I bought a Schecter Omen 6 Diamond Series specifically for drop D tuning. The thing seems to never stay in tune. ... soon as you do a lil bend its outta tune.
Its driving me nuts - can i install locking tuners and will this help the problem or not? Also its a floating bridge ... wondering if that could be the issue - i really dont know (and yes the bridge is on right lol).
I will never buy anything that doesnt say FENDER on it lol. just kidding.
Unless you absolutely need a Floyd all the time, you may want to invest in a Tremel-No. It's a simple floating bridge lock that replaces one of your tremolo springs.
im not sure what the problem is. it seems like the tuners are real touchy - you touch it a smidget and it goes wayyyy out. i swear, play through one song and then im like what the ... and i gotta tune it again.
if it stayed in tune, it would be a decent guitar.
Does this have a trem on it? The Omens I looked at are all string through body, no trem. I have two Schecter Diamond series models (both string through body, no trem) and both hold tune great after I switched from Ernie Ball strings to D'Addarios. I used Ernie Balls for years and was talked into trying the D'Addarios by Terry @ Guitars-n-Stuff. He was right, tuning issue solved plus they last much longer. Does the Omen have Grover tuners? Both of mine do and they seem to hold pretty well. I ran one with 10-46 strings for drop D and the other was 10-52 for 1/2 below drop D.
I know some tuners have a screw on the top of the knob and if you tighten that a smidge the tuners will hold better, least it worked for me on bass anyway.
BadDazeGuitar wrote:Does this have a trem on it? The Omens I looked at are all string through body, no trem. I have two Schecter Diamond series models (both string through body, no trem) and both hold tune great after I switched from Ernie Ball strings to D'Addarios. I used Ernie Balls for years and was talked into trying the D'Addarios by Terry @ Guitars-n-Stuff. He was right, tuning issue solved plus they last much longer. Does the Omen have Grover tuners? Both of mine do and they seem to hold pretty well. I ran one with 10-46 strings for drop D and the other was 10-52 for 1/2 below drop D.
its a string through body. maybe it is the strings - now that ya mention it, it wasnt this bad with tuning until i changed strings. i have fender bullet 10's on it now ... i dont know about the tuners. id have to take a closer look at it.
BadDazeGuitar wrote:Does this have a trem on it? The Omens I looked at are all string through body, no trem. I have two Schecter Diamond series models (both string through body, no trem) and both hold tune great after I switched from Ernie Ball strings to D'Addarios. I used Ernie Balls for years and was talked into trying the D'Addarios by Terry @ Guitars-n-Stuff. He was right, tuning issue solved plus they last much longer. Does the Omen have Grover tuners? Both of mine do and they seem to hold pretty well. I ran one with 10-46 strings for drop D and the other was 10-52 for 1/2 below drop D.
I've used D'Addarios for years,they are the best in my book.
D'Addarios for me too. I have a throw-together guitar that had a set of them on it for 10 years and I abused it almost every day. It also has a floyd and I never had to touch anything but the fine tuners.
I have tried the Fender bullets before and well... they weren't good strings for me.
No trem on this one Chad. You are right on in your thinking if it did have a trem. I had the same problem with both of my Schecters (C1 Elite & C1+), especially the G string not staying in tune. I just figured it was the tuning machines & never thought the Ernie Balls were the problem. I loved the tone & feel of those strings & hell even Slash used them (ha,ha) but once I switched to the D'Addarios that was it. Once in a while a string may hang up in the nut and cause this problem. If using larger gauge strings just have the nut filed out or some guys will use graphite to allow the string to slip through and not hang up.
ahhh ya know what, now that ya mention. when i got it, it had 8's on it. i changed it up to 10's .... maybe thats the deal. im gonna go to 8's and a different brand of strings. hopefully that solves the issue. i will change them this weekend and let ya know what i come up with.
and i bought it used. i cant figure out how to post pics im special like that lol.
i can almost guarantee its the tuners. they probably have a shitty gear ratio and that's why when you turn them you get way out of whack really quick because there is no fine adjustment.
can't go wrong with Sperzels, Grovers, Gotohs, or Planet Waves- all are high quality and have something like a 12:1 gear ratio which is very usuable..
even if they are Grovers on your guitar they may be a shitty version made for Schecter and not the more expensive type. if you ever try locking Sperzels or Planet Waves, you'll never go back. stringing a guitar takes literally five minutes cause you don't have to wind the strings...
I assumed floating bridge meant a Floyd Rose. My bad!
If it's a hardtail, I would try a few other things before bouncing on a new set of tuners. You already tried strings (and of course you know new strings will stretch as you break them in).
I would lubricate the nut slots with graphite powder available at any hardware store. It's usually used to lubricate door locks, so it should be in that section.
If that doesn't work, look into maybe getting the nut slots widened. You can try it yourself with some sand paper, but if you'd rather not, a shop shouldn't take you for more than $20 for something like this.
So, on hardtails, the nut, strings, or tuners are really the only 3 factors on the guitar that would effect the guitar staying in tune.
And just in case, are you taking the guitar back and forth between temperature extremes like indoors to outdoors?
Let us know what the solution was once you find it.
just kidding. 
im special like that lol. 
