Obama tells Israel to f#ck off.....

[shredder138]

I think Dave Mustaine had it figured out back in 1990:
Holy Wars.....

Brother will kill brother
Spilling blood across the land
Killing for religion
Something I don't understand

Fools like me, who cross the sea
And come to foreign lands
Ask the sheep, for their beliefs
Do you kill on God's command?

A country that's divided
Surely will not stand
My past erased, no more disgrace
No foolish naive stand

The end is near, it's crystal clear
Part of the master plan
Don't look now to Israel
It might be your homeland

Holy wars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d4ui9q7eDM

Great song

Great album and great song! You guys should totally do this tune.

[Banned]

I want all corporate subsidies ended. Tout suite. Post haste. Schnell. I also want corporate tax rates lowered. We should not have the second highest tax rates on corporations in the world. Cut them in half, cut capital gains taxes in half. Unemployment problem over.

There has not been a free market since the 1790's when George Washington attacked whiskey distillers, right here in Western Pa.

There is also no free trade. We need a president with some balls who will match tariff for tariff with all our trade partners.

[Banned]

poor, whom you claim don't pay any taxes anyway).

Not only do the bottom 47% of wage earners pay NO federal taxes, many of them get direct welfare in the form of the Earned Income Tax Credit, which I believe you once posted you received.

Corporations do everything to increase their profits. That is their function. They do not exist to give jobs, the jobs happen because they exist to make profits.

[f.sciarrillo]

Tim Pawlenty announced, today, that he is running for Pres. I am really anxious to see how this turns out.


All seriousness, I don't think Obama is doing that bad of a job. I mean, nothing he passed has affected me yet, well that is until they start forcing me to pay for obamacare, or my taxes go up. In fact, the only things that he has done that I don't like are:

• Passed Obamacare, which he is giving exemption to him and buddies who helped him get elected. If it is so good, why are so many people filing for an exemption, and why is he exempt?
• Consistently kicks Israel in the teeth
• Took out national day of prayer in the white house
• Stopped any drilling for oil
• Hasn't stopped, or reversed, one policy that Bush started.
• Sued Arizona for upholding a federal law.
• Apologized to countries who hate us.
• Consistently gives money to countries who hate us. He should be worrying about us first.
• Bailed out banks who caused the economic crysis.
• Spent more money than a drunken sailor in a strip club.

There are more but I can't think of them right now. Feel free to ponder that for a while.

Also, like I said, I agree with a max tax rate of 39%, for everyone. I still think the fair tax act should pass. But if it doesn't, I refuse to pay more than what I mentioned above.

[Hawk]

Tim Pawlenty announced, today, that he is running for Pres. I am really anxious to see how this turns out.


All seriousness, I don't think Obama is doing that bad of a job. I mean, nothing he passed has affected me yet, well that is until they start forcing me to pay for obamacare, or my taxes go up. In fact, the only things that he has done that I don't like are:

• Passed Obamacare, which he is giving exemption to him and buddies who helped him get elected. If it is so good, why are so many people filing for an exemption, and why is he exempt?
• Consistently kicks Israel in the teeth
• Took out national day of prayer in the white house
• Stopped any drilling for oil
• Hasn't stopped, or reversed, one policy that Bush started.
• Sued Arizona for upholding a federal law.
• Apologized to countries who hate us.
• Consistently gives money to countries who hate us. He should be worrying about us first.
• Bailed out banks who caused the economic crysis.
• Spent more money than a drunken sailor in a strip club.

There are more but I can't think of them right now. Feel free to ponder that for a while.

Also, like I said, I agree with a max tax rate of 39%, for everyone. I still think the fair tax act should pass. But if it doesn't, I refuse to pay more than what I mentioned above.

I thought you were done with politics on Rockpage ?

[f.sciarrillo]

Tim Pawlenty announced, today, that he is running for Pres. I am really anxious to see how this turns out.


All seriousness, I don't think Obama is doing that bad of a job. I mean, nothing he passed has affected me yet, well that is until they start forcing me to pay for obamacare, or my taxes go up. In fact, the only things that he has done that I don't like are:

• Passed Obamacare, which he is giving exemption to him and buddies who helped him get elected. If it is so good, why are so many people filing for an exemption, and why is he exempt?
• Consistently kicks Israel in the teeth
• Took out national day of prayer in the white house
• Stopped any drilling for oil
• Hasn't stopped, or reversed, one policy that Bush started.
• Sued Arizona for upholding a federal law.
• Apologized to countries who hate us.
• Consistently gives money to countries who hate us. He should be worrying about us first.
• Bailed out banks who caused the economic crysis.
• Spent more money than a drunken sailor in a strip club.

There are more but I can't think of them right now. Feel free to ponder that for a while.

Also, like I said, I agree with a max tax rate of 39%, for everyone. I still think the fair tax act should pass. But if it doesn't, I refuse to pay more than what I mentioned above.

I thought you were done with politics on Rockpage ?

I thought that would make you happy. I gave obama a compliment. I'm not completely done, just not posting it as much. I won't be doing anymore of the ranting stupid posts I used to make on it. I know you still think I am politically stupid, no need to say it.

[Hawk]

Tim Pawlenty announced, today, that he is running for Pres. I am really anxious to see how this turns out.


All seriousness, I don't think Obama is doing that bad of a job. I mean, nothing he passed has affected me yet, well that is until they start forcing me to pay for obamacare, or my taxes go up. In fact, the only things that he has done that I don't like are:

• Passed Obamacare, which he is giving exemption to him and buddies who helped him get elected. If it is so good, why are so many people filing for an exemption, and why is he exempt?
• Consistently kicks Israel in the teeth
• Took out national day of prayer in the white house
• Stopped any drilling for oil
• Hasn't stopped, or reversed, one policy that Bush started.
• Sued Arizona for upholding a federal law.
• Apologized to countries who hate us.
• Consistently gives money to countries who hate us. He should be worrying about us first.
• Bailed out banks who caused the economic crysis.
• Spent more money than a drunken sailor in a strip club.

There are more but I can't think of them right now. Feel free to ponder that for a while.

Also, like I said, I agree with a max tax rate of 39%, for everyone. I still think the fair tax act should pass. But if it doesn't, I refuse to pay more than what I mentioned above.

I thought you were done with politics on Rockpage ?

I thought that would make you happy. I gave obama a compliment. I'm not completely done, just not posting it as much. I won't be doing anymore of the ranting stupid posts I used to make on it. I know you still think I am politically stupid, no need to say it.

suffice it to say much of what you posted is wrong. Oil production is high. There is deep water drilling in the Gulf. I love prayer but it is unconstitutional to be recognised by the white house unless every religion is involved. That would include witches and satanists.
Arizona was breaking the law not supporting it. Damn, we've been over this.

You would have preferred that he left the banks fail and everyone loose there savings ? Stupid...

Spent a ton of money trying to save American economy from all the destruction GW caused.

I can go on Frank...

[f.sciarrillo]

suffice it to say much of what you posted is wrong. Oil production is high. There is deep water drilling in the Gulf. I love prayer but it is unconstitutional to be recognised by the white house unless every religion is involved. That would include witches and satanists.
Arizona was breaking the law not supporting it. Damn, we've been over this.

You would have preferred that he left the banks fail and everyone loose there savings ? Stupid...

Spent a ton of money trying to save American economy from all the destruction GW caused.

I can go on Frank...

The only destruction I see Bush as doing is spending money trying to keep this country safe. What did he do? Lower taxes that caused it? I don't think so. Most of his spending was for defense, the dems want to cut defense. But yet they want to spend more else where. Defense is an important part of our security and should be funded. Also, if you look, there was a dem congress and senate in power at the time. So the blame is on them as much as it is on Bush. I know you are probably thinking about Iraq, and I think that also. But once we were there, there was really no turning back. I still think we should have handled that a different way.

Let me add that I didn't agree with everything that Bush did, there are some things that he did that pissed me off. Iraq was one of them.

The banks should have failed yes, but I never thought of the accounts of the innocent. I will think more about that aspect of it. I may end up changing my mind.

I won't get into Arizona with you again. All we can do there is agree to disagree.

Prayer is good, I like it myself. But what do you say when he takes national day of prayer out, then turns around and celebrates ramadan? I know other Presidents recognized ramadan, but they also recognized national day of prayer. I'm not saying that he is a muslim, his recent actions have proven, to me, that he isn't one. It just seems like he is trying to cater to one and not another.

[Hawk]

suffice it to say much of what you posted is wrong. Oil production is high. There is deep water drilling in the Gulf. I love prayer but it is unconstitutional to be recognised by the white house unless every religion is involved. That would include witches and satanists.
Arizona was breaking the law not supporting it. Damn, we've been over this.

You would have preferred that he left the banks fail and everyone loose there savings ? Stupid...

Spent a ton of money trying to save American economy from all the destruction GW caused.

I can go on Frank...

The only destruction I see Bush as doing is spending money trying to keep this country safe. What did he do? Lower taxes that caused it? I don't think so. Most of his spending was for defense, the dems want to cut defense. But yet they want to spend more else where. Defense is an important part of our security and should be funded. Also, if you look, there was a dem congress and senate in power at the time. So the blame is on them as much as it is on Bush. I know you are probably thinking about Iraq, and I think that also. But once we were there, there was really no turning back. I still think we should have handled that a different way.

Let me add that I didn't agree with everything that Bush did, there are some things that he did that pissed me off. Iraq was one of them.

The banks should have failed yes, but I never thought of the accounts of the innocent. I will think more about that aspect of it. I may end up changing my mind.

I won't get into Arizona with you again. All we can do there is agree to disagree.

Prayer is good, I like it myself. But what do you say when he takes national day of prayer out, then turns around and celebrates ramadan? I know other Presidents recognized ramadan, but they also recognized national day of prayer. I'm not saying that he is a muslim, his recent actions have proven, to me, that he isn't one. It just seems like he is trying to cater to one and not another.

We were in the grip of a depression when Bush was ending his presidency, doubled the national debt (most of which was NOT the Iraq war) and you don't think he did any thing wrong for the economy ? You are the only one.

Even Republicans denounce and distance themselves from him to the point that they focus on calling themselve conservatives instesd of Republicans. He didn't even count the money used for the Iraq war as part of the debt, it was a government account all by itself. It was Obama that took that seperate account and added it to the debt. Bush was perhaps the most liberal spender in history with six years of a Republican controled congress. ANd he has veto power over a democratic congress if he wanted to control the spending.

[Hawk]

Having a prayer service in the white house is not at all the same as declaring a national day of prayer. He did not encourage everyone across the USA to participate in the Ramadan gathering. It was a private event that got news coverage as it should have.

[Hawk]

Frank, Obama has INCREASED defence spending... The DEMS have INCREASED defence spending. You take in all of that bull crap and spew it in the belief that is correct. That is a parrot Frank...

GOP lawmakers (are) falsely accusing the president of gutting the Pentagon’s budget, when in fact President Obama is actually increasing Bush-era defense spending by $21 billion in the new fiscal year.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced April 6, 2009, that he planned an overhaul of military spending, reducing the amount on big-ticket items such as the F-22 fighter plane and shifting more money toward new technology and troops. That led to Republican complaints that Gates was gutting defense.

Representatives in Congress (are) wildly and falsely mischaracterizing that as making cuts to the military's budget, Afghanistan and Iraq spending, that is all in a separate budget . You could look that up. In the final year of the Bush administration, the defense budget was $513 billion. In fiscal year 2010 it will be $534 billion. That would be more. In fact, it's an increase of $21 billion, not a cut. As they say, do the math.

The figures are straight from the Obama administration's proposed 2010 budget , which calls for a 4 percent increase in base funding for defense. That would, in fact, increase the base defense budget from the 2009 enacted level of $513.3 billion to $533.7 billion.

There are a couple caveats here.

Base defense spending does not include the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Spending for the wars comes through supplemental budgets.

To calculate the cost of defense including the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan requires a little math.

During the first half of this fiscal year, President Bush secured $66 billion in supplemental funding for the wars, fully aware that a second supplement would be needed from the new president. Obama has requested an additional $83 billion supplement (although $7 billion of that is for foreign aid). So $142 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan in 2009. Together with base defense spending of $513 billion, it comes to total 2009 military spending of $655 billion.

Obama's proposed budget calls for $534 billion in base defense spending and estimates a "placeholder" amount of $130 billion to fund the wars overseas. Total estimated military spending for 2010: $664 billion.

[nakedtwister]

[quote="Hawk"]Frank, Obama has INCREASED defence spending... ]



Hey Hawk, can I get that defence at Lowes?

[f.sciarrillo]

Frank, Obama has INCREASED defence spending... The DEMS have INCREASED defence spending. You take in all of that bull crap and spew it in the belief that is correct. That is a parrot Frank...

GOP lawmakers (are) falsely accusing the president of gutting the Pentagon’s budget, when in fact President Obama is actually increasing Bush-era defense spending by $21 billion in the new fiscal year.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced April 6, 2009, that he planned an overhaul of military spending, reducing the amount on big-ticket items such as the F-22 fighter plane and shifting more money toward new technology and troops. That led to Republican complaints that Gates was gutting defense.

Representatives in Congress (are) wildly and falsely mischaracterizing that as making cuts to the military's budget, Afghanistan and Iraq spending, that is all in a separate budget . You could look that up. In the final year of the Bush administration, the defense budget was $513 billion. In fiscal year 2010 it will be $534 billion. That would be more. In fact, it's an increase of $21 billion, not a cut. As they say, do the math.

The figures are straight from the Obama administration's proposed 2010 budget , which calls for a 4 percent increase in base funding for defense. That would, in fact, increase the base defense budget from the 2009 enacted level of $513.3 billion to $533.7 billion.

There are a couple caveats here.

Base defense spending does not include the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Spending for the wars comes through supplemental budgets.

To calculate the cost of defense including the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan requires a little math.

During the first half of this fiscal year, President Bush secured $66 billion in supplemental funding for the wars, fully aware that a second supplement would be needed from the new president. Obama has requested an additional $83 billion supplement (although $7 billion of that is for foreign aid). So $142 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan in 2009. Together with base defense spending of $513 billion, it comes to total 2009 military spending of $655 billion.

Obama's proposed budget calls for $534 billion in base defense spending and estimates a "placeholder" amount of $130 billion to fund the wars overseas. Total estimated military spending for 2010: $664 billion.

Hmm,,, interesting. I will have to look up the budget proposal. I don't watch fox news anymore, all I watch now is CNN. Although, there are days I try to watch MSNBC, usually when nothing else is on. So I don't think I am being a parrot at all. I got the dems wanting to cut defense from the budget arguments a while back. I think even Chris Matthews said they should cut defense. Unless I heard him wrong.

[Hawk]

Frank, Obama has INCREASED defence spending... ]



Hey Hawk, can I get that defence at Lowes?

They will sell you de fence...

[Hawk]

Same crap all over again. NO one complained when GW Bush proposed the same thing to Israrl. Hmmmm Biased media ya think ?

It turns out that President George W. Bush had called for return to pre 1949 boundary lines when Israel was first created, as recently as a speech in 2008, while Obama referred to pre 1967, which in most respects is the same statement, but when Bush suggested it, his party endorsed it, but when Obama suggests it, he is bitterly condemned by Republicans.

What ya think Frank ? Why weren't you bitching when Bush proposed the same thing ? Anyone ?

This SHOULD gp without saying. What it comes down to is that the Republican party, as always, will simply come out against anything Obama says or does, even if it follows earlier Republican principles or stands.

[Hawk]

Frank, Obama has INCREASED defence spending... The DEMS have INCREASED defence spending. You take in all of that bull crap and spew it in the belief that is correct. That is a parrot Frank...

GOP lawmakers (are) falsely accusing the president of gutting the Pentagon’s budget, when in fact President Obama is actually increasing Bush-era defense spending by $21 billion in the new fiscal year.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates announced April 6, 2009, that he planned an overhaul of military spending, reducing the amount on big-ticket items such as the F-22 fighter plane and shifting more money toward new technology and troops. That led to Republican complaints that Gates was gutting defense.

Representatives in Congress (are) wildly and falsely mischaracterizing that as making cuts to the military's budget, Afghanistan and Iraq spending, that is all in a separate budget . You could look that up. In the final year of the Bush administration, the defense budget was $513 billion. In fiscal year 2010 it will be $534 billion. That would be more. In fact, it's an increase of $21 billion, not a cut. As they say, do the math.

The figures are straight from the Obama administration's proposed 2010 budget , which calls for a 4 percent increase in base funding for defense. That would, in fact, increase the base defense budget from the 2009 enacted level of $513.3 billion to $533.7 billion.

There are a couple caveats here.

Base defense spending does not include the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Spending for the wars comes through supplemental budgets.

To calculate the cost of defense including the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan requires a little math.

During the first half of this fiscal year, President Bush secured $66 billion in supplemental funding for the wars, fully aware that a second supplement would be needed from the new president. Obama has requested an additional $83 billion supplement (although $7 billion of that is for foreign aid). So $142 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan in 2009. Together with base defense spending of $513 billion, it comes to total 2009 military spending of $655 billion.

Obama's proposed budget calls for $534 billion in base defense spending and estimates a "placeholder" amount of $130 billion to fund the wars overseas. Total estimated military spending for 2010: $664 billion.

Hmm,,, interesting. I will have to look up the budget proposal. I don't watch fox news anymore, all I watch now is CNN. Although, there are days I try to watch MSNBC, usually when nothing else is on. So I don't think I am being a parrot at all. I got the dems wanting to cut defense from the budget arguments a while back. I think even Chris Matthews said they should cut defense. Unless I heard him wrong.

Who cares what Chris Matthew's opinion is ?

Obama cut the one fighter plane and the Republicans took the chance to announce it as a defense cut. IT was ! It saved needsless spending. But that money and more went to technology and troop safety.

[Hawk]

If the Bush-era tax cuts are renewed next year, that policy will by 2019 be the single largest contributor to the nation's public debt -- "the sum of annual budget deficits, minus annual surpluses" -- according to new analysis from the non-partisan Center for Budget and Policy Priorities.

These tax breaks, combined with the cost of fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, will account for nearly half the public debt in 2019, measured as a percentage of economic output, the CBPP's analysis shows. Even the cost of the economic downturn, combined with the cost of the legislation passed to stem the damage, won't be as burdensome as the weight of the Bush-era tax cuts, the chart below suggests. See if you can find the debt associated with the Trouble Asset Relief Program and the rescue of Fannie and Freddie:






Tax cuts for the highest earners were renewed late last year, as part of a deal that extended tax breaks for middle earners and reauthorized unemployment insurance. In an April speech, President Barack Obama laid out a plan to reduce the nation's deficit and debt, suggesting that he would strive to make sure the tax cuts for the highest earners expire naturally in 2012.

If tax cuts do expire as scheduled, that would win significant debt relief for the government, CBPP says:

Simply letting the Bush tax cuts expire on schedule (or paying for any portions that policymakers decide to extend) would stabilize the debt-to-GDP ratio for the next decade. While we'd have to do much more to keep the debt stable over the longer run, that would be a huge accomplishment.

[onegunguitar]

Damn.....looks like your feathers are ruffled there Hawk

[Banned]

Hawk likes taxes going to the government so much I'll bet he would step up and pay some of ours. I think all liberals who want more taxes ought to volunteer to pay more. If its such a good idea, put your money where your ideas are.

Or is it that you only want other people to pay more taxes?

[evolanji]

So maybe before I post something I should read the comments to see if A. it's already been addressed or B. before I get ripped to shreds. But I will say this. I don't hate Obama , I don't like him as a president as well. I hated Bush and still do. I think having him in office for 8 years was a very big mistake but hey the American people voted ( especially the ones in Florida) I think that no matter who would have come into office after him would have had their hands full, there was too much of a mess to clean up. But I will say this, One of my biggest Pet Peeves is open promisses. I hate being told that someone is going to do something and they do not , and this is why I don't like Obama. Don't say it if you can't do it, but I am just one single person and my opion does not mean much in the scheme of things . I can stand on a soapbox all day long (and most of the time I do) but I think latley with politics i'm the one winded and the high and mighty are still sitting pretty. But hey what do I know Clinton was my favorite prez and I'm a female that should hate him but I'm sure Hillary was giving him any and the man had needs , he should have picked someone better looking than Monica though.

[Hawk]

Hawk likes taxes going to the government so much I'll bet he would step up and pay some of ours. I think all liberals who want more taxes ought to volunteer to pay more. If its such a good idea, put your money where your ideas are.

Or is it that you only want other people to pay more taxes?

Being self employed I guarantee I pay more (%) than you. Besides income taxes I pay business privilege taxes, double Social Security (Employers pay half of yours, I am my employer). Various licenses etc. Do I like it ? No. Do I support the needs of EPA FDA CIA FBI Military, police, Medicare, Medicaid and more...damn right I do and I'm proud to do it.

[Banned]

I know you are a proud tool of the government. So proud you should volunteer to pay more taxes, take the burden off of others.

Its people like you that allows government to think they can get away with anything, like running up a $14.3 trillion debt.

Feel proud of that. You helped enable it.

[Hawk]

Damn.....looks like your feathers are ruffled there Hawk

I know that was to be punny , but I'm just having fun.

[Hawk]

I know you are a proud tool of the government. So proud you should volunteer to pay more taxes, take the burden off of others.

Its people like you that allows government to think they can get away with anything, like running up a $14.3 trillion debt.

Feel proud of that. You helped enable it.

I voted for Reagan once. Reagan, Bush and Bush took it to the $10 trillion level and I did not vote for them. Again, Obama is spending, cleaning up the mess those three made and he doesn't have the tax rates Reagan had to get it done. Nor does he have the manufacturing jobs that left during the Bush years.

[sstuckey]

So maybe before I post something I should read the comments to see if A. it's already been addressed or B. before I get ripped to shreds. But I will say this. I don't hate Obama , I don't like him as a president as well. I hated Bush and still do. I think having him in office for 8 years was a very big mistake but hey the American people voted ( especially the ones in Florida) I think that no matter who would have come into office after him would have had their hands full, there was too much of a mess to clean up. But I will say this, One of my biggest Pet Peeves is open promisses. I hate being told that someone is going to do something and they do not , and this is why I don't like Obama. Don't say it if you can't do it, but I am just one single person and my opion does not mean much in the scheme of things . I can stand on a soapbox all day long (and most of the time I do) but I think latley with politics i'm the one winded and the high and mighty are still sitting pretty. But hey what do I know Clinton was my favorite prez and I'm a female that should hate him but I'm sure Hillary was giving him any and the man had needs , he should have picked someone better looking than Monica though.

I'm on your side of the fence. I thought Clinton was excellent!! Shame the Lewinsky thing will forever be his legacy. As far as voicing your opinion...let it rip. These guys go through this on a regular basis and its quite entertaining. Fell free to join the non-sense.