The Hitler (er....Obama) Youth

[Banned]

If a bunch of white kids did this for McCain, wouldn't they be labeled skinheads or white supremacists or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8

[KyleMayket]

wow, creepy. But something tells me that Obama really doesn't have anything to do with this. But maybe they're inner-city kids, who wouldn't have any dreams, aspirations, or something to look up to. Obama is kinda letting them know, that if you work hard, try to better yourself, you can do anything that you want, as they said, be an architect, a lawyer, and entrepreneur, hell even president. It's a good lesson done in a "bass- akwards" kinda way. Someone took a good idea and twisted it. I hate to say it, but kinda like Hitler, when he got into power, he was all about "National pride" and that's why everyone got behind him, then he progressively got more crazy and everyone kinda followed him with that...oops.

[Hawk]

If a bunch of white kids did this for McCain, wouldn't they be labeled skinheads or white supremacists or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8

Tying that to Hitler is an outright sin. They are inspired by Obama. Not going to go out and kill Jews for him.

It is reprehensible for anyone to make such far reaching accusations in order to instill fear ! Shame on you.

[Banned]

Bill, shame on you for not understanding how Hitler inspired a youth movement in Germany. To the children, it was all about German pride in the beginning. This is starting out innocent, but we have history to show us how these things can possibly turn out.

To pretend this does not have a creepy relationship to the early Hitler Youth movement is to ignore reality and history.

[Hawk]

Bill, shame on you for not understanding how Hitler inspired a youth movement in Germany. To the children, it was all about German pride in the beginning. This is starting out innocent, but we have history to show us how these things can possibly turn out.

To pretend this does not have a creepy relationship to the early Hitler Youth movement is to ignore reality and history.

I've studied the Hitler movement very well and converse regally with a former history teacher and a former resident of East Germany. I am German. Mu grandfathers fought for Germany in WW I and their sons fought for the USA in WW II.

The Hitler youth were indoctrinated from a very early age. They were taught what the Third Reich wanted to teach them. Hitler was a savior - a god - to be followed no matter the consequences. And there were thousands. They were even bred like dogs, so as to have pure blood.

These kids are not espousing HATE Joe ! These kids are expressing Hope.

Shame on you Joe ! Hitler was perhaps the meanest killer in all of modern history and you want to take down these kids because they are inspired !

It is you who are a menace, a menace to spread such bull shit in today's society.

Shame on you !

[Banned]

It is a badge of honor to be shamed by the most closed minded liberal in Central Pa.

They did not start teaching hatred to the Hitler Youth. They were taken in by a Germanic pride movement. Hitler youth did not run the Jewish death camps Hawk.

These Hussein Obama youth are full of pride in Obama. Nowhere did I imply that they are being taught to hate anyone. That was your assumption.

Do you think that blacks would be a little apprehensive if they saw a video of white skin heads doing the same type of thing for a white candidate? Hell yes they would, the ACLU lawsuits would already be filed.

[Hawk]

It is a badge of honor to be shamed by the most closed minded liberal in Central Pa.

They did not start teaching hatred to the Hitler Youth. They were taken in by a Germanic pride movement. Hitler youth did not run the Jewish death camps Hawk.

These Hussein Obama youth are full of pride in Obama. Nowhere did I imply that they are being taught to hate anyone. That was your assumption.

Do you think that blacks would be a little apprehensive if they saw a video of white skin heads doing the same type of thing for a white candidate? Hell yes they would, the ACLU lawsuits would already be filed.

Joe , are you a racist ? Tying them to the name of Hitler infers HATE. How foolish are you ?

Tying them to Hitler , the most evil man you can think of - a racist, is horrible.

I remember the Bishop Guilfoyle girls basket ball team wearing shirts and chanting for Consiglio when he was running for DA. Where is your video of them and the ties to Hitler ?

How about the boy scouts ?

I've been around blacks in big cities when I grew up. I hung around with them and respected them. We would go to parades in big cities and meet them over and over. They would march in military fashion but with a jive rhythm that was so cool ! Their pride in what they were doing was contagious. ROTC

You have never pissed me off as much as you have in this thread. And you have exposed yourself for what you are.

Closed minded Liberal who likes a lot of Ron Paul says ? A closed minded liberal who tries to tell you Libertarians to introduce your plans in small increments because they won't go over in big doses ? A closed minded liberal who is against gun control ? A closed minded liberal who is against abortion ?You've been exposed by an open minded human being who sees you for the blind man you are.

Racism IS your theme of this thread. I believe in free speech, but I don't believe in spewing inferences that these blacks are like the Hitler youth. this thread should be removed for the racist content you spew !

Shame on you !

[PanzerFaust]

Yea I see why this could be compared to the HJ as well...
Like that's a bad thing?

The HJ weren't about hate they were about pride in your people, your country and your leader.... Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer. All positive beliefs in any country in any era.. pure and simple...

I could write a thesis on why there's a valid comparison but why bother?

If peoples' beliefs could be changed by a post on Rockpage then God help us all.....

And no offense Hawk, but how in God's name does what your grandfather did lend credence to your opinion? My grandfather was a poor, alcoholic, coal miner from Lilly PA.... Does that negate the 9 years of undergrad and grad studies I've completed at Penn State? God help us if it does....

Now "How about them Cowboys"?...

Oh and P.S. Many people also compare the Boy Scouts the the HJ which I also feel is a valid comparison.. And being a B.G.H.S. grad, I better pass on the Consiglio comment hehe...

[mjb]

Yea I see why this could be compared to the HJ as well...
Like that's a bad thing?

The HJ weren't about hate they were about pride in your people, your country and your leader.... Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer. All positive beliefs in any country in any era.. pure and simple...

I could write a thesis on why there's a valid comparison but why bother?

If peoples' beliefs could be changed by a post on Rockpage then God help us all.....

And no offense Hawk, but how in God's name does what your grandfather did lend credence to your opinion? My grandfather was a poor, alcoholic, coal miner from Lilly PA.... Does that negate the 9 years of undergrad and grad studies I've completed at Penn State? God help us if it does....

Now "How about them Cowboys"?...


Oh and P.S. Many people also compare the Boy Scouts the the HJ which I also feel is a valid comparison.. And being a B.G.H.S. grad, I better pass on the Consiglio comment hehe...

+ he doesn't even like kolbasa and saurkraut!

[Banned]

Bill, are you dim-witted? If I were not so amused by your rants, I might think you were making this personal.

Why do you always take the socialist, politically correct view of everything.

There IS a difference between racial awareness and racism. Supporting democrat candidates because they provide more welfare to black voters is racist. Your endless socialist rants demanding more of our hard earned money for the "needy" just disgusts me.

Your answer to every problem in this country is more government. Yet you seem to be very upset when called comrade. You can't be for an authoritarian socialist government and pretend that you are far from communism.

You love it when Big government takes away our freedoms (oh...just like the Nazis did). Just because you are not intelligent to see the connection to this Obama youth movement video and the Hitler youth movement of German pride, you want to banish it. How very Nazi, want to burn some books too, Hawk

[metalchurch]

Inspiration is one of the greatest parts of living, but not everyone is inspired by the same which makes us all unique, which is another beauty of life.

[PanzerFaust]

What!! Doesn't even eat the Weinerschnitzel!!! Ach Du Liebe!!! Mein Gott in Himmel!!! hehe..

Serious I know better then to get involved in some posts but I couldn't resist..

You know my avatar is the 12th SS division emblem.. the Hitler Jungend division that fought so bravely against for one, my uncle, on the beaches of Normandy...
Just cause they didn't represent my beliefs doesn't mean I can't be in awe of their dedication and sacrafice... Christ look at all the people that dress up as Confederates and re-enact Civil War battles every weekend.. Think they all believe in slavery? or are they just honoring the dedication the soliders had about their beliefs....

Oh and yes my GGGrandfather was a Union solider wounded at Gettysburg and captured by the CSA.. So my credentials are impecciable !! hehe....

[bfoust]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p8tLtiTW-M

http://obamaganda.weebly.com/


These parents need to be punished for turning their children into propaganda machines

[Hawk]

Bill, are you dim-witted? If I were not so amused by your rants, I might think you were making this personal.

Why do you always take the socialist, politically correct view of everything.

There IS a difference between racial awareness and racism. Supporting democrat candidates because they provide more welfare to black voters is racist. Your endless socialist rants demanding more of our hard earned money for the "needy" just disgusts me.

Your answer to every problem in this country is more government. Yet you seem to be very upset when called comrade. You can't be for an authoritarian socialist government and pretend that you are far from communism.

You love it when Big government takes away our freedoms (oh...just like the Nazis did). Just because you are not intelligent to see the connection to this Obama youth movement video and the Hitler youth movement of German pride, you want to banish it. How very Nazi, want to burn some books too, Hawk

It is YOU who inferred these kids were like the Hitler youth. That is a very negative connotation and you know it.

Your inference that "what if whites did this" indicates you are annoyed that blacks did this ! It is personal and you are a fucking racist !

The big government - We've been down that road. But that's not the subject of this despicable thread.

[Banned]

It is usually the very shallow minded who yell racist when they cannot win an argument.

Would you be ok with a group of skinheads doing a military display promoting a conservative white politician because he understands their whiteness?????????

You are worse than a racist, you are the first to use the race card when you cannot understand or win an argument, comrade.

For you not to see the comparison to the Hitler youth movement is just displaying you limited intellect.

[Hawk]

It is usually the very shallow minded who yell racist when they cannot win an argument.

Would you be ok with a group of skinheads doing a military display promoting a conservative white politician because he understands their whiteness?????????

You are worse than a racist, you are the first to use the race card when you cannot understand or win an argument, comrade.

For you not to see the comparison to the Hitler youth movement is just displaying you limited intellect.

No, it takes great effort to call a racist a racist. If I saw a group of white youth chanting "Drill baby drill" ....well, I have. They were at a McCain Rally. No, you are wrong, they didn't seem like Hitler youth at all.

Why aren't you comparing every youth movement to Hitler youth ? Why does it only bother you when they are black ?

That is the answer to what I see you as a racist.

To paraphrase you. For you not to see the comparison to the Hitler movement - with any organized youth movement - is just displaying your racism.

Are you annoyed that it was military like only ? No - because it is you who played the race card first ! Read what you write.

And your sole purpose was to inflict fear. Fear of what Joe ? Blacks ?

[slackin@dabass]

wow. lots and lots of awsome debate in this thread!!

i can see the comparison, but i don't think it's in the same vein as hitler youth was. and the boy scouts? i can't see the comparison so much. of course that's from the standpoint that the boy scouts are run by the mormans and the government helps to fund and also creates giant breaks for the organization. love that seperation of church and state .

[Gallowglass]

Actually, comparing these kids (or the boy scouts, but that's a different topic...) to the HJ is pretty valid in my book, except these kids could use a dose of the HJ's physical fitness program. I don't care what color they are, this is the typical "cult of personality" type of shit that seems to always associate itself with totalitarian type personalities. This also would have been right at home in Stalinist U.S.S.R., Idi Amin's Uganda (except they would have been wearing kilts), or the aforementioned Nazi Germany. I think it's scary. Btw, the taxpayers paid for that shit in Chicago... despicable.

[Skate Toad]

I don't think it's ok to make kid's spew off things they know nothing about because their parents forced them too. If those kid's really were into his message then cool good for them. I feel it's no different then telling your kid's to love the steelers, penn state, the bears, the donkies etc etc. I hate when parents turn there kid's into sheep. I think it's ridiculous to call it rascism from the Obama side. Hell you want to say that look at how much is coming from the McCain side. Can we get to the important stuff and skip the name calling and who is more racist than the other. Both sides are tied up in it and thats a shame when people are dying in a dumb war and people are starving and loosing homes and jobs right here.
My two cents

[lonewolf]

If a bunch of white kids did this for McCain, wouldn't they be labeled skinheads or white supremacists or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8

Tying that to Hitler is an outright sin.

You are right Hawk...Hitler wasn't a lawyer.

[Hawk]

Are these the "other" Hitler like youth you were talking about ? Wow, they are scarry too. They are young and have an opinion. What do we do now ?

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?v ... d5f515e545

Or do you just dislike any youth who disagrees with you. Sorry, I couldn't find anyone cheering for Ron Paul.

[Gallowglass]

Are these the "other" Hitler like youth you were talking about ? Wow, they are scarry too. They are young and have an opinion. What do we do now ?

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?v ... d5f515e545

Or do you just dislike any youth who disagrees with you. Sorry, I couldn't find anyone cheering for Ron Paul.

I find that video pretty scary, but mostly because they're just idiots. I think there is definitely a difference in the tone of the presentation, note the lack of military paraphernalia or references to "whiteness" as a motivating factor in forming their opinions. I'm also guessing that that demonstration was put on by private funding, as opposed to the state funding of groups like the HJ & the Obama lads.

[slackin@dabass]

Are these the "other" Hitler like youth you were talking about ? Wow, they are scarry too. They are young and have an opinion. What do we do now ?

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?v ... d5f515e545

Or do you just dislike any youth who disagrees with you. Sorry, I couldn't find anyone cheering for Ron Paul.

actually i find that more like (but without the willingness to kill yourself for it) muslim extremists but then again i've always seen religion that way

[Banned]

Update:

The teacher at the middle school that released the Obama Youth march video was suspended.

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/News ... geId=3.2.1

I wonder how taxpayers at that school district feel about how their limited tax dollars are spent?

[Hawk]

My apoligies to anyone I offended.

I still don't like the comparison to Hitler youth, but I crossed the line in my over zealousness to defend the kids who were put in the middle of this unfortunate situation.

Bill