Velvet Revolver fires Weiland

[VENTGtr]

I love the "Grunge" stuff, and am hugely thankful it came about for it
(No offence to HF1, or anyone else. I was just never big on the "Hair"
stuff, even when it was big).

I do agree that a "revival" would be an odd concept for it, though.
As Victor said, it never REALLY fell out. It was more the guys in it
decided to limit it, more than anything else.

Really, what some see as Grunge is a pretty wide freakin' scope.

CandleBox, I Mother Earth, etc. were certainly never in the same
camp as Nirvana, but they're seen as part of the same genre (Or,
sub-genre).

CandleBox still tours, after a long hiatus, and puts out cool stuff.

A real "Grunge" kind of tour that would be cool (And who could
spearhead it):

<b>Soundgarden</b> (With the usual "Kim Thayil is the worst guitar player
EVER disclaimer. How? Why?...I dunno!)

and

<b>Screaming Trees</b> (The first of all of those bands to have any kind
of national exposure. AWESOME live.)

[EyesOfAnguishbassist]

Isn't Mudhoney on that movie "Black Sheep"?

[DrumAndDestroy]

Isn't Mudhoney on that movie "Black Sheep"?

yup. and that movie is great

[BDR]

Weiland is a chump. Pull your ass out of the gutter, FCOL.

I hate people like him who have the opportunity to get the things they want out of life but instead snort everything up their noses or shoot it into their veins.

Idiot. Weed gets you high, you know.

r:>)

[Baceman Spiff]

I think a revival is never that strong. Poison and Motley Crue ain't selling like they used too either. And you can bet if STP gets back together, A drug problem isn't gonna stop the fans from going to a show. Either way, I don't think it's gonna be some huge thing. It's just natural progression of things. I wouldn't get my spandex in a bunch about it.

Exactly, its all on a twenty year cycle. I don't know if there will be a literal "Grunge Revival" but the music and the pop culture of the nineties will be the next retro movement. Especially if there is Democrat in the Whitehouse. The kids today (middle school through high school) were born after 1990. They all grew up hearing that stuff on the radio. And thats the music they'll be nostalgic about. Just like the kids from this decade were nostalgic about the eighties. My girlfriends kids and their friends are over here all of the time. When they're jammin' I usually hear bands like, Third Eye Blind, Tool, Sugar Ray, Sister Hazel and Blind Melon just to name a few. Thats not to say that some of them don't listen to eighties music at all. Just like some of the kids I grew up with, listened to the Beatles. Ive said it before, and I'll say it again. Sooner or later someone is going to throw a boatload of money at Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic to go back on tour with a different vocalist or a few of them. Its going to happen. That is if we're all still here after 2012!
But thats another thread entirely.

[nickname]

If you think about it, when STP formed in the early 90's, Weiland was up there clutching the mic doing his best Eddie Vedder impersonation, and he later adopted quite the glam look himself! Although he took it more in more of a David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust direction.

tornandfrayed, you know your grunge! Andrew Wood may have taken grunge in a different direction like his old roommate Chris Cornell did with Soundgarden's "Superunknown" had he not passed. "Stargazer," by MLB was an awesome song. Members of that band later went on to form Pearl Jam AND Mudhoney! Seattle must have been a cool city to live in in the early-mid 90's!

I always like the music, whatever style it may be, when it is still fresh and in the streets where it belongs. Grunge, to me, sounded just like that. Grunge seemed like real people wearing real clothes playing good music. I just couldn't relate with the glitz and glam that went along with a lot of 80's rock and the fashion that followed, but I will say that a lot of good music came out of the 80's. I missed the 80's by a few years so I can actually look at pictures of myself back then and I don't cringe at the site of Aqua Net hair, fingerless gloves, and acid-washed pleated jeans. Grunge definitely hit home with me, but it became a fashion statement just like all music that goes mainstream does.

[KyleMayket]

come on, let's all face it, Weiland was a better musician on drugs than off. Core and Purple were great albums, and in my opinion, they fell off after that, of course cuz he went to rehab after Purple. Who will lead a Grunge revival? How about Alice in Chains, who are in the studio now, i forget who their new singer is but i hear he sounds just like Staley. And furthermore, pretty much every song was done by Jerry Cantrell, so he was really the brains behind it, Staley was just the voice. And i think Grohl just needs the right inspiration to be grunge again, cuz "the color and the shape" is grunge and in my opinion their best album. I would love to see that happen. I've had the pleasure to meet Dave Grohl (my uncle worked with his mom at a flower shop in VA) and he was super cool, even to a 12 y/o kid, he went out to his car to get me a tour T-shirt that i still have (and is waaaaayyy too small for my fat ass to fit into, it's just a momento) Speaking of people who influenced those bands, i just went to see the Pixies (Who Kurt Cobain claimed as his favorite band many times) just 2 years ago, i don't know if they're still touring together or not, but it was cool to see them live.

[MY_TURNING_POINT]

You really have to be joking to say "Staley was just the voice" behind Alice In Chains. Layne Staley was Alice in Chains! Yes Jerry wrote a lot of music but if it weren't for Layne's lyrics and vocal abilities those songs wouldn't have been what they are.


Plus, Layne Staley wrote more music for the band than what a lot of people know.

The new guy is at best ok, but he doesn't even sound close to comparing with Layne's voice, he doesn't have the power or the range. Check him out on You-Tube, it's rather depressing.

Don't mean to bust on you but Layne Staley is my favorite singer. He can't be replaced - period.

[bassist_25]

I'm really enjoying this thread. I know that some people didn't dig that whole 90s alternative movement, but I really love a lot of the rock music that came out in that period. Most bands had their own sound and style, unlike now, when I can't tell psuedoangst modern rock band A from pseudoangst modern rock band B.

I remember being about 15 and listening to Green Day, Soundgarden, STP, Nirvana, Better Than Ezra, Alice in Chains, Bush, Sponge, Spacehog, Silverchair, Collective Soul, Live, Local H, The Goo Goo Dolls, etc. I was never a big Pearl Jam fan, though. I just couldn't get into Vedder's singing, and his pretentious, "Oh, I'm a rockstar. Whoa is me," crap pisses me off. Of course, there was a lot of good pop rock type of stuff that came out during the tailend of it like Matchbox20, Dishwalla, Third Eye Blind, and dare I say, Hootie and the Blowfish (Fess up! If you were into music in the 90s, you own Cracked Rear View!).

Ironically, this was the same time I was getting into hair music too. I was also buying CDs by Bon Jovi, Poison, Motely Crue, The Scorpions, and White Lion.

[The'Kidd]

Good move, I say. Never liked his singing or stage presence.

They'll find someone waaaaaay better.

[moxham123]

Just announced today

Stone Temple Pilots
Musikfest
Bethlehem, PA
Friday, August 8, 2008
$25-$55

http://www.musikfest.org/lineup/2008.asp

[VENTGtr]

...Green Day, Soundgarden, STP, Nirvana, Better Than
Ezra, Alice in Chains, Bush, Sponge, Spacehog, Silverchair, Collective Soul,
Live, Local H, The Goo Goo Dolls, etc. I was never a big Pearl Jam fan, though.

Dig 'em all, including PJ, big. Sponge really went into the glam thing big
time by their third album. Was a great album in it's own right. THEN, TA
DA! Singer (Dombroski) goes off to do the smack thing. Guess they're
still around to some extent but no Joey Mazzola (Guitarist/Songwriter).
Dombroski's the only original guy left.

We were just talking about Spacehog at practice last week. All three
of their albums are really good. If you like the T-Rex/Bowie/Sweet-type
stuff, you'll like these a lot.

[Colton]

Seen in the paper the other day that STP is getting back together

[bassist4life2004]

Im excited to see an STP reunion. I love stone temple pilots. Hopefully they break out a new album and don't go all Van Halen on us, or inflict upon us their Chinese Democracy...haha

[bassist_25]

Remember that project that came out with 3/4s of STP? I think it was called Talk Show.

Robert DeLeo was a huge bass influence on me growing up. Everything he plays is just so tasteful but still has this really deep pocket to it. He cites James Jamerson as an influence, and it really shows in his approach to laying it down. I've always thought that Trippin' in a Hole in a Paper Heart was one of his best lines. Try playing some of his stuff. It will kick your ass! I recommend Wicked Garden to humble oneself. Everything he does is so syncopated, but it still has to fall exactly on the correct beats or it all falls apart. Even something like Sex Type Thing is a challenge. I've seen so many bands cover it and the guitarists and bassists never nail the E - F# changes in the verses correctly. Robert and Eric Kretz are the "John Paul Jones and Bonzo" of the 90s. What a highly underrated rythmn section!

Dean's no slouch either. I always thought that he had a very individualized approach to the guitar. He always had some of the most interesting choices for chord voicings. Some of the stuff that he plays on Core is just downright dissonant, but it comes together so beautifully.

I always thought it was funny that the critics loved to blast STP, yet, I always thought the band blew away their contemporaries in terms of both songwriting and musicianship.

[f.sciarrillo]

Why don't we all just agree that Mother Love Bone was a great band and the forefront for Seattle based bands, well you could say that Green River was, but MLB is who made it. Soundgarden was a great band. Scott Weiland is, EH? I do like his voice. But if you want to talk about the best Seattle voice ?? Then none of them are better than Alice In Chains Layne Staley.

Now, don't get me wrong. I loved Peall Jams Ten, and Soundgarden's Super unknown. And I also liked the others, but Alice In Chains was my main group. Mainly because they never changed, dark and mysterious is what they were all the way until Staley's death.

Andrew wood set the way for all of them. If it wasn't for him there would have been no Soundgarden or Pearl Jam. I think I will get out my Stardog Champion cd now