Arizona Immigration law in court today.
On a musical note:
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
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Except that the AZ government is doing what the great majority of their citizens want them to do:RiversFox wrote:On a musical note:
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... mmigration
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It isn't just the Arizona residents. It is residents all over the country.lonewolf wrote:Except that the AZ government is doing what the great majority of their citizens want them to do:RiversFox wrote:On a musical note:
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... mmigration
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But do 70% of Arizona's primary concert-goers support the bill?lonewolf wrote:Except that the AZ government is doing what the great majority of their citizens want them to do:RiversFox wrote:On a musical note:
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... mmigration
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What do you do if someone walks into your house and sits on your couch and doesn't leave? Just because you have it better than they do. You probably would have them removed. And then the next day you have a bunch of people protesting at your house because you're an asshole for kicking that person out. Basically that's the micro scale of the problem. Come here legally and you won't have any issues. I know people that came here legally and they get pissed because they had to work hard to become a citizen, while others just sneaked in.
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Bands canceling tours in a state because of the legislation just tells me that they are more interested in the politics of the state than the fans. If anything, things like that would hurt them more than it helps them ...RiversFox wrote:As a fan,
I would be crushed if Giants of Science refused to tour in PA because of PA Legislation.
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What percent of Moron 5 fan base votes? I would bet very few.lonewolf wrote:Except that the AZ government is doing what the great majority of their citizens want them to do:RiversFox wrote:On a musical note:
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... mmigration
PRESS RELEASE
Los Angeles, California, May 25, 2010
We are reaching out to get your ear for a minute about this critical situation in Arizona.
If you haven't heard, the Arizona state legislature passed a bill (SB 1070) that was signed into law by Governor Jan Brewer that legalizes and sanctions racial profiling. Straight up.
It forces the cops to hunt down and target anyone they "reasonably suspect" that may be undocumented. And if the people they harass don't have proof that they were born in the U.S., they can be detained and arrested. This must be stopped.
Fans of our music, our stories, our films and our words can be pulled over and harassed every day because they are brown or black, or for the way they speak, or for the music they listen to. People who are poor like some of us used to be could be forced to live in a constant state of fear while just doing what they can to find work and survive. This law opens the door for them to be shaked down, or even worse, detained and deported while just trying to travel home from school, from home to work, or when they just roll out with their friends.
Some of us grew up dealing with racial profiling, but this law (SB 1070) takes it to a whole new low. If other states follow the direction of the Arizona government, we could be headed towards a pre-civil rights era reality. This unjust law was set into motion by the same Arizona government that refused to acknowledge Martin Luther King Jr. day as a national holiday.
When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat, they arrested her. As a result, people got together and said we are not going to ride the bus until they change the law. It was this courageous action that sparked the Montgomery bus boycott. What if we got together, signed a collective letter saying, "we're not going to ride the bus", saying we are not going to comply. We are not going to play in Arizona. We are going to boycott Arizona!
Signed,
Zack de la Rocha
Here's a list of the courageous artists who have taken a stand for civil and human rights in this collective decision to boycott Arizona:
Cypress Hill
Juanes
Conor Oberst
Los Tigres del Norte
Rage Against the Machine
Cafe Tacvba
Micheal Moore
Kanye West
Calle 13
Joe Satriani
Serj Tankian
Rise Against
Ozomatli
Sabertooth Tiger
Massive Attack
One Day as a Lion
Street Sweeper Social Club
Spank Rock
Sonic Youth
Tenacious D
Also-
NINE INCH NAILS • CHRIS ROCK • MAROON 5 • GOGOL BORDELLO • MY MORNING JACKET • BEN HARPER • RY COODER • PITBULL • STEVE EARLE • BILLY BRAGG • SWEET HONEY AND THE ROCK • ANTI-FLAG • THROWING MUSES • STATE RADIO • AZTLAN UNDERGROUND • DJ SPOOKY
We are asking artists the world over to stand with us, and not allow our collective economic power to be used to aid and abet civil and human rights violations that will be caused by Arizona’s odious law.
Los Angeles, California, May 25, 2010
We are reaching out to get your ear for a minute about this critical situation in Arizona.
If you haven't heard, the Arizona state legislature passed a bill (SB 1070) that was signed into law by Governor Jan Brewer that legalizes and sanctions racial profiling. Straight up.
It forces the cops to hunt down and target anyone they "reasonably suspect" that may be undocumented. And if the people they harass don't have proof that they were born in the U.S., they can be detained and arrested. This must be stopped.
Fans of our music, our stories, our films and our words can be pulled over and harassed every day because they are brown or black, or for the way they speak, or for the music they listen to. People who are poor like some of us used to be could be forced to live in a constant state of fear while just doing what they can to find work and survive. This law opens the door for them to be shaked down, or even worse, detained and deported while just trying to travel home from school, from home to work, or when they just roll out with their friends.
Some of us grew up dealing with racial profiling, but this law (SB 1070) takes it to a whole new low. If other states follow the direction of the Arizona government, we could be headed towards a pre-civil rights era reality. This unjust law was set into motion by the same Arizona government that refused to acknowledge Martin Luther King Jr. day as a national holiday.
When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat, they arrested her. As a result, people got together and said we are not going to ride the bus until they change the law. It was this courageous action that sparked the Montgomery bus boycott. What if we got together, signed a collective letter saying, "we're not going to ride the bus", saying we are not going to comply. We are not going to play in Arizona. We are going to boycott Arizona!
Signed,
Zack de la Rocha
Here's a list of the courageous artists who have taken a stand for civil and human rights in this collective decision to boycott Arizona:
Cypress Hill
Juanes
Conor Oberst
Los Tigres del Norte
Rage Against the Machine
Cafe Tacvba
Micheal Moore
Kanye West
Calle 13
Joe Satriani
Serj Tankian
Rise Against
Ozomatli
Sabertooth Tiger
Massive Attack
One Day as a Lion
Street Sweeper Social Club
Spank Rock
Sonic Youth
Tenacious D
Also-
NINE INCH NAILS • CHRIS ROCK • MAROON 5 • GOGOL BORDELLO • MY MORNING JACKET • BEN HARPER • RY COODER • PITBULL • STEVE EARLE • BILLY BRAGG • SWEET HONEY AND THE ROCK • ANTI-FLAG • THROWING MUSES • STATE RADIO • AZTLAN UNDERGROUND • DJ SPOOKY
We are asking artists the world over to stand with us, and not allow our collective economic power to be used to aid and abet civil and human rights violations that will be caused by Arizona’s odious law.
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Looks like more people are spreading the lies of the bill. Nice to see, especially since if a democratic gov would have done it, you would be hearing praises and cheering in the streets for it. It is so nice that none of those people actually read it. 
Also, I wouldn't call those artist courageous. I would call them not only stupid, but illiterate ..
[edit] I looked at that list again, and a majority of them I never heard of. [/edit]

Also, I wouldn't call those artist courageous. I would call them not only stupid, but illiterate ..
[edit] I looked at that list again, and a majority of them I never heard of. [/edit]
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You will have to conduct your own poll there Paul. Make sure you also find out if they are likely voters. Good luck with that.bassist_25 wrote:But do 70% of Arizona's primary concert-goers support the bill?lonewolf wrote:Except that the AZ government is doing what the great majority of their citizens want them to do:RiversFox wrote:On a musical note:
Some bands are taking action against the ruling and removing ALL Arizona tour dates from their schedules.
Some booking tours now refuse to book shows in Arizona.
Saw it about Maroon 5 and they feel very strongly other bands are going to follow suit...
So they are going to punish their fans for something their fans have no control over?
Ironic, eh? The people having no control over their government...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ ... mmigration
...Oh, the freedom of the day that yielded to no rule or time...
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RiversFox wrote:NINE INCH NAILS • CHRIS ROCK • MAROON 5 • GOGOL BORDELLO • MY MORNING JACKET • BEN HARPER • RY COODER • PITBULL • STEVE EARLE • BILLY BRAGG • SWEET HONEY AND THE ROCK • ANTI-FLAG • THROWING MUSES • STATE RADIO • AZTLAN UNDERGROUND • DJ SPOOKY.

...Oh, the freedom of the day that yielded to no rule or time...
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Perhaps it's time to start my own think tank.lonewolf wrote:
You will have to conduct your own poll there Paul. Make sure you also find out if they are likely voters. Good luck with that.
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RiversFox wrote:PRESS RELEASE
Los Angeles, California, May 25, 2010
We are reaching out to get your ear for a minute about this critical situation in Arizona.
If you haven't heard, the Arizona state legislature passed a bill (SB 1070) that was signed into law by Governor Jan Brewer that legalizes and sanctions racial profiling. Straight up.
It forces the cops to hunt down and target anyone they "reasonably suspect" that may be undocumented. And if the people they harass don't have proof that they were born in the U.S., they can be detained and arrested. This must be stopped.
Fans of our music, our stories, our films and our words can be pulled over and harassed every day because they are brown or black, or for the way they speak, or for the music they listen to. People who are poor like some of us used to be could be forced to live in a constant state of fear while just doing what they can to find work and survive. This law opens the door for them to be shaked down, or even worse, detained and deported while just trying to travel home from school, from home to work, or when they just roll out with their friends.
Some of us grew up dealing with racial profiling, but this law (SB 1070) takes it to a whole new low. If other states follow the direction of the Arizona government, we could be headed towards a pre-civil rights era reality. This unjust law was set into motion by the same Arizona government that refused to acknowledge Martin Luther King Jr. day as a national holiday.
When Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat, they arrested her. As a result, people got together and said we are not going to ride the bus until they change the law. It was this courageous action that sparked the Montgomery bus boycott. What if we got together, signed a collective letter saying, "we're not going to ride the bus", saying we are not going to comply. We are not going to play in Arizona. We are going to boycott Arizona!
Signed,
Zack de la Rocha
Here's a list of the courageous artists who have taken a stand for civil and human rights in this collective decision to boycott Arizona:
Cypress Hill
Juanes
Conor Oberst
Los Tigres del Norte
Rage Against the Machine
Cafe Tacvba
Micheal Moore
Kanye West
Calle 13
Joe Satriani
Serj Tankian
Rise Against
Ozomatli
Sabertooth Tiger
Massive Attack
One Day as a Lion
Street Sweeper Social Club
Spank Rock
Sonic Youth
Tenacious D
Also-
NINE INCH NAILS • CHRIS ROCK • MAROON 5 • GOGOL BORDELLO • MY MORNING JACKET • BEN HARPER • RY COODER • PITBULL • STEVE EARLE • BILLY BRAGG • SWEET HONEY AND THE ROCK • ANTI-FLAG • THROWING MUSES • STATE RADIO • AZTLAN UNDERGROUND • DJ SPOOKY
We are asking artists the world over to stand with us, and not allow our collective economic power to be used to aid and abet civil and human rights violations that will be caused by Arizona’s odious law.
WARNING WARNING WARNING......A bunch of bands and artists that nobody cares about(except Satch)are boycoting AZ.
PS bro walfare is not a civil right.


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Only fools stand up and lay down their arms.
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I still think the Satch is one of the best Guitar players in history. I just wish he would get his head screwed on right lol ...whitedevilone wrote: WARNING WARNING WARNING......A bunch of bands and artists that nobody cares about(except Satch)are boycoting AZ.
PS bro walfare is not a civil right.....and seriously Sonic Youth??Fucking trashcan music.I wouldn't go to a Moron 5 concert if it were in my back fucking yard.
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While I support Arizonans' rights to defend their property, the right to boycott is guaranteed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution of the United States of America.
It's also laissez-faire capitalism in action. Don't agree, or don't like it?
Tough. You can't do ANYTHING about it. I love that. All the right-wing huffing and puffing is impotent, and rendered useless.
And not one of you is doing any better in your career than any act on that list. Not that I'm a fan of them, or not a fan of the local boys, but the truth is the truth. I'm just pointing out the 800lb gorilla in the room.
In the interest of disclosure, Mama Corn is working on a short tour in AZ in the new year. (really!)--->JMS

Tough. You can't do ANYTHING about it. I love that. All the right-wing huffing and puffing is impotent, and rendered useless.
And not one of you is doing any better in your career than any act on that list. Not that I'm a fan of them, or not a fan of the local boys, but the truth is the truth. I'm just pointing out the 800lb gorilla in the room.
In the interest of disclosure, Mama Corn is working on a short tour in AZ in the new year. (really!)--->JMS
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John you never fail to make me laugh.Who's huffing and puffing?Just pointing out that most the bands on that list are as meaningless as well....NailDriver...and somehow you turn it into rightwing huffing and puffing?You're a silly little dude sometimes.Thanks for checking out the sampler.Peace.songsmith wrote:While I support Arizonans' rights to defend their property, the right to boycott is guaranteed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution of the United States of America.It's also laissez-faire capitalism in action. Don't agree, or don't like it?
Tough. You can't do ANYTHING about it. I love that. All the right-wing huffing and puffing is impotent, and rendered useless.
And not one of you is doing any better in your career than any act on that list. Not that I'm a fan of them, or not a fan of the local boys, but the truth is the truth. I'm just pointing out the 800lb gorilla in the room.
In the interest of disclosure, Mama Corn is working on a short tour in AZ in the new year. (really!)--->JMS
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Only fools stand up and lay down their arms.
Only fools stand up and lay down their arms.
While agree that those bands have the right to boycott Arizona if they like, I just don't understand how this law offends or angers someone. It's like those people don't understand what "illegal" means. This law isn't against immigration, it's against illegal immigration. Also, it doesn't encourage "racial" profiling. There are 3 races on Earth: Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid, along with other sub-groups. "Mexican" isn't a race, it's a nationality and an ethnicity. Ethnic profiling?? Maybe, but not racial profiling. From what I understand, the police can't stop someone and ask for proof of citizenship without cause, and without reasonable suspicion that they've broken the law. I'm all for this, but if they are here illegally they've already broken the law. Personally, I see nothing wrong with this law.
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