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So I have this 89 HM strat, hate the fuck out of the neck. Its got some strange 3 bolt setup on the neck/body. I have this hondo neck I'd like to use, love the fact its lacquered and shorter (21 frets, HM neck has 24)

Will the hondo neck be alright on the HM body with only three bolts? will switching from that 24 fret neck to the 21 screw anything up? The body has a khaler spyder on it, what can I do to the hardware so that it stays in tune better?

I want to put 10's or higher on this (im used to 8's), and will need to put all 5 springs in the back of the trem id imagine.

Uhm... any thoughts here before I butcher everything? lol
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Sell the HM Strat to someone who will appreciate it and use the proceeds to get what you want.
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More than likely the 21 fret to 24 fret swap won't work. The fit of the neck pocket will probably be messed up too.
Is it the HM Strat that Joe posted pictures of?
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The Shadow wrote:Sell the HM Strat to someone who will appreciate it and use the proceeds to get what you want.
I second the motion. The HM is a nice shredding guitar out of the box and was never meant to be a standard strat.

But if you insist on this, you should make sure that the Hondo neck is the same scale as the HM which is 25.15". I would be surprised if they were.
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Ron: No, this is a different one. Mines pretty much in damn good condition, lol. Its the only guitar I ever really use, so there'd be pix in the JP recaps (just search "Colton")

Shadow: I do appreciate this guitar. Its been my one and only for years and years, ever since I started to play out. I had one gig in my life without this guitar, and the more I think about it, the more I want to keep it, but I dont like this neck. Yes its built for shredding, hence the 24/thin neck, but it feels too flimsy when I try to bend it guitar in half. I've been looking at tons of strats, talking to tons of people about them, but I really want to keep this guitar, but its gotta change.



Another note: I havent even been able to find a picture of a guitar thats exactly like mine. Mine has double humbuckers, 3 way, one volume, one tone, and a series/parallel switch. The finish is black, with tiny tiny silver splats on it. It glows green in a blacklight. Nothing on the guitar makes it seem like it was modified at all from the way it came.

I mean I've looked and looked and looked at a million pictures of HM's, theres just nothing like this one, which leads me to believe it may be from the custom shop. But then again, im not the sharpest tool in the shed...

If anyone knows alot of these HM's, start spillin the beans, I'd like to know all I could about this one.




Oh, and I'd never sell it for anything, but I cant afford to buy a real Strat, and Felix wont give me his, haha

(He let me take that home one night to jam on till the next gig they had. You should have seen the look on his face that night when I was returning it, when I told him I cleaned it, painted it, and put 8's on it)


I'd even put together a Strat piece by piece out of old dirty parts, if only I could find enough real fender strat parts. Startin lookin in your junk piles guys!
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Colton wrote: I'd even put together a Strat piece by piece out of old dirty parts, if only I could find enough real fender strat parts. Startin lookin in your junk piles guys!
I was looking through a mess a buddy of mine had in his attic. I found a Squire Strat that was just desroyed, no pups or strings, the top horn was cracked off the body and also found a Fender Strat that had looked like someone tried to strip to re-paint and just got bored. I gave him like $10 for ALL the parts, I then mixed and matched until I had a guitar put together. I put some Slinky's on it and it (I call it FrankenFender) hold a tune pretty well. I'd like to replace the pick-ups in it, my buddy swears they are the original Fender pups but they look to cheesy to be just that.

So, anyone got some pups laying around collecting dust...I'm accepting donations, LATER!!!

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Here young Skywalker, construct your own:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0322327156

The guy says $50, and he'll pay shipping. You can get Strypeez at Wal-Mart for about $8.

As for the HM...if the finish looks like this, it is stock. Also, check the serial number. If it begins with E7, E8, E9, N0, N1 or N2, it is stock.

I have had 5 of these in the past, but they were all HSS configs. They also made single and double humbucker versions of them with the coil-split switch:

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Colton lemmy know what you want done and I'll do it for free. I'm bored and need something to do.

PS 21 and 22 fret Strat necks will interchange.
You will not be able to use a 24 fret neck on a 21-22 fret body without modifications to the neck pocket or changing the bridge location, even though they share the same 25.5" scale length, the neck heel on the 24 fret neck is longer and will therefore change the scale length to probably 26.5" or something similar.

Call me and I'll hook you up.
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Post by seven_star_customz »

probably not. check the length from the nut to the 12 fret then check from the 12 fret to your bridge. they have to match.
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Thanks Joe, but I might have another idea in mind here, most likely for you to work on...

I'm terrified to sell anything. All I've ever heard from every musician I've ever met is "I wish I didnt sell my XXXX". So... terrified lol... I'd like to keep this guitar around the way it is in case I need it for some quick stuff. I realized it'd be about impossible to learn any more satch if i didnt have a guitar like this laying around.

So, the new plan may be this....

Find stratocaster body. Strip. Stain. (ohh, that sounds perrdy). Put this neck from the hondo on it (love that neck), put that floyd you gave me into it, put that humbucker and single coil back into it (maybe work that lipstick into a center position, have the hum on the bridge and single on the neck), put a 5 way, coil tap the bucker, and load the back up with as many fuckin springs as we can fit into it so the damn floyd actually resets to its original position when you let go (never seen one in my life do that yet, lol). And last, but not least, get a good set of locking tuners and an LSR roller nut.

If ANYONE has any of this laying around and is willing to part lemme know... or knows of a good cheap place to get'm,

So far I'll need:

Strat body, pref not a squire. (might talk felix into cuttin me one, whats the heaviest damn chunk of wood you can get? lol)
LSR Roller
Locking tuners



Kinda off topic, but also looking for a compressor stomp box. Talk about a miracle when plugged into my princeton!
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Post by metalchurch »

Sounds cool.
There's nothing at all wrong with a Squier body, or a Mexican Strat body.
Other than finish there is Zero difference between a Squier or a Mexi to a USA Strat. Trust me, it's the neck, finish, and hardware that makes the difference.

If you have one made try to get Alder, cause most strats were made of that wood.

The LSR and locking tuners are a must have unless we put a locking nut on that, but of course ya already have one HM Strat... :lol:
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You will still have problems putting that neck on a strat body . the neckpocket will need adjusted and or bridge to match the scale as most strat bodies will be 25 and a half inch scale. I can probably hook you up with a new body built from ash which will be way heavier than alder. I would need the neck to route it for the neck and particular scale. But it all depends on how much money you want to spend.
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Post by metalchurch »

Colton's Hondo Strat is a 25.5" scale, so that neck will work on a Squier or a Strat body.
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