DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THE INFAMOUS "TIP-JAR"?
WE USUALLY SET ONE UP AND DO QUITE WELL! IS IT JUST AN ACOUSTIC ACT KIND OF THING OR NOT? IF A COVER IS BEING CHARGED AT THE DOOR WE DONT, BUT IF NOT IT CAN'T HURT!!
FEEDBACK????????
My friend, that is one topic that is SO hard for me to judge. Sometimes people get OFFENDED if I put the tip jar out, and oddly it's usually at places where I'm making shite for pay and people are drunken a-holes by 9:15. Other places, they tip me even if the jar's not out, in fact I generally do better at those places. I just never know.
I've played for nothing but tips and come home with $3.50, and I've played where people tipped $20 per song... I just wish I knew how to make the latter happen more often!
See you at the Post tonight.----->JMS
Being an acoustic guy, I almost always at least throw a tip jar out. When I first started playing here in South Florida in 2001, I'd make more in tips than my "show up and play" rate. Things have changed a little now that Miami thinks it's the "Hip Hop Capital of the World."
I used to just put out a Rolling Rock Bucket with nothing on it. People would take it with the wind. Then some of my friends grabbed it at a show and wrote TIPS real big on it with a sharpie.
Best Tipping Places......1. Ernie's, Fort Lauderdale, 2. The Clubhouse, Blue Knob, 3. Mueller's Pub - The Summit, Blue Knob
Worse tip I ever got.....An empty cigarette pack with a chewed up piece of gum in it. Gee Thanks!
I remember a few years ago, when I was on vacation in Fort Lauderdale, seeing a performer named Glenn Govot playing at The Elbo Room. During Billy Joel's "Piano Man," people started throwing money in his tip jar when he got to the part about "And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar." And after that, every time somebody else threw a tip in the jar during that song, Glenn would go back and re-do the song from that point forward. It was funny to watch, but effective; that jar filled up!
Glenn still plays at the Elbo room, and still has the same gimmick! I know him quite well, but we don't see eye to eye on a few issues. One is the fact that he thinks Dick Dale is a sellout to surfers b/c I did the Nissan ads. My arguement is whether or not he sold out his music or not, what does that have to do with surfers and Nissan? Anyway, interesting....
I always put a jar out for my shows... But my sets are made up crowd requests from a list of over 1,000 songs. There can be some down time w/o requests but I average around an extra 40- 60 bucks a night.
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What do you think about people 'coming around' with tip jars? I recall one time, seeing a band, and one of the bandmembers girlfriend's walked all over the bar & up to everyone saying "tips for the band?" I think forced tipping sucks, and I was embarrassed for the boyfriend because it annoyed everyone.
When my wife and I were doing acoustic we debated on it but never started putting one out, we've had people tell us we were crazy not too and we had a bar owner that paid us crap that said we were supposed to get money from tips.
I don't think there is any harm in setting one out but being pushy about it is another story, maybe mention it once or twice but not between every song and don't try to shame people into a tip either.
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We recently began putting the "tip jar" out because the Dave Single Trio, my husband's other band did a private party where they weren't getting paid much and needed a tip jar. One of the ladies at the party gave them a giant pitcher in the shape of a football and they made really great tips that night. I had never thought about doing the same thing for Ribbon Grass but since then, I thought why not? So I took the football, made a sign on it that says, "tip jar" and put some starter money in it. I would say on average we make about $5 in the tip jar at the clubs. BUT, if we do a private party or some event where the crowd is thirtysomething or older, we get $20 bills in the jar. The Cambria City Festival was where we made the most tips. I know when I was in college, I never would have had enough money to tip the band so I can see why the younger crowd doesn't go for it. Oh yeah, and we put the tip jar out at the Pony Lounge and the manager told us we were not allowed to "Ask" for tips. I said what is the difference between the bartenders and waitresses getting tipped and us? We are all providing a service. He said they don't solicit tips, it's fine if people come up and hand us money but we can't solicit it, something having to do with PLCB. No one else at any other club has ever said anything to us but that is the rule there. And last time we just happened to have it sitting off to the side cause I carried some other stuff into the club with the tip jar and some guy knocked it over and there were 200 pennies on the Pony Lounge dance floor, Oops! I put the pennies in there to weigh it down. The worst experiences with the tip jar? Some very very over the top drunk guy at YP kept trying to drink the money all night, because it's a pitcher, so it has a handle. He was playing with it all night. The next gig we went to, I went to put the tip jar up in its normal spot and luckily looked inside, the top of a broken beer bottle was in the tip jar, gee thanks. It's a good thing I looked first and didn't just reach in or God forbid a fan try and tip us and end up needing stitches or something. So I guess bottom line is, why not put the tip jar out and if you do a private party definitely put it out. People seem to be more generous at private functions than the clubs. And always look before you reach into it. Maybe we should get a lid for it?
Ribbon Grass
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Hey, man, I know times are tough... but I hits me as not too classy. And while I do encourage patrons over the mic to tip the waitstaff, I don't say anything about tipping me. I figure the tip jar is there and they know what to do. Of course, I don't make my main living in music right now... I might change my mind if it meant making my bills... I have a friend whom I respect a lot, who does hustle the tips more, because he's full-time. Ya gotta eat, I guess. I just prefer more of a soft-sell in my act.--->JMS