Where Did the Anti-War Movement Go?

[Banned]

Good to see a normally twisted post by songy.

[KeithReynolds]

War is stupid.

[f.sciarrillo]

I think we should start calling songsmith, spinsmith ..

[Hawk]

Funny, I'm noticing dead silence regarding the downward spiral of Tea Party candidates. Nothing about witchery, handcuffing reporters, racist remarks ("some of you look Asian to me"), homophobic remarks ("homosexuality is not a viable choice"), head-stomping, a $140 million-dollar "self-financed" campaign, Nazi re-enactment, reality-show for a would-be prez candidate, and a CBS?Newsweek poll that finds Tea Party approval ratings at a loooooow 20% (Obama stands at 44%). Incidentally, in the cases of all the aforementioned whackitude, the TP'er candidate in question is not a shoe-in, in fact many are down double-digits.
Oh, and yesterday's Rally Against Douchery outdrew Beck's nearly 3-to-1. If you don't see a backlash by now, you should stick to the Rent Is Too Damn High Party, your chances will be better.--->JMS

The righties didn't know any of that. It's not on Fox on Limbaugh. In fact I'm surprised the RP right is not saying something like, "Well you have your truth if you want to believe it".

Actual facts confuse them.

[f.sciarrillo]

Are you RP lefties able to count to 100? That is about how many seats you will lose on Tuesday

[Hawk]

Are you RP lefties able to count to 100? That is about how many seats you will lose on Tuesday

I know.

[f.sciarrillo]

Funny, I'm noticing dead silence regarding the downward spiral of Tea Party candidates. Nothing about witchery, handcuffing reporters, racist remarks ("some of you look Asian to me"), homophobic remarks ("homosexuality is not a viable choice"), head-stomping, a $140 million-dollar "self-financed" campaign, Nazi re-enactment, reality-show for a would-be prez candidate, and a CBS?Newsweek poll that finds Tea Party approval ratings at a loooooow 20% (Obama stands at 44%). Incidentally, in the cases of all the aforementioned whackitude, the TP'er candidate in question is not a shoe-in, in fact many are down double-digits.
Oh, and yesterday's Rally Against Douchery outdrew Beck's nearly 3-to-1. If you don't see a backlash by now, you should stick to the Rent Is Too Damn High Party, your chances will be better.--->JMS

As for the pot smoking comedy rally in DC, it drew 200,000. The Beck Rally drew over 500,000. You must have got your facts from MSNBC. As for the rest of your stupid rant, well, that is it was, a stupid rant.

[Hawk]

Funny, I'm noticing dead silence regarding the downward spiral of Tea Party candidates. Nothing about witchery, handcuffing reporters, racist remarks ("some of you look Asian to me"), homophobic remarks ("homosexuality is not a viable choice"), head-stomping, a $140 million-dollar "self-financed" campaign, Nazi re-enactment, reality-show for a would-be prez candidate, and a CBS?Newsweek poll that finds Tea Party approval ratings at a loooooow 20% (Obama stands at 44%). Incidentally, in the cases of all the aforementioned whackitude, the TP'er candidate in question is not a shoe-in, in fact many are down double-digits.
Oh, and yesterday's Rally Against Douchery outdrew Beck's nearly 3-to-1. If you don't see a backlash by now, you should stick to the Rent Is Too Damn High Party, your chances will be better.--->JMS

As for the pot smoking comedy rally in DC, it drew 200,000. The Beck Rally drew over 500,000. You must have got your facts from MSNBC. As for the rest of your stupid rant, well, that is it was, a stupid rant.

So go ahead Frank. Enlighten me. Which facts that he stated are wrong besides the Back draw ?

EDIT: 500,000 ? Where is that posted ?

And songsmith is NOT talking about the Ed Shultz ralley but the Stewert /Colbert ralley.

ChattahBox US News) – With gatherers crowding the nation’s Capitol on Saturday, estimates of how many people attended the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” ranged widely—but a scientific study has pinned down the tally, rawstory.com reports. AirPhotosLive.com, a company that creates estimates for government agencies such as the U.S. Border Patrol, estimated that 215,000 people attended the Saturday rally, hosted by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

That’s more than double the number of people who attended Glenn Beck’s August rally, AirPhotosLive.com determined. Beck may have thought he saw up to a half million people at his August Tea Party rally, but the scientific estimate noted that Beck’s “Restoring Honor” gathering drew 87,000 people, rawstory.com indicates.

CBS News hired AirPhotosLive.com to provide the estimates, which had a margin of error of plus/minus 10 percent. Beck balked at the comparison, but CBS responded by offering a detailed description of how AirPhotosLive came to its

[f.sciarrillo]

Funny, I'm noticing dead silence regarding the downward spiral of Tea Party candidates. Nothing about witchery, handcuffing reporters, racist remarks ("some of you look Asian to me"), homophobic remarks ("homosexuality is not a viable choice"), head-stomping, a $140 million-dollar "self-financed" campaign, Nazi re-enactment, reality-show for a would-be prez candidate, and a CBS?Newsweek poll that finds Tea Party approval ratings at a loooooow 20% (Obama stands at 44%). Incidentally, in the cases of all the aforementioned whackitude, the TP'er candidate in question is not a shoe-in, in fact many are down double-digits.
Oh, and yesterday's Rally Against Douchery outdrew Beck's nearly 3-to-1. If you don't see a backlash by now, you should stick to the Rent Is Too Damn High Party, your chances will be better.--->JMS

As for the pot smoking comedy rally in DC, it drew 200,000. The Beck Rally drew over 500,000. You must have got your facts from MSNBC. As for the rest of your stupid rant, well, that is it was, a stupid rant.

So go ahead Frank. Enlighten me. Which facts that he stated are wrong besides the Back draw ?

EDIT: 500,000 ? Where is that posted ?

And songsmith is NOT talking about the Ed Shultz ralley but the Stewert /Colbert ralley.

ChattahBox US News) – With gatherers crowding the nation’s Capitol on Saturday, estimates of how many people attended the “Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear” ranged widely—but a scientific study has pinned down the tally, rawstory.com reports. AirPhotosLive.com, a company that creates estimates for government agencies such as the U.S. Border Patrol, estimated that 215,000 people attended the Saturday rally, hosted by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

That’s more than double the number of people who attended Glenn Beck’s August rally, AirPhotosLive.com determined. Beck may have thought he saw up to a half million people at his August Tea Party rally, but the scientific estimate noted that Beck’s “Restoring Honor” gathering drew 87,000 people, rawstory.com indicates.

CBS News hired AirPhotosLive.com to provide the estimates, which had a margin of error of plus/minus 10 percent. Beck balked at the comparison, but CBS responded by offering a detailed description of how AirPhotosLive came to its

You liberals and you main sources make me laugh . If it isn't something that was on MSNBC, or mentioned source from MSNBC, it is not true ..

Look here! http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... h-charity/

The only half-way positive headline I could find the morning after Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally was this: “Beck, Palin tell thousands to restore honor.” At least 500,000, according to the New York Daily News, God- and America-loving people covered the National Mall from the Lincoln Memorial to the Washington Monument. It was a beautiful, peaceful sight. It was not a political event. It was a revival. You can watch the entire event on C-SPAN. The intent was to inspire us toward the practice of hope, faith and charity in our own lives. That’s the path to restoring honor.

The Stewart and Colbert smokeathon drew less .. And for the record, I watch most of it. The only thing I didn't like was the Roots ..

[f.sciarrillo]

Here is another source: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... 03544.html

Glenn Beck said today that his "Restoring Honor" rally attracted "a minimum of 500,000 people" and complained that news outlets, including CBS News, badly underestimated the number of people who showed up for the event.

Also, just look at he pics from it. If you think that was a total of 87,000 people, then you are really fabricating BS stories to fit your agenda ..

[songsmith]

Washington Times... don't they do the Fox Morning knockoff radio show on WRTA 6-9am? Ya, I'd believe them, they're really objective. I'd believe Beck, too, he'd never lie to self-aggrandize. Well, except when he told that lie at Beckapalooza that he held a George Washington document in his hands, then admitted he lied for effect.
The National Mall (a side-area) held less than a hundred people on 9/12. It wasn't shown on Fox. It was Saturday. It was packed.

Incidentally, Frank, the New Conservative Congress has until Tax Day to fix everything. That's how long the Obama Admin got, that should be all the Tea Party needs. If they don't, we're going to start bringing guns to political townhall meetings, and calling everybody fascists, whether they actually are or not.--->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Spinsmith, You call them fascist and Racists now, so what will change?

As I stated, if you don't get it from MSNBC, then it is not true - Plain and Simple. I hope you are prepared for the landslide today, it is going to be bad. I mean Bad ... As it should be, you liberal cooks wouldn't know how to run a country if it fell from the sky, sat on your face and wiggled ..

By the way, there is a viewer warning on your beloved station today for suicides. You can guarantee that most of the nut case crack smokers on that station will not be able to handle today. Especially your man Keith "The Fag" Olbermann and Rachel "The Butch Lesbian" Maddow .. It wouldn't surprise me if you see quite a few liberals hanging from trees and balconies today ...

[f.sciarrillo]

songsmith dont rag on frank! hes a very objectiv & independent political mind who looks att both sides of an issue! hes life has been in shambles since oboma took office! thats how bad things have gotten. frank just wants the world to get better! thats why we need to write a frank tribute song.

Here is another one I am working on for liberals who are in love with Obama ... Come on now, wrap those arms around each other, sway back and forth and give Obama a big wet one. I know you want to ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkPFSt3 ... 1&index=32

[songsmith]

Spinsmith, You call them fascist and Racists now, so what will change?

As I stated, if you don't get it from MSNBC, then it is not true - Plain and Simple. I hope you are prepared for the landslide today, it is going to be bad. I mean Bad ... As it should be, you liberal cooks wouldn't know how to run a country if it fell from the sky, sat on your face and wiggled ..

By the way, there is a viewer warning on your beloved station today for suicides. You can guarantee that most of the nut case crack smokers on that station will not be able to handle today. Especially your man Keith "The Fag" Olbermann and Rachel "The Butch Lesbian" Maddow .. It wouldn't surprise me if you see quite a few liberals hanging from trees and balconies today ...

Sorry, I don't watch MSNBC even a little. Not at all in at least a couple years, and seldom even then. I listen to conservative talk radio. Then I do the opposite of whatever they say. I am also not so liberal, I'm an independent moderate, I just think the rightwing fringe and rightwing media are dangerous and detrimental to American society. And I can't cook.
Sounds like I really got under your skin there.
Hey, the talkshows tell us that only the far right can fix America's deficit, and stimulate the economy to create jobs. I feel I'm being fair in allowing them the same amount of time that transpired before the Tea Party decided they'd been "Taxed Enough Already."
And by the way... I haven't been paying attention... how did Sharron Angle make out against Harry Reid? Well, Carl Paladino got elected, right? Christine O'Donnell? Really? Well, Joe Miller was elected in a landslide right? Linda McMahon? Meg Whitman? A hundred and seventy-five million of her own money? Wow, I could have lost that race for a hundred bucks! --->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Sorry, I don't watch MSNBC even a little. Not at all in at least a couple years, and seldom even then. I listen to conservative talk radio. Then I do the opposite of whatever they say. I am also not so liberal, I'm an independent moderate, I just think the rightwing fringe and rightwing media are dangerous and detrimental to American society. And I can't cook. --->JMS

That should independent moderate who leans liberal. I have yet to hear you say anything bad about the liberals. .

[songsmith]

Read more closely.
I've been outspokenly anti-union (though I believe that if corporations can buy elections, unions should also be allowed). I'm against gay marriage (but not because it's immoral). I play bluegrass, work a blue-collar job, drive a pickup, wear a camo ballcap, bass-fish, and live in manufactured housing. I'm thoroughly redneck, and proud of that. I have at least one gun, maybe more.
I simply will not concede to the far-right. Period. I see the rightwing media as nothing less than what they are: propagandists who get paid huge sums of money to further the interests of the richest, at the direct expense of the not-richest. I don't accept that the top 2% of wage-earners should control every aspect of my life, while calling it "freedom." I don't believe the corporations have my best interests in mind, because they prove exactly that every single day. I am not impressed by people who treat other people like a commodity, to be exploited. I do not believe America should be run like a business, because business is inherently corrupt, and must put profit ahead of all else... and businesses fail every day. Also, I can vote for my govt, but businesses are basically dictatorships i have no control over.
If that all makes me a liberal, then okay. Call me whatever you want. Using the word "liberal" is basically interchangeable with the N-word for the rightwing media, anyway. Anything to de-legitimize the other side. Well, you stick with Witchy-Poo and the Queen of Quit. They don't even need the Left to de-legitimize them, they do a hilarious job of it themselves.
I'm not a witch. Apparently, I'm a liberal. --->JMS

[Banned]

I see the rightwing media as nothing less than what they are: propagandists who get paid huge sums of money to further the interests of the richest, at the direct expense of the not-richest.




Anything to de-legitimize the other side.

What is very interesting is how you do all you can to de-legitimize right wing media (the other side).


I would love to see you post that left wing media gets paid huge sums of money to do anything to further the interests of larger governmental control, at the expenses of freedom and liberty.

[TragicMind]

Amen undercoverjo! your fightin the good fight against govament control..your out there workin hard every day and livin in poverty eatin the ramen noodles cuz theyre taxin you so much but you keep goin..with the frank tribute song i propose that rockpage does an undercover benifit gig to raise money for jo so he can at least have some cup o noodles. what do you say rocpage?

[f.sciarrillo]

Read more closely.
I've been outspokenly anti-union (though I believe that if corporations can buy elections, unions should also be allowed). I'm against gay marriage (but not because it's immoral). I play bluegrass, work a blue-collar job, drive a pickup, wear a camo ballcap, bass-fish, and live in manufactured housing. I'm thoroughly redneck, and proud of that. I have at least one gun, maybe more.
I simply will not concede to the far-right. Period. I see the rightwing media as nothing less than what they are: propagandists who get paid huge sums of money to further the interests of the richest, at the direct expense of the not-richest. I don't accept that the top 2% of wage-earners should control every aspect of my life, while calling it "freedom." I don't believe the corporations have my best interests in mind, because they prove exactly that every single day. I am not impressed by people who treat other people like a commodity, to be exploited. I do not believe America should be run like a business, because business is inherently corrupt, and must put profit ahead of all else... and businesses fail every day. Also, I can vote for my govt, but businesses are basically dictatorships i have no control over.
If that all makes me a liberal, then okay. Call me whatever you want. Using the word "liberal" is basically interchangeable with the N-word for the rightwing media, anyway. Anything to de-legitimize the other side. Well, you stick with Witchy-Poo and the Queen of Quit. They don't even need the Left to de-legitimize them, they do a hilarious job of it themselves.
I'm not a witch. Apparently, I'm a liberal. --->JMS

Your words and your actions on here show that you are a liberal. let me ask you this if I may, You don't have to answer, but Who did you vote for on Tuesday?

[songsmith]

Stalin, Marx, Mao and Obama. And Bill Shuster. Twice. (I used my ACORN card.)
See, I'm open-minded. --->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Stalin, Marx, Mao and Obama. And Bill Shuster. Twice. (I used my ACORN card.)
See, I'm open-minded. --->JMS

John, you crack me up ..

[songsmith]

Actually, you have me on that one. I voted for 2 Republicans (I almost always vote GOP locally) and the rest were Dems. But, I think we can all agree on one thing:
Nobody this election cycle really made me want to vote for them.
I had no real passion for any candidate, only against certain ones. And if they don't achieve, they're working temp jobs right now. I think the Tea Party would be with me on that one, at least that's what they say, and that's my point... if you're gonna talk loud, you better get sh*t done.--->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Actually, you have me on that one. I voted for 2 Republicans (I almost always vote GOP locally) and the rest were Dems. But, I think we can all agree on one thing:
Nobody this election cycle really made me want to vote for them.
I had no real passion for any candidate, only against certain ones. And if they don't achieve, they're working temp jobs right now. I think the Tea Party would be with me on that one, at least that's what they say, and that's my point... if you're gonna talk loud, you better get sh*t done.--->JMS

I know what you mean. I would have voted for king kong if he was running against the Dems this time - I have considered voting for a dem, but then realized I wasn't thinking rationally. Although, I do have to admit that if Hillary runs in 2012 against Obama, I will vote for her. I do like Bill Clinton, and for some reason, I think she could do a better job than obama by a long shot. I know that isn't saying much because a monkey ccould do better than Obama ...

[bsaller]

Can't we leave the rhetoric to the politicians? After all they're better at it!