MP3's and the poor penniless bastards who love them...

Dark Soul · Post by **Dark Soul** » Friday Oct 17, 2008

Besides torrents and Usenet, where does everyone like to get their mp3's from? Is there a good p2p prog out there that won't shove malware down my throat?

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Friday Oct 17, 2008

Amazon. I purchase the CD.

I used to download it but since I have a job I buy CDs.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Friday Oct 17, 2008

bfoust wrote:Amazon. I purchase the CD.

I used to download it but since I have a job I buy CDs.

what dose that mean? and why would i buy the cd when i can get it for nothing and i have a job too!!!!!!!!!

Dark Soul · Post by **Dark Soul** » Friday Oct 17, 2008

bfoust wrote:Amazon. I purchase the CD.

I used to download it but since I have a job I buy CDs.

I'm sorry if it bothers you that people download mp3's but, frankly, I don't care. I made this thread to ask about good places to download mp3's, not start a debate about the right and wrong of it. If that's what you want to do then start your own thread.

Now that we've got that out of the way...any helpful suggestions?

KyleMayket · Post by **KyleMayket** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

no, honestly they all have malware and bullcrap like that. I exclusively use utorrent, and I freakin' love it!

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

How did you infer that it bothers me that you download mp3s? I personally don't care what you do, I'm just saying I buy CDs.. I used to download mp3s.. but I don't anymore.

Mainly, because I only buy cheap CDs (~9.99 per CD on Amazon)... Thus I don't feel like I'm getting ripped off.

Does that work for you?

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

I sometimes download music, that's either really hard to find, or way too expensive to buy.

I love to download music mainly as a preview, then I decide on whether I want to buy it or not. It's much easier doing that as opposed to buying an album based on it's cover and then gettin home and I don't like it.

Some of the mp3 and torrent quality is not the greatest, but if it's a song or a band I really like, then to me it's just a tit to suck on 'till I get the real deal.

I have downloaded more than enough and have kept it, back when I was making the transition from analog to digital, so the way I look at it is that I already bought the music once, as opposed to those who have never bought it. Not that it justifies my actions, but it sounds good and make me feel better inside.

The one reason I do feel bad is that it's taking money from my fav bands, but one gotta wonder how much money they actually receive?

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

I got on Limewire the other day for the first time in maybe 2 years... it still sucked, only worse. There are a lot fewer people on their network now, and your song selection is much crappier.
I long for the halcyon days of Napster, when everybody under the age of 30 who had a computer had about 500 songs in their shared-file. I could get obscure 70-year-old recordings taken from 78 RPM records, excellent blues and old-time stuff, previously unheard bootlegs, old radio shows, every obscure Euro-metal song ever, ahhhh, those were the days. Just once more for old time's sake: F*CK THE RIAA!!!

------->JMS

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

Soulseek. been using it for 5 or 6 YEARS... and never went anywhere else for music.
never any bs. its not like limewire or the other ones.

www.slsknet.org

enjoy

orangekick · Post by **orangekick** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

I download everything through soulseek first. I used to be the guy that would willingly go into a store and buy a cd just because the band name sounded cool. That doesn't work out any more. So many bands have been putting out mediocre albums that buying the cds isn't worth it. I have actually deleted more cds than I would care to mention.

Dark Soul · Post by **Dark Soul** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

bfoust wrote:How did you infer that it bothers me that you download mp3s? I personally don't care what you do, I'm just saying I buy CDs.. I used to download mp3s.. but I don't anymore.

Mainly, because I only buy cheap CDs (~9.99 per CD on Amazon)... Thus I don't feel like I'm getting ripped off.

I asked about p2p software for downloading mp3's and your reply is to state that you prefer to buy CD's since you have a job which has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand. How does that help me? It doesn't. My take on it was that you were being a smartass, and obviously I'm not the only one because Deathdealer1000 got the same impression.

What "works for me" is if you either stick to the topic at hand or shut up.

Songsmith: Hell yea! F*CK the RIAA. F*ck 'em in the ear. F*ck 'em in the other ear.

AwakenedDrummer: Thanks, man. I'll check that out.

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

http://www.p2pon.com/guides/a-list-of-p ... g-methods/

or

http://en.softonic.com/windows/p2p-clients

or

http://www.google.com/Top/Computers/Sof ... e_Sharing/

It's kinda ironic that musicians download illegally off other musicians.. Isn't it a fantastic world?

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

I got the same impression too, Darksoul.

to bfoust- Its kind of ironic that...well, nevermind.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

Personally, I'm a fan of Limewire. I know that some people don't dig it, but it's always been very consistent for me. I've used eMule too, but I found it very frustrating.

I know that this is not the point of the thread - and I hope I don't get crucified for it - but I also prefer purchasing an album. I'm just old school like that. I enjoy the album as a whole artistic experience. I'm not getting into the ethical implications of downloading, the economics of allowing your music to be downloaded versus money made on touring, or anything like that. I'm just talking about holding a physical piece of media. I moved up to Indiana for grad school, and there's this record store that I've been wanting to stop into. I finally went in this past Tuesday to look for the new Unearth record. They didn't have the new album yet, so I found a used Dream Theater album instead. I told the clerk that it was really cool to see a record store like this still in existence. We chatted for a while. He told me that the Dream Theater album was a good choice. He gave me a promo card for a show he was playing. The whole experience was awesome and is just something that I feel like we're losing as music fans and music consumers.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

Sure, man, there's a lot to be said for holding the product in your hands, and I still would rather buy something I really like. In fact, it's my preference. My problem is with the industry itself. Art as a commodity, reducing it to nothing more than having Seagram's in your investment portfolio. Put the music out yourself, who the hell needs the Machine to take every dime until you sell gold, then take 97% of it?
The Napster model put the art in the fan's hands, made touring and merch very lucrative, and eliminated the fatcats who know and care zero about the art they sell. How awesome is that?------->JMS

Gorian · Post by **Gorian** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

As others have said, Soulseek has been the most reliable for me, and if I can't find something there I try to use Ares if it connects, which has been rarely these days. Also have used project playlist website, where if you click on 'visit site' after the song title, you can usually find a link to the mp3.

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

songsmith wrote: The Napster model put the art in the fan's hands, made touring and merch very lucrative, and eliminated the fatcats who know and care zero about the art they sell. How awesome is that?------->JMS

Ok. that's fine as long as the artists get paid directly... I no longer believe in simply downloading music for free.

I know the current industry is f'ked up, with everyone but the band getting the money (except tours i guess?) but a lot of crap is f'ked up in this world I guess.

Dark Soul · Post by **Dark Soul** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

It's kinda ironic that musicians download illegally off other musicians.. Isn't it a fantastic world?

I knew that one was coming...

That's a narrow-minded way to look at it. There are plenty of perfectly legal applications for the trading of music files online. There is music that's public domain like classical that isn't illegal to download. Some bands openly encourage people to download their music for free if they want to, so downloading their music isn't ripping them off. And there's nothing illegal about downloading music that you've already paid for in the past. Many times I've downloaded music I already paid for because the CD was damaged or the tape wore out, and I refuse to pay for an album twice unless I have no choice.

And by the way...you just contradicted yourself. You said before you didn't care if people download mp3's, but apparently you do considering the quote above and this one:

I no longer believe in simply downloading music for free.

Sounds to me like it bothers you quite a bit. I'd have more respect for you if you just came out and admitted you think it's wrong. Which, to be honest, I can understand. I don't blame musicians at all for feeling ripped off when people download their music without paying for it.

But as I said, not all mp3's are illegal. Also, and this is just my opinion, I see nothing wrong with downloading an album of music with the intention of listening to it to see if it's worth buying the CD. I think CD's are overpriced and if I'm going to pay for a disc of music, I want to know what I'm getting before I pay for it, especially considering that, most of the time, a CD of new music has maybe two or three good songs on it at best.

Another thing I'd like to point out is the fact that artists generally don't make that much money from album sales. Most of their money comes from touring, merchandising deals and other things. So even if you do download a CD of music for free, you're not really ripping the artist off. You're ripping off the record labels who are corrupt as it is and frankly I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over that.

witchhunt · Post by **witchhunt** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

songsmith wrote:I got on Limewire the other day for the first time in maybe 2 years... it still sucked, only worse. There are a lot fewer people on their network now, and your song selection is much crappier.

The last 2 times I tried LW, my virus scan went ballistic.

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Saturday Oct 18, 2008

witchhunt wrote:
songsmith wrote:I got on Limewire the other day for the first time in maybe 2 years... it still sucked, only worse. There are a lot fewer people on their network now, and your song selection is much crappier.
The last 2 times I tried LW, my virus scan went ballistic.

Must have been from those "movies" huh?

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Sunday Oct 19, 2008

I would use bit torrent over p2p programs any day. I'd be sure to ALWAYS run a program like peer guardian to block FBI/Police.

that's what I would do anyways..

crazyeights · Post by **crazyeights** » Sunday Oct 19, 2008

Sometimes I download if I'm having a hard time finding something rare. It is much easier now that we are in the information age to find practically anything we desire at the convienence of our finger tips.
I do wonder how much the artists are losing out, but I think that the potential fan base generated by the music being accessable might compensate for any loss, as opposed to it not being heard at all.

It's a touchy subject with alot of gray area which can be perceived from differing points of view.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sunday Oct 19, 2008

So... Where is a good site that I can download music? I have a job and DON'T BUY C.D.'s. I have kids and diapers are more of a need. But I NEED music, so I download the shit. I was using LimeWire, but some of you have me spooked on using it. Anyway, metalchurch will you hip me up a little bit? Maybe I'll try this soulseek thing........Later!!!

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Sunday Oct 19, 2008

witchhunt wrote: The last 2 times I tried LW, my virus scan went ballistic.

That worries me. Mine didn't miss a beat. I did do a virus scan later, and found 3 Trojans, they came out fairly easily, but one was a keylogger, and the other 2 were spambots. It worries me because my antivirus should have caught them before they went in.

I don't want to give the impression that I don't buy music. I often buy local CD's, and the occasional national as well, because I like holding a new CD in my hand. It signifies ownership, I guess. I'm just not into Universal Entertainment Group or whoever. If I buy direct from the artist, like locals, I know they're getting the bulk of the money. I'm really into keeping the price of the music low, and the price of live performance a bit higher, then the artist has more control.----->JMS

witchhunt · Post by **witchhunt** » Sunday Oct 19, 2008

I just got the new version of Azureus and it works good. Whole different look to get used to.