarily, living here has made them one of those teams I'll root against no matter who they're playing. Moreover, the Ravens are "my team" (as well as the Cowboys and 9ers, in a slightly lesser fashion). You do the math

I'm a Ravens fan + I'm an anti-Steelers fan = Me being happy about the results of the game

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Thursday Sep 15, 2011

When Tomlin was asked to find something good about the last game, he said Sepulveda punted pretty well. He was honest, that was the only highlight.

UNEARTHA7XMatt · Post by **UNEARTHA7XMatt** » Friday Sep 16, 2011

bassist_25 wrote:
Larry wrote:Why would anyone from Western PA be happy to see the Steelers fail? Many people have moved out of the area and have taken their money with them. Often the Steelers are their only draw to come back to PA and spend some of that money. The better the Steelers do, the more they come, maybe even stopping in Altoona to eat, get gas, or stay.

I can understand if you've moved to PA from another area, but not if you're born and bred in Western PA. It's OK to like another team. I just don't get the sheer delight in failure. Maybe some people just crave the attention they get from hating the home team.
I personally just don't get the near religiosity people have over sports and the way their self-concept and sense of personal belonging is so interwined with a team of people who play a game for a living. I mean, I get it from a Max Weber sociological type of perspective, but "I don't get it," if you dig what I'm sayin'.

autumnsky · Post by **autumnsky** » Friday Sep 16, 2011

Funny, but when "dem Stillers" are doing great it's "We, us, we're, our Steelers", but when they suck, it's "Those, them, they"!
Just an observance! GO PENN STATE!!!

UNEARTHA7XMatt · Post by **UNEARTHA7XMatt** » Friday Sep 16, 2011

Ive been a die hard 49ers fan for as long as I could walk. Im used to the highest of highs to the lowest of lows when it comes to my team. With that being said, I was born and raised right here in central pa and I cant remember ever liking the steelers. My fathers a Vikings Fan. My moms a Buccaneers fan and my sister is a Colts fan. I feel the steelers have some great players and a great coach but I just cant bring myself to Cheer for them.