maybe a new Guitar?

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Thursday Nov 22, 2007

I was thinking about getting a new guitar. Anyone Ever tried the Ibanez RG370DX?
I think it looks awesome.

Or the Jackson DXMG

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Thursday Nov 22, 2007

Two tried and true designs that never seem to go stale.

I like the reverse headstock, and the dual hum design, but I also like the Blue Haze color on that RG.

It would be hard to decide, as they are both fairly equal in construction and hardware.
Do a price comparison and see if that includes a hardshell case and go from there.
I would say that you would be pleased w/ either one really.

If the black guitar didn't say Jackson on the headstock, I'd go with the Ibanez, but you know me.

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Thursday Nov 22, 2007

Shark Tooth inlays are awesome

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thursday Nov 22, 2007

A friend of mine is selling a MIJ Silver RG570 with SKB hardshell case for around $300. If you are interested, let me know and I'll PM his number.

Soulseeker · Post by **Soulseeker** » Saturday Nov 24, 2007

Ive played both of those guitars before, both are nice, i perfered the Ibanez. The Jackson would have taken a lot more work to get it to be great because the factory setup kind of sucked, it fretted out a lot around the middle of the neck. The Ibanez had an almost perfect setup.

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Saturday Nov 24, 2007

Im leaning towards the Ibanez. I love the color.

grimmbass · Post by **grimmbass** » Saturday Nov 24, 2007

If you're into the performance axes, try a Schecter or ESP LTD before you buy the Ibanez. I have to tell you, the setups on on the Schecter basses I've played have been AWESOME!

Another route to consider: Go USED on Ebay and get a much better guitar for the same $$$. My main axes are Spector Euro basses....they're going for $1600 new and you can get them used (in killer shape) for $600-$900 online.

Just my two cents....

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Saturday Nov 24, 2007

I have a Schecter now. I like it alot, but it goes out of tune too easy. I need something with a floyd.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Saturday Nov 24, 2007

Keith,

try Sperzel locking tuners or even grover on that schecter...

that would eliminate that problem; I have the same prob with my viper... it just has cheesy tuners and it pisses me off all the time

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

The Schecter has Grover tuners. It could use some better tuners i guess. i Like the guitar, but i just want something that wont let me down.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=361012

wow

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

my SG has grovers on it and I have probs with it from time to time... Jason loves his sperzels

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

There's absolutely no reason why a floyd rose guitar would stay in tune better than a non-trem guitar. In fact just the opposite. The reason floyd rose guitars have locking nuts is to attempt to counter the tuning problems inherent in vibratos.

If you buy a floyd rose guitar, you might very well end up with a guitar that stays in tune better, but it won't be because of the floyd rose.

Its always been my understanding that grover makes decent tuners, but nowadays every instrument under the sun comes stock with "grover tuners" so there has to be some kind of variation in the line.

With a guitar with a fixed bridge, you shouldn't need locking tuners anyway, unless you do a ton of bends.

Here's a set of grover locking tuners for a lot less than the sperzels
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guit ... _3L3R.html

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

My one Dean has a fixed bridge with Grover tuners,it stays in tune pretty well other than the 3rd string,it goes out from time to time. Grovers are good tuners,you need to make sure you get plenty of wraps around the tuning peg plus I've read(never tried it yet) that guys graphite the nut where the string goes thru to let it slip. I still prefer a locking system any day of the week.

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

Well, i had to tune like every song or every other song @ the show Wednesday. Same with at practice. im getting tired of it. its a string-thru body. if locking tuners will take care of the prob, ill go for them. i bought the guitar off rockpage from a dude. its had its share of probs.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

With a guitar with a fixed bridge, you shouldn't need locking tuners anyway, unless you do a ton of bends

I would disagree with this; but only because different tunings can cause some serious issues depending on guage of strings... and that damn G string... I hate that string.... plus stringing a fixed bridge guitar with the sperzel is so easy its stupid

I think there is some lack of quality with some of the grovers that are being installed on the 400-1000 dollar guitars... I know this first hand

a double locking Floyd almost never falls out of tune, but requires maintenance if u use the trem

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

I think ill get the Sperzels for the schecter and STILL get a new guitar with a floyd.

I like the Schecter, but using it when it isnt 100% sucks assflaps.

Those Sperzels really have me intrigued! thanks Chad!!!

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

Well, i had to tune like every song or every other song @ the show Wednesday

that seriously can ruin your own personal enjoyment for sure... I had one of those evenings recently and thats why I took the junk licensed floyd off of my guitar. have u thought maybe about bumping up your string guage just a little? maybe u play too hard for the guage u are using? I am going to bump up on my fixed bridge guitars because of that reason

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

I never considered that. I use D'Addario 10-46. Lowest ive ever used.
I bought a 3 pack. I used heavier gauge strings before, but was told this would be better.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

what do u tune to?

how hard do u play?

do u bend a lot?

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

onegunguitar wrote:Grovers are good tuners,you need to make sure you get plenty of wraps around the tuning peg

I hadn't thought about this. I've never looked at the way you string your guitar, but that can be a huge factor. If you just have one or two wraps going any which way, you are bound to have tuning problems (obviously a floyd rose with a locking nut is unaffected by this)

I'm trying to find a decent picture, but you want to start your string through the post, and then wrap subsequent wraps underneath the starting wrap, so that your string exits the tuning post at the bottom of the tuning peg (towards the headstock) I don't know how many wraps you'd need with a guitar, but I string this way and I don't have any tuning problems. I'm sure the tuners on that fretless are junk anyway.

this is the closest picture I can find.

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

I tune to D,G,C,F,A,D I dont play crazy low tunings.

I cant tell how hard i play. It varies depending on mood, and the song.
I bend enough i guess.
Either way, something has to be done.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

Keith,

one other question... is your guitar intonated for the tuning that u are currently using... I used to play in two bands and both bands used different tunings and I only had one bass... and boy I could tell when I was jamming with band B that my bass was not right at all... even though the open strings were in tune I would have to bend into the notes on the 7-12 frets. It even becomes more asinine when you are trying to get the correct pitch of the seventh fret and u are grabbing it on the 6th and trying to bend up to the correct pitch

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

I tune to D,G,C,F,A,D I dont play crazy low tunings

it would seem that the 10-46 guage u are using is reasonable...

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

Chad, Ill be honest...I have NO CLUE if its intonated right. I dont know how to set up a guitar @ all.
Luckily, both End of the Sun and Team Transylvania use the same tuning.

Killjingle · Post by **Killjingle** » Sunday Nov 25, 2007

Keith....

call Scott right away on this. Hes a real smart dude who is always willing to help u. He can help u intonate this because thats where u need to start. I would personally like to have it put on a strobe tuner; but Bushy can put u pretty damn close