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CredoSpeek · Post by **CredoSpeek** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

I just watched this video online and wow i can't believe our own govt was the ones who did this. a president and his friends killing over 3000 of his own people to have an excuse to start a war. this should be punishable by death they should really hang this guy for what he did. not to mention what this has cost this country. watch this video and it will change your life.

Bag · Post by **Bag** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

It should be called "Loose Marbles."

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

Do yourself a favor and check out the Loose Change Viewers Guide:

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

Loose Change = epic BS.

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

People who seriously believe this amaze me.

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

saw this like 2 years ago. dug it

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

it's not a bad movie if you like complete works of fiction. that's all it is. even the creators of that mess admit it wasn't factual at all.

definatly watch it with the viewers guide.

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

If the producers of this movie printed in/on the dvd that "this is a work of fiction." Then what I'm about to say next is null and void. This is going to be outlandish, but here's the whole fucking scary bit. Nobody really knows any work fact,or fiction about 9/11 to be true or false. Same with a lot of other things. People have what and how things happend on 9/11 in their heads already. They believe what they want to. To say who believes this crap is crazy or whoever, even, in their own mind passes judgement on someone for what they believe in and how they hold it dear to them. That's just straight elitism, and that, to me, is something that mankind can do without! Or should I say needs to do without.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

Lifer wrote:People have what and how things happend on 9/11 in their heads already. They believe what they want to. To say who believes this crap is crazy or whoever, even, in their own mind passes judgement on someone for what they believe in and how they hold it dear to them.

To bust out the famous quote, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but they aren't entitled to their own facts.

JakeWilliams · Post by **JakeWilliams** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

CredoSpeek wrote:I just watched this video online and wow i can't believe our own govt was the ones who did this. a president and his friends killing over 3000 of his own people to have an excuse to start a war. this should be punishable by death they should really hang this guy for what he did. not to mention what this has cost this country. watch this video and it will change your life.

What video? Where's the link?

JakeWilliams · Post by **JakeWilliams** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

I didn't know it was that popular... Just go to youtube.com and search for Loose Change...there's 20 clips.

Probably should have done that before I asked where the clip was.

DrumAndDestroy · Post by **DrumAndDestroy** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

definitely entertaining

Charltor · Post by **Charltor** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

DirtySanchez wrote:People who seriously believe this amaze me.

thats's what you said about midget transexuals.

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Friday Sep 12, 2008

Some of those Conspiracy theorists make me laugh, cause they're so fuckin lame. If you let them they will make you a believer.....that's what Black Sabbath did to me when I was younger, now look at me.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Saturday Sep 13, 2008

Lifer wrote:If the producers of this movie printed in/on the dvd that "this is a work of fiction." Then what I'm about to say next is null and void. This is going to be outlandish, but here's the whole fucking scary bit. Nobody really knows any work fact,or fiction about 9/11 to be true or false. Same with a lot of other things. People have what and how things happend on 9/11 in their heads already. They believe what they want to. To say who believes this crap is crazy or whoever, even, in their own mind passes judgement on someone for what they believe in and how they hold it dear to them. That's just straight elitism, and that, to me, is something that mankind can do without! Or should I say needs to do without.[/u]

right after i watched loose change, i watched a vid debunking it. they had a statement from the co-creators that the whole movie was intended as fiction. honestly, if i wasn't so into apathy and lazyness, i'd find the link to the debunking video... but like i said apath-whatever and blah blah blah...

scorpion84 · Post by **scorpion84** » Saturday Sep 13, 2008

i saw this one before a few years ago. its surely a different point of view than what id normally have.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Saturday Sep 13, 2008

Yep, I'm pretty critical of the Bushpilots, and the horrible things they've done to the American people, but c'mon.
Bush & Co. did not perpetrate 9/11. Al Qaeda did.
Ask the guy who paid for the whole thing, he's still alive.

As I watched the footage from NYC on Nat Geo the other night, much of which was privately-shot by civilians nearby which I'd never seen, I was reminded that this event was the most-recorded event in all of human history... a very important distinction. Thousands of videocamera's, and millions of still cameras caught every conceivable angle, during and after the hits. It doesn't lie.
Also of note for me: the weather. Part of what made it seem so surreal was the fact that the weather in the Northeast that day was extremely clear, with aircraft visibilty over a hundred miles. It seemed TOO perfect, like a Hollywood soundstage, and the towers could not have been more perfectly lit by the morning sun. But it wasn't Hollywood. Millions of people all over the world saw the second plane hit. So, are we to believe that on the same exact morning a bunch of terrorists fly planes into the WTC, Bush gives an order for a missile strike on the Pentagon? Can you possibly make a connection there? Or that Flight 93 just disappeared? Where'd the people go, the LOST island?
Ordinarily, I'm the first one playing devil's advocate and second-guessing, but this was the most important piece of history during our lifetimes, as well as the most documented. We don't know why John Hancock signed his name bigger than everybody else's on the Declaration Of Independence, but we know who crashed planes on 9/11, and we know why.--------->JMS

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Saturday Sep 13, 2008

As my dad says: "In order to keep a secret, the other guy has to be dead"

Some people say they landed the planes somewhere hidden and paid off the passengers...

There's no way they paid off hundreds of people on those planes to keep quiet, while they quietly landed them at a different airport.. no way.

It only takes one person to reveal a cover-up. You're telling me not one person would feel guilty that they helped hide the deaths of over 2,600 people? or almost 130 people in the Pentagon?

(My numbers only include the people NOT in planes, since after all they're not dead, they're in a different country, since they're "paid off")

I call bullshit.

As far as the missile shooting down Flight 93, that could happen. They might have been preventing it from hitting the White House (yes, i know they were still in Somerset).. I don't know what happened, I wasn't there.

You'd have to be on the planes to know exactly what happened.. Sadly, no one is alive that was.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Saturday Sep 13, 2008

and besides, if it's some big government conspiracy, don't you think all these conspiracy theorists would be dead and we'd have never seen loose change? come on. if the government had no problems crashing some planes and killing however many american citizens, don't you think the creators of loose change would be expendable? they're not in hiding. they're doing interviews. same with any of these conspiracy bastards. they're all over tv saying it's the government. well... i mean... the fbi and homeland security have everything under watch. the searches you make on the internet, your phone calls, your email, text messages, etc. you really think these guys are flying under there radar? use your head and common sense.

randydrummer · Post by **randydrummer** » Saturday Sep 13, 2008

Whether or not you believe the conspiracy theories is irrelevant at this point. What concerns me most is the fact that our government officials (especially at the top) lie to the American public without flinching. That makes the lies most convincing. Then the next thing you know, people actually believe that there was a connection between 911 and Iraq.

I saw a bumper sticker recently that said, "I love my country, but I fear my government". I'm assuming this guy was a Vietnam Veteran. But the saying stays relevant.

One thing I like about the conspiracy theories is that they are kind of thought provoking. And I love the twist of the story when the conspiracy theorists accuse the "party line story tellers" of being the "real conspiracy theorists". They may be onto something...

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Sunday Sep 14, 2008

well... i mean. look at the patriot act? they sneak so much into these acts with names that have nothing to do with what's in them. wasn't there a simpsons episode that made fun of it? i mean, the patriot act. come on. the last thing a true patriot would do is take away our rights to privacy, a lawyer, and a trial.

but the thread title is loose change, so we gotta stick to that topic.

about 73 cents

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Monday Sep 15, 2008

Charltor wrote:
DirtySanchez wrote:People who seriously believe this amaze me.
thats's what you said about midget transexuals.

Would! (wood)

rreihart · Post by **rreihart** » Monday Sep 15, 2008

JakeWilliams wrote:I didn't know it was that popular... Just go to youtube.com and search for Loose Change...there's 20 clips.

Probably should have done that before I asked where the clip was.

Better yet, if you go to Google Video you can download the whole movie. At least you could, that's how I saw it like a year ago.

Whether it's true or not, it makes you think.

rreihart · Post by **rreihart** » Monday Sep 15, 2008

Who's with me on this "theory"?

Does anyone else think their is a chance that at least one of the people declared dead at the WTC site is actually alive somewhere today? I started thinking about this shortly after September 11th. When you're talking about the amount of people who were never recovered, do you think their is any chance that someone just kinda disappeared on purpose? Seized the opportunity to become someone else and just got lost? I think their is a decent chance of that.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Monday Sep 15, 2008

I think the odds are fair that something like that happened. I'm surprised it hasn't made it's way into a novel or movie, as it would seem pretty easy to do so. It would just be beyond evil to put your family and the country through something like that, but there's somebody out there that will do anything you can dream up. People suck sometimes.--->JMS

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Tuesday Sep 16, 2008

Charltor wrote:
DirtySanchez wrote:People who seriously believe this amaze me.
thats's what you said about midget transexuals.

AWESOME!!!

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