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[Hawk]

Bill, I would swear that you are a writer for MSNBC.

Hey, the Obamination himself said that if he could not get the economy fixed in 3 years, he would be a one term president. Do you agree?

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/obama-2009- ... roposition

I didn't check out the link. Do people have the right to change their minds? Remember how strongly you supported the Patriot Act ? You changed your mind ( you now agree with me). Now should I only use quotes of what you said on the subject or should I accept what you say now ?

Well, do you agree with the Obamination himself? He said he should be a 1 term president if he does not fix the economy in 3 years.

Who are you talking about changing minds, you or Obamination? Of course he lies, he lied then and he lies now. So there is no way he will ever hold himself to what he actually said. Do you?

Nice answers to my questions. I can ignore you too.

[onegunguitar]

One term with Obama in office is too much.

[Hawk]

It's you adding NOTHING...

Try making points of stupid things he says. That would be subject to discussion.

Like this:

I was listening to Rush Limbaugh a few weeks ago. (I listen to him nearly every day, but this one just sticks out in my mind). He was talking to a caller. The caller made a comment about how much money BP donated to Obama's presidential campaign.

Rush went off on one of his usual tangents while I laughed aloud as he tried to remove his foot from hi mouth (a common experience on his show). He used the BP donation to explain how Obama could not be trusted and how UNloyal he was. Obama made BP pay SO MUCH MONEY for the BP oil spill after BP gave him all that money for his candidacy ! Obama turned on BP after they helped him with all that money.

Do any of you see an obvious flaw in this line of reasoning ? Like Obama can't be bought ? Does Rush think Presidents should be loyal to the Big Money People ? I think he does.

Trying to get his foot out of his mouth, he managed to blame Obama for high gas prices because of what he did to BP. Repeating that he just proved that Obama has no morals because he can't be trusted (according to Limbaugh morals ).

Actually, Bill, that makes me laugh. BP did give their largest campaign contribution in company history to Obama. They in turn got a safety award from him. You remember; it is was on the same rig that blew up, which in turn caused the worst disaster, ever, in the gulf. If you think about it, BP was trying to buy him. Of course we all know what their record is, and how they operate. I don't think Obama could be bought. He does whatever is good for him at the time he does it. He will love you and be on your side one minute, and then the next he will be putting you under the bus. Then name a politician who doesn't do that.

[edit] On the subject of Keith Olbermann, you might be happy to know that I spoke with him last night and told him good luck on his new show. He told me thank you. [/edit]

Money donated to Obama in 2008 election was entirely from BP employees, not the corporation; employees donated about $70,000 -- not $750 million. Contrary to Kilmeade's claim, $750 million is reportedly the amount Obama raised overall during the 2008 campaign, not what he received from BP. Moreover, the BP-linked donations came exclusively from BP employees -- not the corporation itself. A spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics confirmed that "the $71,051 that Obama received during the 2008 election cycle was entirely from BP employees. ... Obama did not accept contributions from political action committees, so none of this money is from BP's PAC."

This amounted to .1% of Obama's election donations. READ: "did not accept money from political Action Committees.

If you notice, the rig only had one minor infraction due to the relationship of regulators and the oil companies, under your dear President Bush. I guess Obama was supposed to read their minds to see that the regulators were in the pockets of Big Oil ?


Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

The inspection gaps are the latest in a series of questions raised about the agency's oversight of the oil drilling industry. Members of Congress and President Barack Obama have criticized what they call the cozy relationship between regulators and oil companies and vowed to reform MMS, which both regulates the industry and collects billions in royalties from it.

[slackin@dabass]

One term with Obama in office is too much.

Not to redistribute wealth to welfare fraud committing drug abusers. Sorry, "alleged" drug abusers.

[f.sciarrillo]

Money donated to Obama in 2008 election was entirely from BP employees, not the corporation; employees donated about $70,000 -- not $750 million. Contrary to Kilmeade's claim, $750 million is reportedly the amount Obama raised overall during the 2008 campaign, not what he received from BP. Moreover, the BP-linked donations came exclusively from BP employees -- not the corporation itself. A spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics confirmed that "the $71,051 that Obama received during the 2008 election cycle was entirely from BP employees. ... Obama did not accept contributions from political action committees, so none of this money is from BP's PAC."

This amounted to .1% of Obama's election donations. READ: "did not accept money from political Action Committees.

How many of those "Employees" do you think will donate to his 2012 campaign? Either way you look at it, he was the recipient of the largest campaign contributions from BP, whether it was from the employees, or corporate. I didn't hear what kilmeade said, that is the first I heard of him saying anything about it. Then, I haven't watched Fox News in a while.

[Hawk]

Money donated to Obama in 2008 election was entirely from BP employees, not the corporation; employees donated about $70,000 -- not $750 million. Contrary to Kilmeade's claim, $750 million is reportedly the amount Obama raised overall during the 2008 campaign, not what he received from BP. Moreover, the BP-linked donations came exclusively from BP employees -- not the corporation itself. A spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics confirmed that "the $71,051 that Obama received during the 2008 election cycle was entirely from BP employees. ... Obama did not accept contributions from political action committees, so none of this money is from BP's PAC."

This amounted to .1% of Obama's election donations. READ: "did not accept money from political Action Committees.

How many of those "Employees" do you think will donate to his 2012 campaign? Either way you look at it, he was the recipient of the largest campaign contributions from BP, whether it was from the employees, or corporate. I didn't hear what kilmeade said, that is the first I heard of him saying anything about it. Then, I haven't watched Fox News in a while.

I can't find anywhere that the $72,000 was their highest in their history. Can you show me where to find that ?


If you notice, the rig only had one minor infraction due to the relationship of regulators and the oil companies, under your dear President Bush. I guess Obama was supposed to read their minds to see that the regulators were in the pockets of Big Oil ?


Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

The inspection gaps are the latest in a series of questions raised about the agency's oversight of the oil drilling industry. Members of Congress and President Barack Obama have criticized what they call the cozy relationship between regulators and oil companies and vowed to reform MMS, which both regulates the industry and collects billions in royalties from it.

[f.sciarrillo]

I can't find anywhere that the $72,000 was their highest in their history. Can you show me where to find that ?.

I heard it mentioned on CNN. I will try and find something on their site about it.

[Hawk]

I can't find anywhere that the $72,000 was their highest in their history. Can you show me where to find that ?.

I heard it mentioned on CNN. I will try and find something on their site about it.

And your opinion on this ?
If you notice, the rig only had one minor infraction due to the relationship of regulators and the oil companies, under your dear President Bush. I guess Obama was supposed to read their minds to see that the regulators were in the pockets of Big Oil ?


Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

The inspection gaps are the latest in a series of questions raised about the agency's oversight of the oil drilling industry. Members of Congress and President Barack Obama have criticized what they call the cozy relationship between regulators and oil companies and vowed to reform MMS, which both regulates the industry and collects billions in royalties from it.

[f.sciarrillo]

And your opinion on this ?
If you notice, the rig only had one minor infraction due to the relationship of regulators and the oil companies, under your dear President Bush. I guess Obama was supposed to read their minds to see that the regulators were in the pockets of Big Oil ?


Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

The inspection gaps are the latest in a series of questions raised about the agency's oversight of the oil drilling industry. Members of Congress and President Barack Obama have criticized what they call the cozy relationship between regulators and oil companies and vowed to reform MMS, which both regulates the industry and collects billions in royalties from it.

http://www.ap.org/oil_spill/FEDinsp_61010.html

I don't agree with the laxing of it. There should have been more done. I can't explain why they were only getting one inspection a month. I would like to find out, though. I'm not going to place blame on the presidents though. If anything, I would think that BP was maybe paying off inspectors. Which wouldn't surprise me.

[Hawk]

One term with Obama in office is too much.

Not to redistribute wealth to welfare fraud committing drug abusers. Sorry, "alleged" drug abusers.

What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ?

Do you think Obama is the first president to use taxes to help the less fortunate ?

Do you think Obama likes welfare fraud ? Was there welfare fraud under any other president that you used for a reason to not re-elect him. Did you vote against George Bush because there was welfare fraud ?

Go ahead...

[Hawk]

And your opinion on this ?
If you notice, the rig only had one minor infraction due to the relationship of regulators and the oil companies, under your dear President Bush. I guess Obama was supposed to read their minds to see that the regulators were in the pockets of Big Oil ?


Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

The inspection gaps are the latest in a series of questions raised about the agency's oversight of the oil drilling industry. Members of Congress and President Barack Obama have criticized what they call the cozy relationship between regulators and oil companies and vowed to reform MMS, which both regulates the industry and collects billions in royalties from it.

http://www.ap.org/oil_spill/FEDinsp_61010.html

I don't agree with the laxing of it. There should have been more done. I can't explain why they were only getting one inspection a month. I would like to find out, though. I'm not going to place blame on the presidents though. If anything, I would think that BP was maybe paying off inspectors. Which wouldn't surprise me.

Agreed. Obama's award was based on those "paid for by BP" regulators. There was no way he could have known what was going on at that time.

[lonewolf]

One term with Obama in office is too much.

Not to redistribute wealth to welfare fraud committing drug abusers. Sorry, "alleged" drug abusers.

What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ?

Do you think Obama is the first president to use taxes to help the less fortunate ?

Do you think Obama likes welfare fraud ? Was there welfare fraud under any other president that you used for a reason to not re-elect him. Did you vote against George Bush because there was welfare fraud ?

Go ahead...

That was all in the domain of the states and counties until the federal government usurped their rights & responsibilities.

Have you ever looked at a state constitution? You will find all kinds of things specified in a state constitution that you will never find in the US Constitution. That doesn't matter to the federal government as they have usurped nearly all the states' rights & responsibilities.

All they had to do was take the Supreme Court hostage.

[Banned]

I didn't check out the link. Do people have the right to change their minds? Remember how strongly you supported the Patriot Act ? You changed your mind ( you now agree with me). Now should I only use quotes of what you said on the subject or should I accept what you say now ?

Well, do you agree with the Obamination himself? He said he should be a 1 term president if he does not fix the economy in 3 years.

Who are you talking about changing minds, you or Obamination? Of course he lies, he lied then and he lies now. So there is no way he will ever hold himself to what he actually said. Do you?

Nice answers to my questions. I can ignore you too.

I did ask you first Bill. Did you know that Louis Farrakhan called the Obamination an assassin and a murderer. Do you agree with that too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqkc0xtL ... r_embedded

[Hawk]

Not to redistribute wealth to welfare fraud committing drug abusers. Sorry, "alleged" drug abusers.

What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ?

Do you think Obama is the first president to use taxes to help the less fortunate ?

Do you think Obama likes welfare fraud ? Was there welfare fraud under any other president that you used for a reason to not re-elect him. Did you vote against George Bush because there was welfare fraud ?

Go ahead...

That was all in the domain of the states and counties until the federal government usurped their rights & responsibilities.

Have you ever looked at a state constitution? You will find all kinds of things specified in a state constitution that you will never find in the US Constitution. That doesn't matter to the federal government as they have usurped nearly all the states' rights & responsibilities.

All they had to do was take the Supreme Court hostage.

Read my post about Madison being faced with reality.

BTW, do you speak for Frank AND slackin@dabass too ? How many usernames do you have ?

[Banned]

Bill said:

"What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ? "

Could these things be done by the people and not by an oppressive government? Before central government decided to be the all encompassing nanny, these things were handled by churches, civic and societal groups and even government at the local level.

Do you think central government has done a good job? Is poverty ended? Is drug use ended? Is racism ended?

Government has failed at all these problems. But you keep wanting another government answer when history demonstrates failure after failure.

Would you be willing to let society try it again, without the oppressive government control?

[Hawk]

Bill said:

"What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ? "

Could these things be done by the people and not by an oppressive government? Before central government decided to be the all encompassing nanny, these things were handled by churches, civic and societal groups and even government at the local level.

Do you think central government has done a good job? Is poverty ended? Is drug use ended? Is racism ended?

Government has failed at all these problems. But you keep wanting another government answer when history demonstrates failure after failure.

Would you be willing to let society try it again, without the oppressive government control?

Charities handled it very poorly. Search for yourself.

I don't see many people dieing from starvation, so yes, the system works. I do see people dieing because of a inability to afford a proper health insurance, would you like to make a donation since you see that as a viable way to solve the problem?

Yes, drug addiction has decreased, so yes again, the system is working.

Racism as you repeatedly tell me is a state of mind, no one can help.

Has the federal government helped control race discrimination ? Yes, the system is working.

Is the system perfect. No. Does it help ? Damn right it does.

[Banned]

would you like to make a donation since you see that as a viable way to solve the problem?

Yes! Get your oppressive totalitarian government go give my stolen money back, and I would gladly donate to worthy causes.

If we all were able to keep 90% to 95% of our own money, there would be a lot available for charitable causes.

If you think government is doing such a good job, why are there drug addicts, suicides, child abuse, crime, murder and poverty? Government spends trillions on these problems and they still exist. Your government is not working Bill.

Our roads and bridges are falling apart. Where will we get the money for this?

This government has promised over $60 TRILLION of unfunded entitlements of Medicare and Social Security. How is your government going to pay for it all Bill?

Taxing the rich might give a few billions, the future unfunded entitlements add up to and TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS.

Government is broke Bill, and promised Trillions that is does not have.

[Hawk]

would you like to make a donation since you see that as a viable way to solve the problem?

Yes! Get your oppressive totalitarian government go give my stolen money back, and I would gladly donate to worthy causes.

If we all were able to keep 90% to 95% of our own money, there would be a lot available for charitable causes.

If you think government is doing such a good job, why are there drug addicts, suicides, child abuse, crime, murder and poverty? Government spends trillions on these problems and they still exist. Your government is not working Bill.

Our roads and bridges are falling apart. Where will we get the money for this?

This government has promised over $60 TRILLION of unfunded entitlements of Medicare and Social Security. How is your government going to pay for it all Bill?

Taxing the rich might give a few billions, the future unfunded entitlements add up to and TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS.

Government is broke Bill, and promised Trillions that is does not have.

The government does not control anyone as you prove. That's why we have murders, child abuse, crime etc. etc.

Has race discrimination decreased with federal government help ?

[slackin@dabass]

One term with Obama in office is too much.

Not to redistribute wealth to welfare fraud committing drug abusers. Sorry, "alleged" drug abusers.

What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ?

Do you think Obama is the first president to use taxes to help the less fortunate ?

Do you think Obama likes welfare fraud ? Was there welfare fraud under any other president that you used for a reason to not re-elect him. Did you vote against George Bush because there was welfare fraud ?

Go ahead...

The problem i have is that i work hard for what i have. I think others should do the same. Im not cold hearted enough to say the disabled should die, but i do think that if enough of these "feel good" hollywood actors really gave two shits about us "common folk" that the disabled would have something donated to them. And i am not against the government HELPING them. See the previous sentence about actors donating a couple mil. And no obama isnt the first pres to use tax money to redistribute to the "tired poor and weakend masses" i think fdr did a fine job too. I dont know if obama likes fraud or not. Im sure if he had a problem with welfare fraud he'd try to do something about it. I never voted for bush, bill. Im quite against oil wars and interfearing in international affairs. Im quite against large federal government and more for letting the states do what theyre supposed to. I mean if the fed is the be all end all, whats the point of even having states? See im getting really tired of all these assholes in washington. Obama is pres and that makes him an easy target being that he kinda is "the boss" of it all. Not like bruce springstenn, but more like the ceo of bp when that shit went down in the gulf. The media treated that guy like he was pushing the "cause a giant spill" button. But back on topic i just want people that are commiting fraud off welfare regardless of how many there are. Bottom line is: if you can buy drugs you can work a day job. And i dont mean drugs a doctor prescribes you. I mean class 1 narcotics. So if your buying meth, heroin, weed, coke, pcp, etc. Etc. Then "get off the dole" and get a fucking job.

[Hawk]

Not to redistribute wealth to welfare fraud committing drug abusers. Sorry, "alleged" drug abusers.

What is this "redistribution of wealth" problem you have. Are you suggesting that the disabled be left to die ? Are you suggesting that people will give freely to take care of them out of the goodness of their hearts ? Are you against society taking care of them ?

Do you think Obama is the first president to use taxes to help the less fortunate ?

Do you think Obama likes welfare fraud ? Was there welfare fraud under any other president that you used for a reason to not re-elect him. Did you vote against George Bush because there was welfare fraud ?

Go ahead...

The problem i have is that i work hard for what i have. I think others should do the same. Im not cold hearted enough to say the disabled should die, but i do think that if enough of these "feel good" hollywood actors really gave two shits about us "common folk" that the disabled would have something donated to them. And i am not against the government HELPING them. See the previous sentence about actors donating a couple mil. And no obama isnt the first pres to use tax money to redistribute to the "tired poor and weakend masses" i think fdr did a fine job too. I dont know if obama likes fraud or not. Im sure if he had a problem with welfare fraud he'd try to do something about it. I never voted for bush, bill. Im quite against oil wars and interfearing in international affairs. Im quite against large federal government and more for letting the states do what theyre supposed to. I mean if the fed is the be all end all, whats the point of even having states? See im getting really tired of all these assholes in washington. Obama is pres and that makes him an easy target being that he kinda is "the boss" of it all. Not like bruce springstenn, but more like the ceo of bp when that shit went down in the gulf. The media treated that guy like he was pushing the "cause a giant spill" button. But back on topic i just want people that are commiting fraud off welfare regardless of how many there are. Bottom line is: if you can buy drugs you can work a day job. And i dont mean drugs a doctor prescribes you. I mean class 1 narcotics. So if your buying meth, heroin, weed, coke, pcp, etc. Etc. Then "get off the dole" and get a fucking job.

I agree with some of what you say. I hate welfare fraud as well. I'm afraid the cost of rooting out the frauds might exceed the cost of the frauds.

I also consider that there are likely some truly disabled that take hard drugs. What do you do with them ?

I think if you researched, you'd see the Hollywood actor types already donate to quite a few humanitarian projects.

[Banned]

would you like to make a donation since you see that as a viable way to solve the problem?

Yes! Get your oppressive totalitarian government go give my stolen money back, and I would gladly donate to worthy causes.

If we all were able to keep 90% to 95% of our own money, there would be a lot available for charitable causes.

If you think government is doing such a good job, why are there drug addicts, suicides, child abuse, crime, murder and poverty? Government spends trillions on these problems and they still exist. Your government is not working Bill.

Our roads and bridges are falling apart. Where will we get the money for this?

This government has promised over $60 TRILLION of unfunded entitlements of Medicare and Social Security. How is your government going to pay for it all Bill?

Taxing the rich might give a few billions, the future unfunded entitlements add up to and TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS.

Government is broke Bill, and promised Trillions that is does not have.

The government does not control anyone as you prove. That's why we have murders, child abuse, crime etc. etc.

Has race discrimination decreased with federal government help ?

If government does not control anyone, why does it keep trying and trying and trying????? Why does it try to control us, why do you support this failed effort, post after post?

Second question: no.

[Hawk]

Yes! Get your oppressive totalitarian government go give my stolen money back, and I would gladly donate to worthy causes.

If we all were able to keep 90% to 95% of our own money, there would be a lot available for charitable causes.

If you think government is doing such a good job, why are there drug addicts, suicides, child abuse, crime, murder and poverty? Government spends trillions on these problems and they still exist. Your government is not working Bill.

Our roads and bridges are falling apart. Where will we get the money for this?

This government has promised over $60 TRILLION of unfunded entitlements of Medicare and Social Security. How is your government going to pay for it all Bill?

Taxing the rich might give a few billions, the future unfunded entitlements add up to and TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS.

Government is broke Bill, and promised Trillions that is does not have.

The government does not control anyone as you prove. That's why we have murders, child abuse, crime etc. etc.

Has race discrimination decreased with federal government help ?

If government does not control anyone, why does it keep trying and trying and trying????? Why does it try to control us, why do you support this failed effort, post after post?

Second question: no.

Joe, do you hear voices trying to control you ? There is help for that. Would you like to list for my sake, how they "control" you / us ?

Really, do you know of some restaurants open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? Do you know of some schools that are open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? How about expanding your "No" answer to include specifics ?

[Banned]

Joe, do you hear voices trying to control you ? There is help for that. Would you like to list for my sake, how they "control" you / us ?

Really, do you know of some restaurants open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? Do you know of some schools that are open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? How about expanding your "No" answer to include specifics ?

How they control us? Lets start with local, state, and federal taxes. Gas taxes, sales taxes, licenses for your car, businesses, dog, cat, property taxes, school taxes, residence taxes, inheritance taxes..........

Laws: to control drugs, guns, hunting, driving, eating, music too loud, fishing, spreading manure on your own farm, and even now spanking your children.

When the government controls you at the point of a gun using laws and taxes, you are controlled. You might love everything I mentioned, but liberty loving people do not.

[Hawk]

Joe, do you hear voices trying to control you ? There is help for that. Would you like to list for my sake, how they "control" you / us ?

Really, do you know of some restaurants open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? Do you know of some schools that are open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? How about expanding your "No" answer to include specifics ?

How they control us? Lets start with local, state, and federal taxes. Gas taxes, sales taxes, licenses for your car, businesses, dog, cat, property taxes, school taxes, residence taxes, inheritance taxes..........

Laws: to control drugs, guns, hunting, driving, eating, music too loud, fishing, spreading manure on your own farm, and even now spanking your children.

When the government controls you at the point of a gun using laws and taxes, you are controlled. You might love everything I mentioned, but liberty loving people do not.

I don't see taxes as control over what I do. I understand you do.

Laws to control drugs: Good
Laws to control guns: Bad, but as far as I know you are still allowed to own them. Setting up a private militia to overtake government: Bad. Laws to prevent that: Good

Hunting Laws: I don't hunt so I don't know the laws, sorry. Enlighten me.

Driving is a privilege, not a right. Perhaps you want to remove all traffic signals ? I don't know, what bothers you about driving laws ?

Eating Laws ? As far as I know, I can eat whatever I want. You can't ?

Music too loud laws. If you lived in an apartment with the upstairs resident playing his 2 million watt mega surround system at 1:00am, you might want a law to prevent him from doing that.

Fishing ? I don't fish . Enlighten me.

Laws against spanking children. Bad.

Manure on farms ? i don't know what the laws are, but I sure hope there are restrictions to keep out poisons, bacteria etc..

AGAIN: Really, do you know of some restaurants open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? Do you know of some schools that are open to the general public that don't allow certain races ? How about expanding your "No" answer to include specifics ?

BTW founding fatrher George Washington was the first to use guns to make sure taxes were paid. You love the founding fathers right ?

[Jasaoke]

I think that Hawk and Undercoverjoe should start a political call-in show after the Homegrown Rocker. We can call it "Guv'ment Blues".