For Drummers: Pedal Question

RonS · Post by **RonS** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

Greetings,
I've been using two old pedals for years and i'm ready to replace them.
Thinking about DW 5000, 7000, or 9000 series.
Just not sure what the difference is between them.
Any of you have any preference?

My pedals are Nylon, and i like the feel, but are chain pedals better?
I know i can get the DWs with Nylon, just wondering how chain pedals differ?

thanks

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

What pedals are you using? It's all about preference and trying things out. I have strap drive, I like them a lot!

nightcrawler_steve · Post by **nightcrawler_steve** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

Ron,

I have the DW 9000.

I think its all personal preference, but.... The 9000 just has a solid feel and is butter smooth and lightening fast. You have the cababilty to offset the sproket to make it a turbo or accelerator. You have to be familiar with DW pedals to know the difference I think. I had always played the DW 5000 and cant believe the difference in the 9000.

Its a pricey pedal though. There is also a new pedal from a company called Trick.

Hope this helps.

PS. Im sure if youre totally in love with nylon, you could fit any pedal you buy with it.

ToonaRockGuy · Post by **ToonaRockGuy** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

There are lots of options out there. Right now, the two pedals that seem to be the industry standard are the DW9000 and the Pearl Eliminator. The DW is somewhat pricey, but I've heard nothing but great things about it. The Pearl pedal is cool because you can change the cams out to adjust to your playing style. I personally use a Tama Iron Cobra, mainly because I have a very heavy foot and it's built like a friggin' tank. You'll also want to check out the Yamaha Flying Dragon, Axis pedals, and the new Gibraltar Intruder pedals too.

The Trick Pro-1V Detonator is a pedal I would die for, but it is WAY priced out of my market.

DrumAndDestroy · Post by **DrumAndDestroy** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

I am partital to the Iron Cobra...it is by far the best purchase I have ever made as far as my drumming career goes.

I've played the Pearl Eliminator and the changable cams are neat-o.

General idea here is...try some out and go with what you like.

RonS · Post by **RonS** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

Thanks to all of you.

I think i'm might go with two Pearl Eliminator P-2000B

I watched Rob's doublekick vid on youtube and liked they way those pedals responded.
Granted i don't know the difference between DWs turbo and accelerator settings, but this pedal comes with 4 cams, so i'm sure i can find a fit, and they fall with in my budget.

again, thanks a lot.

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

I'm getting Single Tricks on my new kit.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Friday Oct 19, 2007

I like a direct drive pedal, so I use the Yamaha direct drive. But as you can see, everyone has a differing opinion.

Do yourself a favor and go to Dale's Drum Shop, or see what Music Emporium has in stock, and PLAY all of them.

I had a Pearl Power Shifter Eliminator. Hated it. Too many adjustments. NEVER got done tweaking that thing.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Saturday Oct 20, 2007

Hawk wrote:I like a direct drive pedal, so I use the Yamaha direct drive. But as you can see, everyone has a differing opinion.

Do yourself a favor and go to Dale's Drum Shop, or see what Music Emporium has in stock, and PLAY all of them.

I had a Pearl Power Shifter Eliminator. Hated it. Too many adjustments. NEVER got done tweaking that thing.

Yea, well you suck!

homerski · Post by **homerski** » Saturday Oct 20, 2007

I recently bought a DW 7000 (chain drive) and I love it. Nice fast response, but plenty of power for the stuff we (Flood City Brass) do. But like others have said, it depends alot on what you want out of it. I bought mine at Guitar Center in Monroeville. They have them all lined up, so you can try them out.

JH

redawg · Post by **redawg** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

I'm torn between the Tama Iron Cobra and the DW 9000.

I liked Axis and the Ludwig Speed King for different reasons. They're just "different" in feel. DW 7000's as long as Jarrets kept the hinges in stock

DW 7000's one chain on one sprocket kept pulling in different directions and never wanted to line up if my foot didn't push the pedal exactly straight every stroke

That's what makes me like duel chain pedals the best. Danny Carey uses Pearl Power Shifters (can't remember if strap or chain, I think strap) with the blue cams in them. That's why I keep trying to like them. Hawk is right about them. Too many tweaks to do to them. Unless you were going from the blue, white or black to the red cam, it was hard to tell the difference in feel to me. As BDR would say, thoughts? Oh, I'm going with DW 9000's or DW Titanium's for now.

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Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

No one uses Axis Longboard Pedals??

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

Team Transylvania wrote:No one uses Axis Longboard Pedals??

I tried one at Dale's. The same day I tried a Trick. I loved the Trick. The Axis longborad was a disappointment. Had a strange feel. Perhaps it takes time to get used to.

I like my Yamaha, but if I had money to waste, I'd buy a Trick.

Team Transylvania · Post by **Team Transylvania** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

Ive never heard of a Trick. Ill have to google it.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

Team Transylvania wrote:Ive never heard of a Trick. Ill have to google it.

Hands down the best pedal on the market. But it will empty your pocket.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

BTW, where's the thread starter on this ?

DrumAndDestroy · Post by **DrumAndDestroy** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

has anyone tried the dualist?

seems a little too stupid for the price!

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Sunday Oct 21, 2007

Dualist is a gimmick! Elims rock, just gotta take the time and get it to where it feels good to ya!

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Monday Oct 22, 2007

I think pedals reflect certain styles of music. Pedals like Trick and Axis wouldn't be a good application for anything like jazz, fusion, rock. Trick was developed by an independent company with collaboration from Richard Christy. The Axis double pedal, I know for a fact are junk, there is alot of shaft and cam problems. The more popular pedals like Ludwig's speed king,Tama's Iron Cobra,and Pearl's eliminator are probably the most versatile pedals because they can be used in most styles.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Monday Oct 22, 2007

Lifer wrote:I think pedals reflect certain styles of music. Pedals like Trick and Axis wouldn't be a good application for anything like jazz, fusion, rock. Trick was developed by an independent company with collaboration from Richard Christy. The Axis double pedal, I know for a fact are junk, there is alot of shaft and cam problems. The more popular pedals like Ludwig's speed king,Tama's Iron Cobra,and Pearl's eliminator are probably the most versatile pedals because they can be used in most styles.

Huh ? Where do you get such info, or have you used all of them ?

Axis can have a very light feel, but if you like that feel, it will fit with any genre. Trick is probably the most versatile of all of them (in that the feel is adjustable). With the exception of 3 million adjustment possibilities on the Power Shifter Eliminator and what ? about a 1/2 dozen cams.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Tuesday Oct 23, 2007

Hello,

your choice of DW products is the best one you can make, any of the DW series of pedals is good, there chain is not noisy when it comes to recording, so don't worry about that if that's your concern, I have a 9000 series and i've never had a pedal work so easy and with very little effort, there delta II seires is another good one and it's very easy to use as well.
good luck

Lifer · Post by **Lifer** » Tuesday Oct 23, 2007

Trick was developed by a couple death metal drummers. Axis and Trick are metal pedals. Look at most metal drummers, and then look at most rock or jazz drummers. You'll then see.