Ready to suffer some more?

[witchhunt]

I got 400 gallons of heating oil yesterday for the meager fee of $1751.60.
$4.37 a gallon.

[mjb]

I got 400 gallons of heating oil yesterday for the meager fee of $1751.60.
$4.37 a gallon.

fuck that! i'm going with one of those outdoor furnaces this year. it's gonna be about 10k but the return on investment will probobly pay for itself in about 3 years if not less.

www.crownroyalstoves.com


when i bought this place it was .88 a gallon my furnace needs replaced and i am not even considering an oil furnace. can't afford it!

[metal_junky]

Time to go back to the old wood stove!

[Killjingle]

i'm going with one of those outdoor furnaces this year

Im thinking there are a lot of townships putting restrictions on these. Am I wrong?

[DirtySanchez]

How long will that last you? Halfway through the winter?

My natural gas bills were right around 500 bucks dec-feb and between 300-425 oct,nov,mar,april!!!

Now Electricity is going to skyrocket as well. I really do want to put in a pellet stove or at least a wood burner.

[Ron]

I'm lucky that my townhouse is a middle unit and energy efficient. Both of my neighbors are women who have their heat running constantly during the winter and I keep mine at 65°.
This past winter's natural gas bill averaged less than $65.00 per month.

[DirtySanchez]

I'm lucky that my townhouse is a middle unit and energy efficient. Both of my neighbors are women who have their heat running constantly during the winter and I keep mine at 65°.
This past winter's natural gas bill averaged less than $65.00 per month.

Ban Yourself! You're yearly bill prolly = my Februaury bill.

[CCdrums]

I'm lucky that my townhouse is a middle unit and energy efficient. Both of my neighbors are women who have their heat running constantly during the winter and I keep mine at 65°.
This past winter's natural gas bill averaged less than $65.00 per month.

You dirt sucking pig......

[songsmith]

Yeah, dude, thanks for the urine sample in my circular oat-based breakfast cereal. I'm going to put one of those homeless-designed 55-gallon drums full of burning trash in my backyard. Can of beans, anyone?------->JMS

[metalchurch]

Yeah, dude, thanks for the urine sample in my circular oat-based breakfast cereal. I'm going to put one of those homeless-designed 55-gallon drums full of burning trash in my backyard. Can of beans, anyone?------->JMS

Just don't use the Plastic Barrels Johnny.

[JayBird]

Dude...I have a two bedroom house with NO insulation built in the 1950s. Typically cost me $1600-$1800 to heat when oil wasn't outrageous. Last year when all this bullshit started, I bought a woodburner. With all the chimney, duct work, and woodburner...I spent about $1200. I used 3 cords of wood and that cost me $375. So last year I was still under what I spent in years past. What I saved last year alone based on oil prices...hmmm...thousands! This year...I'll be speanding about $400 with the slight increase in wood...TOTAL! If you can...fuck the oil companies and find another means of heating your home.

[Colton]

Yeah, oils runnin low, time to start burnin all the trees.



Dont get me wrong, we've had an outdoor furnace for 15 years or so, but you have to admit, if everyone switches to one alternative, that alternative will get f'n screwed as well. Before you know it, there will be people cuttin down the trees in your back yard at night for the cash.

[BDR]

Went with electric, forced air furnace & central air in the new place. The cap will be lifted in a few years but until then, EFF BIG OIL!!!

r:>)

[Mikey Wax]

I burn coal and I love it. I only have to mess with the fire a few times a day. It stays going all night so I don't have to get up in the middle of the night. Yes, my basement is a bit dusty, but it's only in the basement. I only used around 5 ton last winter, costing around $400. I still burnt around 1 tank of oil, but that was on the days it was too warm to use the coal burner. This winter, it WON'T ever be too warm for the coal. I'll just be opening windows I guess.

[DirtySanchez]

Before you know it, there will be people cuttin down the trees in your back yard at night for the cash.

Dude,

That shit really happens already. You can get a couple thousand bucks for a real nice cherry tree at the sawmill.

Shit happens in clearfield county all the time. Fuckin rednecks up there are nuts man.

[songsmith]

It's not like people clearcut trees for firewood. You specifically have to use dead trees, or they'll catch your flue on fire. Obviously, you'd be denying some mealworms and yellowjackets a home, and maybe a chipmunk or two, but I think the ecosystem will get over it.
Also, anyone cutting down any of my trees without permission will be "mistaken" for a rabid coyote, and summarily shot.
I'd have a woodburner in a second, but I live in a trailer. I'm thrifty, but not stupid. NEVER put a woodburner in manufactured housing, especially an old single-wide... they're like tinderboxes. I've personally seen them become fully involved in about 2 minutes... if you were sleeping, by the time you smelled it, you'd be trapped.
Anyway, I'm currently scrambling for winter heat, thanks to this thread. I may wind up using electric more, until it, too, skyrockets. Last winter I already stayed suited up in sweats and fleeces all winter... indoors. I don't know what I'll do this winter.------->JMS

[BDR]

Sad thing is, I think this will be the "big winter" where a lot of people, unfortunately, die. There are people out there that are just plain old, absolutely fucked.

Meantime, oil companies continue to turn the biggest profits in history.

r:>)

[BDR]

Anyway, I'm currently scrambling for winter heat, thanks to this thread. I may wind up using electric more, until it, too, skyrockets. Last winter I already stayed suited up in sweats and fleeces all winter... indoors. I don't know what I'll do this winter.------->JMS

Back in the day, I used to pick which rooms/areas of my trailer I absolutely needed in the winter and would close off the rest with big, thick blankets thumbtacked across doorways/hallways/whatever (don't forget to close heat vents in the unused areas). Also, make sure your skirting is up to par now while the weather's nice. Any cracks or openings is just money flying out into the cold, winter air.

r:>)

[DirtySanchez]

It's not like people clearcut trees for firewood. You specifically have to use dead trees, or they'll catch your flue on fire. Obviously, you'd be denying some mealworms and yellowjackets a home, and maybe a chipmunk or two, but I think the ecosystem will get over it.
Also, anyone cutting down any of my trees without permission will be "mistaken" for a rabid coyote, and summarily shot.
I'd have a woodburner in a second, but I live in a trailer. I'm thrifty, but not stupid. NEVER put a woodburner in manufactured housing, especially an old single-wide... they're like tinderboxes. I've personally seen them become fully involved in about 2 minutes... if you were sleeping, by the time you smelled it, you'd be trapped.
Anyway, I'm currently scrambling for winter heat, thanks to this thread. I may wind up using electric more, until it, too, skyrockets. Last winter I already stayed suited up in sweats and fleeces all winter... indoors. I don't know what I'll do this winter.------->JMS

My dad is currently living in a trailer while he builds his house.

He contacted his homeowners insurance company and they gave him exact specifications for putting a wood burner in. It takes a little more work and more expensive, triple walled flu pipe, but it's perfectly safe.
My cousin has had one for ten years in a single wide and no problems.

Where people go wrong, is they think just sticking a pipe out the wall and above the roof will be fine . Use fire bricks around it inside and build something that will take the heat, and you'd be fine.

Just remember to check with your insurance company before putting a wood/coal burner in your house, you could end up paying more for insurance than you would heat or lose everything if something did happen.

[floodcitybrass]

Yep. I did the math. Its cheaper to just burn money.

[songsmith]

My dad is currently living in a trailer while he builds his house.

He contacted his homeowners insurance company and they gave him exact specifications for putting a wood burner in. It takes a little more work and more expensive, triple walled flu pipe, but it's perfectly safe.
My cousin has had one for ten years in a single wide and no problems.

Where people go wrong, is they think just sticking a pipe out the wall and above the roof will be fine . Use fire bricks around it inside and build something that will take the heat, and you'd be fine.

Just remember to check with your insurance company before putting a wood/coal burner in your house, you could end up paying more for insurance than you would heat or lose everything if something did happen.

Hmmm, thanks my man, I'm going to look into this. I actually have a room built on in the back, a TV/utility room, where we spend a lot of time because it's easy to heat/cool, and has a love seat and a TV in it. our heating system is unlike most trailers, it was added in the late 80's... it's oil hot-water baseboard. It has two zones, the TV room/bathroom/bedroom zone, and the rest of the house, so we already keep the rest of the place a lot cooler in the winter... I think if we went cooler, the pipes would freeze underneath.
I actually really like wood heat, and a woodburner would be great, I'm calling the insurance company to check on this. Thanks!----->JMS

[JayBird]

There really aren't too many "specs" when adding a woodburner. They make stainless insulated pipe...one spec taken care of. Insulated pipe can be as close as 2 inches from combustable material...no less. If it is uninsulated...I think it has to be at least 8 inches. If you put a woodburner near a wooden wall, then the back corners of the woodburner have to be like 29 inches from the wall...if its a block wall...different specs. Pretty simple rules...the specs actually come with all woodburners (bought new). These specs are based on current home owner's insurance policy guidelines.

Forgot one thing...gas in Venezuela...$.25 a gallon. Cheapest place on the planet right now...hmmm...we're really taking it in the crapper!

Also...check out UNITED REFINING COMPANY. Their main advertisment niche...ALL AMERICAN MADE FUEL. Next time you get gas from a KWIK FILL...go in and ask why their gas is the same price as EVERYONE elses. KWIK FILL is owned by UNITED REFINING COMPANY. They don't have to import their oil/gas/etc. They are charging the same damn prices as other companies...why?...because they can.

[Bo Duke]

I got 400 gallons of heating oil yesterday for the meager fee of $1751.60.
$4.37 a gallon.

Geez o Pete's that's alot of money right there. How long do you think that will last you? I have electric heat and my bill might jump to $150 more than usual during the winter months. I keep most rooms that I'm using at 71 degrees and my office where my instruments are it is 74 constant.

I'd imagine that now would be the time to buy because it will only go up in price from here.

[HurricaneBob]

I just tie 2 pitbulls to the gas meter, go ahead...shut it off!

[witchhunt]

I got 400 gallons of heating oil yesterday for the meager fee of $1751.60.
$4.37 a gallon.

Geez o Pete's that's alot of money right there. How long do you think that will last you? I have electric heat and my bill might jump to $150 more than usual during the winter months. I keep most rooms that I'm using at 71 degrees and my office where my instruments are it is 74 constant.

I'd imagine that now would be the time to buy because it will only go up in price from here.

I'll probably have to get more before winter is over but I have to keep oil in the tank all the time cause that's how I heat my water, too. It'll probably be $4.90 or more by the time I get more.