Typical Obama Voters?
Typical Obama Voters?
Just found this interesting...
http://howobamagotelected.com/
http://howobamagotelected.com/
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- lonewolf
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Yet another uninformed Obama supporter. Zogby is a well respected international polling company. Its founder and CEO, John Zogby:JackANSI wrote:Just typical conservative media trying to feel good about being on the losing side of things because they ran the country into the ground.
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An interpreter of the political scene, Zogby had a brief stint as an aspiring politician himself in 1981, when he ran unsuccessfully for Mayor of Utica, New York. He describes himself as a Democrat, while his polling firm is "independent and nonpartisan"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Zogby
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Yeaaa. Hardly. Talk about a baseless, uninformed assessment.lonewolf wrote:Yet another uninformed Obama supporter.JackANSI wrote:Just typical conservative media trying to feel good about being on the losing side of things because they ran the country into the ground.
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The people spoke. Obama won. When GWB got elected I felt strongly that he was a man of limited capacity to govern our great Country. I had to bite it and get behind him because part of our country is the process by which he was elected.
here we are. No sense name calling and throwing stones, the deal is what are we going to do to help? Not only to help our elected officials but now we are in a place where every citizen has to think about what we can do to help our Country.
Rather then bicker and resort to name calling we need a post on here entitled
"How to help America by Americans"
How would that post read?
here we are. No sense name calling and throwing stones, the deal is what are we going to do to help? Not only to help our elected officials but now we are in a place where every citizen has to think about what we can do to help our Country.
Rather then bicker and resort to name calling we need a post on here entitled
"How to help America by Americans"
How would that post read?
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Yeah, you're probably right--Jack seems way too smart to be duped by Obama. Sorry Jack.VENTGtr wrote:Yeaaa. Hardly. Talk about a baseless, uninformed assessment.lonewolf wrote:Yet another uninformed Obama supporter.JackANSI wrote:Just typical conservative media trying to feel good about being on the losing side of things because they ran the country into the ground.
But uninformed on the source? Zogby is NOT conservative media. This was a legitimate poll done by a legitimate polling company. Yes, it was a "push poll", but it had equal numbers of negative questions about both sides. In that case, a push poll is legitimate.
They should have done the exact same poll on McCain supportors for comparison...unfortunately, nobody cares about the loser.
...Oh, the freedom of the day that yielded to no rule or time...
I'd say that a great lack of information is a problem with the majority of the electorate.
We got "news" stories for weeks about lapel pins, whether or not Obama was a Muslim,
etc. Why? Because we don't, under any circumstance have a LIBRAL media, we too
often have an apathetic media. THAT'S why you can find more information about us,
that's real, in foreign news sources. Saw an interview about a year or so ago with a
guy from the Guardian UK and he was asked about U.S. MSM "reporting". He said
"Well, show me some and I'll let you know".
I don't discredit Zogby, but the guy who HIRED them deserves to be looked into, and
the fact that he HIRED them, and really just to TRY to add credence to what he's trying
to pull.
I'd also recommend checking out the WSJ article below. It's a traditionally conservative
paper, and even they're saying the guy's a full-o-poop-noodles yutz.
Finally, with Zogby trying to defend the "study", that can hardly be surprising. I've seen
and read many interviews with him and I DO think he, generally, has the best intentions
and tries to do a good thing, but he is also still trying to be at the top of the hill in his
business, so I'd be more surprised to hear him go "Ooh...Ya...Pulled a boner there".
http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/zogbys- ... oters-459/
We got "news" stories for weeks about lapel pins, whether or not Obama was a Muslim,
etc. Why? Because we don't, under any circumstance have a LIBRAL media, we too
often have an apathetic media. THAT'S why you can find more information about us,
that's real, in foreign news sources. Saw an interview about a year or so ago with a
guy from the Guardian UK and he was asked about U.S. MSM "reporting". He said
"Well, show me some and I'll let you know".
I don't discredit Zogby, but the guy who HIRED them deserves to be looked into, and
the fact that he HIRED them, and really just to TRY to add credence to what he's trying
to pull.
I'd also recommend checking out the WSJ article below. It's a traditionally conservative
paper, and even they're saying the guy's a full-o-poop-noodles yutz.
Finally, with Zogby trying to defend the "study", that can hardly be surprising. I've seen
and read many interviews with him and I DO think he, generally, has the best intentions
and tries to do a good thing, but he is also still trying to be at the top of the hill in his
business, so I'd be more surprised to hear him go "Ooh...Ya...Pulled a boner there".
http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/zogbys- ... oters-459/
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tornandfrayed wrote:The people spoke. Obama won. When GWB got elected I felt strongly that he was a man of limited capacity to govern our great Country. I had to bite it and get behind him because part of our country is the process by which he was elected.
I Concur 100%. Lets get on with it and quit all the crybaby name calling.
Some people are willing to ruin friendships over this stuff which is ridiculous.
I am sure everybody has had their turn of not getting the President you voted for elected so do like we all do and suck it up already and quit trying to be a negative influence because most people do not care for it and just want to work forward in a positive manner!
Everything in life is a perspective and that does not mean yours is always the right one.
Unless of course you are one of those special people who are always right.

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IMHO Everybody is entitled to ownership of an opinion just like the one above but just because I have one does not mean I am right.deathdealer1000 wrote:Just Remember People Those Who Voted For Obama You Think You Won! ALL YOU DID WAS WEAKEN A NATION!!
Look at history to see how many people thought they were doing the right thing for their country by their own perspective and it turned out they were dead wrong probably due to a lot of propaganda. As smart as we sometimes like to think we are it does not turn out to be that way all the time.
Example: Nazi Germany?
Fortunately for us we have some power to change things. So if you are right and this doesn't work out we can elect another President etc...
Besides doesn't it take a good 8 years to thoroughly drive a country into the ground?
As far as a strong nation I have never seen things this bad in 25 years BTW that is 25 adult years.
Once again though just an opinion.
I think opinions are great except when they insult, ruin friendships or hurt other people. In which case they don't mean anything at all.
IMHO

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How legitimate is the poll if they didn't do both sides? I akin that to measuring the temperature of a pot handle and using that to determine that its safe to touch the surface over the burner.lonewolf wrote:Yeah, you're probably right--Jack seems way too smart to be duped by Obama. Sorry Jack.
But uninformed on the source? Zogby is NOT conservative media. This was a legitimate poll done by a legitimate polling company. Yes, it was a "push poll", but it had equal numbers of negative questions about both sides. In that case, a push poll is legitimate.
They should have done the exact same poll on McCain supportors for comparison...unfortunately, nobody cares about the loser.
Or like saying the entire planet's surface is X degrees without measuring the dark side of it.

And Yes, I actually voted for Obama. The Republican party needs to get its freaking head straight to win me back.
(I don't care what diatribe you can lay on the opponent. I want to know what the hell YOU stand for. They just didn't get that across, or as it seemed to me, didn't care about that, just defacing someone else. The world has enough of that garbage. I find it offensive that they thought it would appeal to me as a voter to be scared to vote for someone else rather than be glad to vote for them.)
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While I am not entirely sold on Rick Wertz being a modern day Jesus I mean come on here folks! While there are numerous similarities that is a pretty tall order to fill!!!!bassist_25 wrote:"He is the modern day Jesus of our time" - Kent on Rick Wertz
I will say this, Rick is the closest thing Altoona has to a Rock Star!
So lets give credit where credit is due and not over do it. OK?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!VENTGtr wrote: Why? Because we don't, under any circumstance have a LIBRAL media, we too
often have an apathetic media.
The Washington post and New York Times admitted they were liberal, and the Washington post admitted to stumping for Obama more than for McCain ... The media in this country is more liberal than ever and Obama is the chosen one; the media darling - He is the Saviour as far as they are concerned. We will see just how much of a Saviour he is in the next couple of years.
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Thats fine they made a video about this, im not here to disagree that there were a lot of uneducated voters for obama. I'd like to see a video with the same questions asked to the people who voted for McCain. No matter where you go or what party you voted for, there is always going to be uneducated people out there voting. Its just proven, you can't tell me that all the hick/redneck hunters didn't vote for McCain just because they believe Obama would have taken their guns. As well as for the fact obama is black and can't get over it. Thats the only things those breed of people care about.
As for Obama pretty much all the blacks voted for him. I believe 95% did or around there, which in turn i believe is total bullshit as well. I go to PSU and had a racial relations project, involving me and 3 black women. I got to the question of why did 95% of blacks vote for Obama, and the answer they gave me was, "change". Which i about lost it, because here again we have UNEDUCATED people, and these people are in college? I later asked, so if Obama was white, and McCain was black, you would still vote for Obama? And they said absolutely, I about smacked a bitched. Dumb people............. In turn this country is full of fucking retards, they are everywhere.
As for Obama pretty much all the blacks voted for him. I believe 95% did or around there, which in turn i believe is total bullshit as well. I go to PSU and had a racial relations project, involving me and 3 black women. I got to the question of why did 95% of blacks vote for Obama, and the answer they gave me was, "change". Which i about lost it, because here again we have UNEDUCATED people, and these people are in college? I later asked, so if Obama was white, and McCain was black, you would still vote for Obama? And they said absolutely, I about smacked a bitched. Dumb people............. In turn this country is full of fucking retards, they are everywhere.
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