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bfoust wrote: Here is what I am pro:

Pro-Gun
Pro-Life
Pro-Grammar..

Who should I vote for?

A bible thumping redneck who speaks well. Good luck.
Well not as bible thumping as our current administration, but not atheist either.

Didn't know rednecks spoke well...

Yes I'm one of those '2nd amendment gun nuts', and I'm against abortion 100% - they DO have 48/72hr pills...

(If someone gets raped, they STILL can get a 72hr pill, so there's no excuse for carrying it for 8 weeks then saying "well, guess i'll terminate this baby because i was too lazy to use a simple pill."
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bfoust wrote:Yes I'm one of those '2nd amendment gun nuts', and I'm against abortion 100% - they DO have 48/72hr pills...

(If someone gets raped, they STILL can get a 72hr pill, so there's no excuse for carrying it for 8 weeks then saying "well, guess i'll terminate this baby because i was too lazy to use a simple pill."
That is a more reasonable political stance than a "true" Pro-life stance. True Pro-lifers believe that the 48/72 pills and IUDs are still abortions since conception still occurs. They even take the stance that "the pill" only stops ovulation about 60% of the time and the other 40% of the time allows conception. The reason for 99% efficiency, they say, is that the chemical imbalances in the womb cause an early abortion.
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I don't understand... I thought that what party you register with is more of a statement or an opportunity to just vote a straight party ticket. I thought you could still be a Libertarian and then vote for another person who happens to be of another party affiliation. Why would you, gallowglass of all people, want to actually REGISTER as a Republican?
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ZappasXWife wrote:I don't understand... I thought that what party you register with is more of a statement or an opportunity to just vote a straight party ticket. I thought you could still be a Libertarian and then vote for another person who happens to be of another party affiliation. Why would you, gallowglass of all people, want to actually REGISTER as a Republican?
In PA, you have to be registered as a Dem or Rep to vote in the primaries. If you are registered Dem, you have to choose between Dem candidates. Since Ron Paul is running as a Rep., you have to be registered as a Rep to vote for him in the primaries.
... and then the wheel fell off.
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ZappasXWife wrote:I don't understand... I thought that what party you register with is more of a statement or an opportunity to just vote a straight party ticket. I thought you could still be a Libertarian and then vote for another person who happens to be of another party affiliation. Why would you, gallowglass of all people, want to actually REGISTER as a Republican?
Because in PA you can only participate in the primaries for the party you are registered. Some other states are different (like NH, for example). I plan on voting for Ron Paul in the primaries and up until this point he is still running on the Republican ticket. The general election is different. At that point you can vote for whomever you want. If Paul ends up dropping from the Republican party before April (which in some ways is desirable, yet unlikely) it will be moot as the Libertarians aren't running anybody else and a straight "Independent" bid wouldn't affect me either.

Another point on the subject. I have been a "Libertarian" for many years (yes, even before it was a cool flashy buzzword), but I have been somewhat disenfranchised (though still a member) from the party itself for awhile now. They are just too ineffectual. This is not entirely their fault, as the two main parties hold an extreme deathgrip on the American political machine. Nonetheless, tits on a bull. Changing my affiliation will be an inconvienience, and will mean something to me symbolically, but won't really mean anything on a practical level.
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Most people think I'm leftest. BUT, I'm against ANY gun control and I'm against ALL abortion. I"m against excess spending (especially ear marks).

However I'm not against big government. That would stand for any agency who's job it is to protect us in some way.

And the Fed's distribution of wealth (ouch, I can hear you already). Many cities are poor, jobs have gone over seas, we need help from the Feds. Many cities are rich and don't need Federal help. That's what I mean by distribution.

I'm not against Bush of Reagan because they are republicans, but because they thought / think they are dictators and they ran /run HUGE deficits.

Therefore, I see McCain as another Bush type. He completely supports Bush on the war (read - it will last forever). And he admittedly knows little about finances.

I was for Edwards. Looks like I might go Obama.
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Glad somebody thought they were as humorous as I did, but I can't take credit for the definitions, they were sent to me. :) If you liked them, you might also enjoy what follows, which, while not humorous, was sent to me as well:




"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."  

(I'll tell you later who said this.) 

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
~ Republican President and War Veteran Theodore Roosevelt  
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"When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it. After my experience, I have come to hate war. War settles nothing."
 
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." ~ Republican President and Five Star General Dwight D. Eisenhower
 
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"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
~ Republican President Abraham Lincoln
 
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"It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear." ~ General Douglas MacArthur, Speech, May 15, 1951  
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"National defense is the usual pretext for the policy of fleecing the people." ~ Senator John Taylor
 
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"The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without
conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing that we know about living." ~ General Omar Bradley
 
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"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious.   I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
 

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.  

Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras 'right' for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927, I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
 

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents."
~ Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler (former Commandant, U.S. Marine Corps), Common Sense, November 1935
 
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"The biggest lesson I learned from Vietnam is not to trust [our own] government's statements." ~ Senator James W. Fulbright  
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"If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest." ~ President Thomas Jefferson
 
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"The first casualty when war comes is the truth." ~ Sen. Hiram Johnson
 
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"What a cruel thing is war: to separate and destroy families and friends, and mar the purest joys and happiness God has granted us in this world; to fill our hearts with hatred instead of love for our neighbors, and to devastate the fair face of this beautiful world." ~ General Robert E. Lee
 
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"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
~ President James Madison
 
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"Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly and wickedness of the government may engage itself?  
Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest right of personal liberty? Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life, itself, whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it?

 
A free government with an uncontrolled power of military conscription is the most ridiculous and abominable contradiction and nonsense that ever entered into the heads of men."
~ Daniel Webster, Speech in the House of Representatives, January 14, 1814
 
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"The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."  ~ Mark Twain, "The Mysterious Stranger" (1910)  
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"This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."
 ~ Frederick Douglass, 1857

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"That was then...but today's leaders have a different take on things...it can be seen in what they do and say at the upper levels of both political parties...take my cousin, George Bush, who doesn't read, doesn't understand and has zero character":
 

"This would be a lot easier if it were a dictatorship." ~ George W.
Bush, July 4, 2000
 
"The Constitution is only a God Damn piece of paper." ~ George W. Bush
 
"Our enemies...never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." ~ George W. Bush  


"Of course what would one expect from the family which helped Hitler's Nazi Germany before and during WWII...and continues their treasonous ways":

( http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm )

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"Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country." ~ Hermann Goering
 
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The quote at the beginning is from:
 
~ Adolph Hitler ("My New World Order", Proclamation to the German Nation at Berlin, February 1, 1933.) I bet you thought is was from the Republican Party Platform!
 
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looking above...did we ever think that maybe bush's speech writers write this shit out 'cuz they know he's a dumbass and wouldn't even realize it when he said it?

i mean...maybe the speech writers have a sense of humor and manipulate dubya's stupidity?
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I saw a clip last night from the Republican debate, that was my favorite soundbite of the election process so far...
McCain and Romney were doing their usual jabs at one another, this time regarding Romney flip-flopping on the Iraq Debacle's "Timetable for Withdrawal" bulls*t, and Ron Paul made the inescapable point that they were arguing about a war we shouldn't even be in. There were no WMD's, no Al Qaeda in Iraq, no strategic value, and no aggression towards the US. I will never forget the look on Romneys face, then his reaction. He rolled his eyes like the girl he is, then it seemed like he physically stopped himself from pointing his finger at his ear and moving it in circles, the International Hand-Gesture for, "He's nuts."
Ron Paul went on. "How many of our kids are you going to kill before you acknowledge the stupidity of this war?" You show me ANYBODY more courageous on either side. Mr. Paul needs only to divorce the defective party he's allied with, to break free and become an independent, and I will not only vote for him, I'll campaign for him.
Otherwise, I'll vote for anybody but Romney. The very first time I saw him I remarked that he looks like the guys they cast as the Antichrist in both horror and Christian movies... slick, expensive designer suits, $200 haircut, whitened teeth, forced smile... I keep waiting for his pupils to glow and a chorale group to start singing in Latin, "Dominus... Mortis... Cheesy-poofs..." This guy makes Hillary look like Strawberry Shortcake.
Anyway, yet another good repost, Yankee, my favorite quotes are from Mark Twain, the Marine commandant, and Hermann Goering, though the Teddy Roosevelt quote was most telling. Thanks!---->JMS
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This was sent to me in an e-mail. Anyone know if any or all of it is true? (I'm way too lazy and apathetic to research it)

"We checked this out on "snopes.com". I t is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM
from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school
in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since
it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor
will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands
over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our country?......"
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Bag wrote:This was sent to me in an e-mail. Anyone know if any or all of it is true? (I'm way too lazy and apathetic to research it)

"We checked this out on "snopes.com". I t is factual. Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born
in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM
from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from
Wichita, Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two
years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His
mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.
When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that
that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
influence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school
in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since
it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major
public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined
the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor
will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands
over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the
President of the United States, one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading
our country?......"
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This is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read. Like Barack Obama has any intent of destroying the United States. Please. This man has done much more for the people of this country, especially in urban settings than most ever would.

The "religious nutjobs" need to get the fuck over themselves. The Evangelical vote lost all credibility when their posterchild, Ted Haggerty was caught sucking some dude's dick. Besides, we just spent the past 7 years under a moron who claims to be one of Jesus' "boys"... and look where the fuck that got us...

Honestly, Religion has absolutely ZERO place in Politics, and until churches start paying taxes -- that is exactly how it should stay.
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This is not true at all.
Amusing, but complete bulshit.
People have given him shit for not crossing his heart on occasion during the National Anthem. Personally, I don't see the big deal.

This is a redneck scare tactic.
There is no fucking way Barack Obama will ever be elected though.

This whole thing reminds me of "Blazing Saddles".


He should just campaign through the Bible Belt singing "CamptownRaces".

"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the New West. You know, MORONS." lol
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DirtySanchez wrote:This is a redneck scare tactic.
There is no fucking way Barack Obama will ever be elected though.
Precisely.
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DirtySanchez wrote:This is a redneck scare tactic.
At this point in time, I am hearing this kind of Obama bashing mostly from Hillary supporters.
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Didn't the bible belt elect our last President? Then explain how a black man or woman would ever be elected? (no offense, but there's a lot of people aka rednecks who wouldn't want either.)

We're gonna get stuck with some old white bald dude who is an oil tycoon.

Don't get me wrong, we need change, but I'm afraid the majority might just vote for a male caucasian.

Seriously, though, it would be funny to see Obama or Clinton elected to see how much more hated we can get in the Middle East.
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Bag wrote:This was sent to me in an e-mail. Anyone know if any or all of it is true? (I'm way too lazy and apathetic to research it)


:shock: :shock: Uh, yeah, I'm SO lazy and apathetic I actually DID go to the land of Snopes when I first received the
e-mail, and guess what? I put in the name of the cousin alone, coupled it with e-mail, Bush cousin, then tried just Bush cousin e-mail, NOTHING came up. Not even TODAY! Which, just because Snopes is not saying it's true, doesn't mean it's false. A search on MSN showed he is/was a Kucinich supporter, and is related to the Bush family on the Walker side. ANY WAY, I recalled having heard the Goering quote, I just never knew who'd said it. All I knew was it had been a Nazi. I thought FDR, had said Teddy's quote. :) The sentiments in the e-mail are appropriate to the times, whether or not I can verify each and every single one of them as quotes. Besides, unless they've been living under a rock, everyone knows Dubya's are true (his comment about the Constitution was NOT part of a speech), but if you'd like me to research each and every quote, know it will take me a good while, as like our esteemed President, MSN/Web TVs are quite s l o w. :lol: Since we aren't supposed to copy from Snopes without permission, :roll: :oops: I took certain things out below.


Claim:   Hermann Goering proclaimed that although "the people don't want war," they "can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders."
  True.
  [Collected on the Internet, 2002]
Origins:   A timely quote in the vein of the apocryphal Julius Caesar warning about political leaders who can all too easily send the citizenry marching eagerly off to war by manufacturing crises that purportedly threaten national security and making popular appeals to patriotism. In this case the sentiment expressed is even more disturbing because it comes not from a venerated figure of antiquity, but supposedly from a reviled twentieth-century figure associated with the most chilling example of genocide in human history: Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief. We may be made somewhat uneasy by the idea that the head of a classic civilization recognized 2,000 years ago that the populace could be manipulated into sacrificing themselves in wars at the whims of their leaders, but we're outraged (and maybe even scared) at the thought of a fat Nazi fascist flunky's recognizing and telling us the same thing.
The notable difference here is that although the Caesar quote is a latter-day fabrication, the words attributed to Hermann Goering are real. Goering was one of the highest-ranking Nazis who survived to be captured and put on trial for war crimes in the city of Nuremberg by the Allies after the end of World War II. He was found guilty on charges of "war crimes," "crimes against peace," and "crimes against humanity" by the Nuremberg tribunal and sentenced to death by hanging. The sentence could not be carried out, however, because Goering committed suicide with smuggled cyanide capsules hours before his execution, scheduled for 15 October 1946.
The quote cited above does not appear in transcripts of the Nuremberg trials because although Goering spoke these words during the course of the proceedings, he did not offer them at his trial. His comments were made privately to Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later published in the book Nuremberg Diary. The quote offered above was part of a conversation Gilbert held with a dejected Hermann Goering in his cell on the evening of 18 April 1946, as the trials were halted for a three-day Easter recess:
Sweating in his cell in the evening, Goering was defensive and deflated and not very happy over the turn the trial was taking. He said that he had no control over the actions or the defense of the others, and that he had never been anti-Semitic himself, had not believed these atrocities, and that several Jews had offered to testify in his behalf. If [Hans] Frank [Governor-General of occupied Poland] had known about atrocities in 1943, he should have come to him and he would have tried to do something about it. He might not have had enough power to change things in 1943, but if somebody had come to him in 1941 or 1942 he could have forced a showdown. (I still did not have the desire at this point to tell him what [SS General Otto] Ohlendorf had said to this: that Goering had been written off as an effective "moderating" influence, because of his drug addiction and corruption.) I pointed out that with his "temperamental utterances," such as preferring the killing of 200 Jews to the destruction of property, he had hardly set himself up as champion of minority rights. Goering protested that too much weight was being put on these temperamental utterances. Furthermore, he made it clear that he was not defending or glorifying Hitler.
Later in the conversation, Gilbert recorded Goering's observations that the common people can always be manipulated into supporting and fighting wars by their political leaders:
We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.
"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."
"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
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Er, nevermind my last post. I know nothing about politics and am leaving this thread.
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clinton because when her husband was president he already stated that she helped him alot with his policies and visits overseas...i think with the two of them working as a team she would make a good president plus if she can still stay with a man who cheated on her publicly shes got some big balls and a lot of forgiveness
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