Where are all of those Hippie Protesters Now ?

[Hawk]

So much to protest today, yet hippies seen to have been assimilated in to a non caring culture. Where are all of the good protests ? On blogs ? Well that's just not effective enough.

A friend of mine (who has a lot of investments) told me in November (because he read it in his researches) that GASOLINE PRICES will stay below $3.00 until Christmas. BECAUSE, as long as gas was under $3.00 people were spending money (keeping money flowing into the big corporations). But if gas prices moved to even $3.01, spending decreased.

So a deal was made with big oil, to keep it under $3.00 until after Christmas. He guaranteed me gas prices would "surge" (Bush's favorite word). Sure enough, my friend is right ! We're being gouged again. Gas is "predicted" (the better word is "planned") to reach $3.50 soon.

We can't live in the past, but, if this were like the 1960's, people would gather by the hundreds to protest big oil boldly ripping us off !

BTW.......John Edwards is on our side to fight this kind of corruption.

Where are the protesters ?

[BDR]

Political threads are gay.

r:>)

[Hawk]

Political threads are gay.

r:>)

People who think everything is gay......are the gayest of all

[Team Transylvania]

then that would be "Gey" , Hawk. Gey is the new ace of spades.....or geydes.

[ToonaRockGuy]

But is it GHEY?

[BDR]

Combustion engines are gay ... we need hydrogen fuel cells! The world supply of fossil fuels is dwindling as it is — some experts project that the planet will be drained of it's oil within the next 40 years.

It's time to get serious about alternative fuels.

(Tree huggers are gay.)

r:>)

[Hawk]

I'm already sorry I commented

Please don't hijack this thread . No opinions might = no comments. Thanks

[BDR]

Combustion engines are gay ... we need hydrogen fuel cells! The world supply of fossil fuels is dwindling as it is — some experts project that the planet will be depleted of it's oil within the next 40 years.

It's time to get serious about alternative fuels.

(Tree huggers are gay.)

r:>)

On topic ... no hijack.

r:>)

[Hawk]

Combustion engines are gay ... we need hydrogen fuel cells! The world supply of fossil fuels is dwindling as it is — some experts project that the planet will be depleted of it's oil within the next 40 years.

It's time to get serious about alternative fuels.

(Tree huggers are gay.)

r:>)

On topic ... no hijack.

r:>)

I was writing my post the same time as you were. You just hit "submit" before I did.

So I didn't see yours until after I already submitted my post. Thanks for your comment.

[ToonaRockGuy]

It's been time for alternatives for the last 25 years...but it's also time to open the oil reserves in Alaska. I mean, does gas have to go to $10 a gallon before someone grows enough nuts to open those reserves for drilling? They're reserves, for cryin' out loud. That's what they are there for. What the hell are we waiting for?

Stupid politics. I hate politicians. They're all gay.

[Hawk]

It's been time for alternatives for the last 25 years...but it's also time to open the oil reserves in Alaska. I mean, does gas have to go to $10 a gallon before someone grows enough nuts to open those reserves for drilling? They're reserves, for cryin' out loud. That's what they are there for. What the hell are we waiting for?

Stupid politics. I hate politicians. They're all gay.

Actually, the environmental activists are in the minority on this one. Nearly everyone in Alaska wants to drill. The majority of people in the lower 48 want to drill. So why aren't we ?

1. Oil prices would go down, and the people running the country (big oil and the political connections) don't want that.

2. Well.......there is no 2.

[BDR]

Not wanting oil prices to go down is gay.

r:>)

[rreihart]

The thing that kills me the most is that American oil company ( I can't remember the name? I think it's associated with Kwik Fill?) that runs those commercials about how we should buy gas from companies that get their oil from the US. My question is, why? Is it cheaper? I am sure if a Kwik Fill is right beside a Sheetz (or any other gas station), they have the same gas prices.

We're paying the consequences of having "Oil Men" in the White House.

If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.

Gas prices, taxes, medical expenses. All are completely out of control and guess who's the biggest beneficiary of all 3? Good old Uncle Sam and his giant vat of KY jelly.

[Barfight]

The thing that kills me the most is that American oil company ( I can't remember the name? I think it's associated with Kwik Fill?) that runs those commercials about how we should buy gas from companies that get their oil from the US. My question is, why? Is it cheaper?

Its because the "patriotic" nutjobs and right-wing want you to think that anything that's not American... is EVIL

Me? everytime my Blazer needs gasoline... I pump good old Hugo Chavez owned CITGO and think NOTHING of it

[lonewolf]

I was watching CNBC the other day when oil went to an inter-day record high over $100 per barrel. It was one trade by one investor and then it dropped below $100 again. I hope that sorry SOB loses his ass on that paper futures contract.

But anyway, that's where the price of oil is set, not in DC. I laugh my ass off every time I hear a politician (with no qualifications for anything but litigation and blowing sunshine off our collective asses) tell us that the price of oil will drop if you elect them.

As with all financial bubbles (see house flipping and dotcom), the only way that the price of oil is going to drop is if John Q. Public sells his IRA mutual funds and starts buying inflated oil futures contracts. Then the oil speculators can take their profits at JQ's expense and move on to the next bubble.

[whitedevilone]

Hippies smell.

[Jim Price]

I either heard or read a recent comment by David Crosby that offered an interesting point on why the "hippies" of today aren't as active, at least as it pertains to the Iraq War. Back during the Vietnam era in the late 60's and early 70's, there was a military draft. The youth then were more energized to speak out, because many of them were in danger of ending up on the front lines in Vietnam.

As far as gasoline prices go, I wonder when the breaking point will be reached; where truckers start pulling their rigs off the highways and/or the Teamsters threatens a shutdown. How much more can people take?

[DrumAndDestroy]

Hippies smell.

"I Hate Hippies....THEY REALLY SMELL"-The Scraps

[Mikey Wax]

Never trust a fuckin Hippy. - NOFX (Drugs are Good)

[Why not Pluto?]

At the risk of being ridiculed, I offer my unusual take on the situation in hopes that someone will understand.

The rising cost of fuel is a good thing! Before you start shooting just open your mind for a second.

1. It takes oil and effort to make oil and deliver it, and it makes a mess so there is always going to be a cost. When you burn the oil it makes another mess. Cheap oil + huge demand = big mess.

2 the government doesn't set the price, demand sets the price. The oil companies will always charge what people will pay without reducing the amount they use. They have people who do nothing but try to figure out what that price is.

3 When oil is cheap, people take it for granted. Just take a look at the new car choices people make when gas is cheap. New technology and sensible choices can never compete with cheap and plentiful oil. This holds true with home heating as well.

4 Some people are making the right choices today. When gas hits $5 a gallon, more of us are going to seriously look at efficiency when making choices and that is a good thing. Seriously, I understand that It is hard to get by with the price of gas but no one is going to die because they have to switch from a hummer to a civic or turn the heat down to 68 and put on a cap. in the end it will lead to cheaper, better transportation which in turn will improve the standard of living for everyone. Think about tomorrow, do you really want big diesel trucks delivering bread to your grandchildren?

5 Thank you for reading my post with an open mind, now you may resume shooting.

[ZappasXWife]

I either heard or read a recent comment by David Crosby that offered an interesting point on why the "hippies" of today aren't as active, at least as it pertains to the Iraq War. Back during the Vietnam era in the late 60's and early 70's, there was a military draft. The youth then were more energized to speak out, because many of them were in danger of ending up on the front lines in Vietnam.

Well yea, thats assumed and probably somewhat correct. However by saying that, it portrays these protesters as on a selfish mission....a mission that, by the way, WAS a major factor in stopping that war. So the goal, a very noble goal, was achieved regardless of the reasons behind it. Also, I bet a lot of those protesters did it because their friends and peers of their whole generation were in danger of being drafted, not them. Most major protests were organized and conducted on college campuses....those students were protected from the draft. I too am very interested in the subject of the lack of protests in this terrible time, and I have 2 theories beside the obvious draft angle. One is that the kids of this generation are sort of more into themselves and how it affects them directly, not interested in changing the world at large. I know I'll get flak from this, and of course there are exceptions. There are some young people out there doing wonderful things but not in the numbers in the 60's. The other reason: I feel bad for this generation in that they are de-sensitized to the violence on TV (remember a televised war was a new thing during Vietnam and it was HORRIFYING) and war in general...for many of them there has always been a war going on that we were somehow involved in during their lifetime! Nothing new for them. Working here at Penn State and going past the 'gate' on College Ave, gosh you would never even know there is a war goin on. Sad.
Sorry if I veered off from the topic of protesting about gas prices. That is interesting too...I think 99% of us think that protesting against this will do nothing. That is probably why there is no protests. Also, some of the true hippies that I know don't drive. So I guess we're all a little into the selfish, how-does-it-affect-me mindset after all!
Great topic, sorry I rambled but this subject does interest me a great deal.

[ZappasXWife]

I also think why not pluto makes some excellent points.

[ToonaRockGuy]

I also think why not pluto makes some excellent points.

But there are also some things left out...

I, for one, am looking for a new job, because I can't afford to do the one that I have right now, because of gas prices. I am on the road daily for my current job, and am dropping anywhere from 75 - 125 dollars a week in gas. I can't afford that, and I don't drive a frickin' Hummer. I drive a Nissan Altima.

How many people will be forced to find new employment because of gas prices? Anyone think of that?

[Why not Pluto?]

Yes I will admit my point of view is more of an ideal than a real solution for todays screwed up economy. Also I realize that it is less than sensitive to those who are in a real financial pinch.
I am aware of the problems many people face, but there are still ways around them.
We were in the same boat as far as driving for work. My wife and I drive alot in search of the almighty dollar. I'm not saying it's for everyone but our answer came in the form of a toyota prius. We got one in good used condition for a good price and it has turned out to be a fantastic investment. It will eventually pay for itself in fuel savings alone. The higher gas goes the sooner this car pays for itself. Don't forget it may also be the best car for resale value. We also heat with wood because I hate buying (burning) oil with a passion.

If you cant afford* a prius then raise your tire pressure to at least 40. (check with the tire maker first) change your air filter and change the way you drive. Slow down when aprroaching red lights and sometimes you won,t have to stop. Turn off your lights, leave a space cushion so your not hitting the brakes as much. Turn off the a/c or use it only as a brake when descending hills. Look at the road ahead, predict your course so you can accelerate and brake smoothly. Get triple A and you can throw out your spare tire and tool kit. Clean out your trunk. Make sure your wheels spin free. Get a block heater and you will use less gas on warmups. Don't ever warm up your car just get in and drive nice for a minute. Idling is actually really bad for your engine. Keep your windows up on the highway. Follow a truck at a safe distance. Use thinner oil in the winter. Speed less and enjoy some music. I sincerely hope this helps someone. get more for less.

*We actually can't afford not to drive the prius.

[Colton]

Keep your windows up on the highway.

You have to or you cant light your pipe.


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