9/11 documentary

[metalchurch]

please don't leave Punkinhead, you're one of the coolest guys on here.
Believe me, I've been at that point already and just wanted to say fuck it myself. There's alot of stuff that I don't agree on, but There's alot of stuff I do, and I have learned alot on here about all kinds of things. The only bitch that I really have is that there isn't enough music related things and more BS everyday life crap, but I guess sometimes that stuff needs to be read/heard, whatever.
I'll miss you my darling. (your avatar)
LOL
Please re consider!!

[whitedevilone]

I know bro,i'm sorry i'm just making it all up.Forget i said anything.There's gotta be something on TV.

[DirtySanchez]

Wait. Did he just quit RP cuz, someone agreed with him?
I'm confused, I thought in order to argue you needed differing points of view. Guess not.

[songsmith]

Yah, I agreed with him completely. Sorry, Punkinhead, I don't know what you thought I meant, but apparently I wasn't clear. My apologies.--->JMS

[MatchstikDrummer]

You can't dispute the truth
Quotes from the Qur'an ...the religious text of Islam

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry [being non-Muslim] is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121)

[songsmith]

You certainly can't dispute the truth. See also: The Crusades, The Dark Ages, The Black Plague, Conquistadors, Galileo, Copernicus, The Spanish Inquisition, Manifest Destiny, African Missionary Movement vis a vis slavery, Salem Witch Trials, The Ku Klux Klan, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, Ted Haggard, The Moral Majority sex scandals, and a thousand Catholic priests.
Your move. ------------>JMS

[bassist_25]

The world would just be a better place if everyone converted to Rastafarianism. People would be too beaned up to commit genocide on each other.

[nakedtwister]

The world would just be a better place if everyone converted to Rastafarianism. People would be too beaned up to commit genocide on each other.

Ya Man!!!!

[DirtySanchez]

Sit at home and play atari, smoke my pot like Rastafari.

[MatchstikDrummer]

That's right you can't dispute the truth...all of that happened without a doubt...All I'm saying with my previous post is that those who do not research to find the truth shouldn't claim to know it...Many Muslim Clerics have been on TV preaching that Islam is a religion of Peace and tolerance thinking no one would do the research and read the Qu'ran....well...the truth is it does teach Muslims to be tolerant and Peaceful when they want to be, and only toward other muslims. The Profit Muhammad states those who do not accept my teachings shall die by the sword...I work with many Muslims in my vicinity on a daily basis and not one of them has ever disputed any of my statements...in fact a few have stated that they just choose not to follow those aspects of their Religion.

[whitedevilone]

Almost all active warfare based disputes around the world right now involve muslims who can't get along with their neighbors.Sorry to always be the wet blanket on everybody's liberal lovefest.

[YankeeRose]

I thought I knew a little bit about Geography...I never realized Iraq or ANY Middle Eastern country for that matter, was the United States' "neighbor".




"Give me Liberty (...and beans! If only I knew who/where to obtain them... ), or give me death."




Someone (A woman I have never even met.) sent the following e-mail to me. I did not go to any of the links, have no idea about the show mentioned, what a put option is, or much of anything about the Stock Market, for that matter...but some of it is interesting, especially if any of it turns out to be factual.
ENJOY.




Date:    Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 2:42am Subject:    Urgent Warning - signs of possible attack - stand down on 9/14, put options, no flights.



Air Force fighters and bombers will stand down on Sept. 14 and not be ready for prompt action, an Israeli airline has no flights leaving NY on Sept. 14, billions in put options are betting the market will crash by Sept 21, nuclear bombs were moved against regulations, and it is possible that one is still missing. 
 
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SEPT 14, AIR FORCE FIGHTERS & BOMBERS WILL STAND DOWN
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=109187
 
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ACC orders commandwide standdown Friday  
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/ ... wn_070807/
On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command bases.
The entire command "about 100,000 active-duty airmen" is standing down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide safety day.
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AIR FORCE TIMES CONFIRMS: ENTIRE U.S. AIR FORCE WILL STAND DOWN THIS FRIDAY! CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES WILL HAVE ZERO FIGHTER AIRCRAFT TO PROTECT THE NATION
http://www.halturnershow.com/
 
Despite our own CIA Director making a rare public speech claiming
Al-Qaida is planning "high-impact attacks against the U.S. Homeland", our Air Force has taken steps to make our entire country vulnerable to such attacks on September 14. In an order given to all fighter pilots and bomber pilots, the entire U.S. Air Force will "stand down" on Friday September 14. We will have ZERO air defense for the entire country on that day!
They have ordered this stand down after five nuclear bombs were "accidentally shipped by plane from Minot AFB in North Dakota to Bartsdale AFB in Louisiana on a B-52 bomber. The military says they need to stand down to go over nuclear protocols.
What is very odd about this order is that Fighter jets NEVER carry nuclear bombs. Only Bombers carry nuclear warheads. So why are fighter pilots also being ordered to stand down? If a terrorist attack takes place on September 14, then we know that our own government made it possible with a military stand-down order. If such an attack takes place, we the people of the United States will be left with no choice but to exercise our "original right of self defense" and remove our government from power by any and all means necessary, barring nothing.
Those in government are hereby warned: If your stand down order allows a terrorist attack to occur, we will come for you.
 
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On the same day the U.S. Air Force will be standing down.
Hal Turner Show
Address:http://www.halturnershow.com/
ISRAELI AIRLINE HAS "NO FLIGHTS" DEPARTING NEW YORK ON FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 14:
NOTE THEY AREN'T SAYING "NO SEATS AVAILABLE" BUT INSTEAD "NO FLIGHT"
Strange that the main airline in Israel suddenly has "no flight" from the biggest Jewish population center outside of Israel on the very same day that the entire US Air Force will be "standing down."
A lot of people said that 4,000 Jews didn't show up to work at the World Trade Center in New York on 9-11. Jews seemed to "know" some big attack was going to take place that day and they didn't go to work. By the way, on 9-11, the U.S. Air Force was ordered to "stand down" while those attacks were taking place. Here we are six years later, the neo-cons are taking all sorts of flak over the Iraq war; the US economy is headed into financial collapse, the Jews still want the US to attack Iran but they can't overcome public opinion so. . . . . . another "terrorist attack" on the US would do the trick!
Strange then, that El Al has no flights from NYC on Friday Sept. 14. . . Is this a HINT? Do the Jews know something about Sept 14 the way they seemed to know about 9-11??
 
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MASSIVE WALL STREET PUT OPTIONS SIGNAL UPCOMING TERROR ATTACK
Address:http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/business090407.htm
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BILLIONS IN PUT OPTIONS PURCHASED BETTING THAT THE MARKET WILL CRASH BY 9-21
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=108416
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Ohio Congressman Dies
Ranking Member House Committee on Financial Institutions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/s ... 82,00.html
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Why he was killed
Hal Turner Show
Address:http://www.halturnershow.com/
 
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http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmq ... i6M5zdr9IA
B-52 carried nuclear armed cruise missiles by mistake: US
WASHINGTON (AFP) -- A B-52 bomber flew the length of the United States last week loaded with six nuclear-armed cruise missiles in a major security breach, US military officials said Wednesday.
The lapse was reported to President George W. Bush after the nuclear warheads were discovered when the aircraft landed at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, a military official said on condition of
anonymity.

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Comment by 1BQ | 2007-09-06 00:33:58
Apparently, the tritium wasn't loaded in the warheads, so they couldn't be detonated. Of more concern to me is the statement in the Military Times article,
"Air Combat Command will have a command-wide mission standdown Sept. 14 to review their procedures in response to this oversight." Neocons say that a "date certain"� withdrawal from Iraq helps Al Quaeda by giving them a date after which they can attack with impunity. If that's true, how much worse is it that the Air Force announced that all flights of fighters and bombers in the United States will be halted on September 14?
 
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"Barksdale Air Force Base is being used as a jumping off point for Middle East operations."
Lots of interesting discussion about the purpose of the movement of the nukes:


http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007/ ... -have.html
 
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On Aug. 30th we had the B-52 nuke incident, no one knows for sure if there were 5 or 6 nukes. If there were 6, ONE IS MISSING.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=109306
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So, should we sit back and see if something really happens on Sept. 14th, or do all we can to alert others to the possibility, so the chances are reduced? It would seem that if thousands of people were aware of these warning signs, it could stop an attack. I prefer for it not to happen and have people think I'm crazy, than to have it happen and wish I had spread the word.





(End of e-mail. I did REALLY like the one part that said we the people will be coming for those in our government. )

[mjb]

when is iraq going to hook us up with oil? $2.39 a gal for heating oil this year. that bites.

you know, a little somethin for the effort.

[songsmith]

Liberal lovefest? Sounds like a tried-and-true dittohead. As someone who isn't an Oxy/Vicodin junkie, and doesn't suffer from erectile dysfunction, and makes less than $10M per year, and doesn't own castles all over Florida, and doesn't need to have someone think for me, I see Rush as nothing more than propagandatainment. C'mon, he's just a big soft loveable narcissist Brownshirt. I'm a moderate independent, and we all see him as sort of a Larry The Cable Guy for old people... he's funny, as long as you don't put too much thought into what he says.

And Yankee, I love ya, but the Air Force will never have stand-down orders like that. As messed up as the Commander-In-Chief and his crew are, any airman past or present (myself included) would tell you that threats such as this are faced with great relish, not backed down from. Such a thing would be a political bonanza for the far right. They've been using the threat of terrorism on our soil to attain and retain power for the last 6 years. A clear and present danger would be exactly what the GOP needs to get reelected, because otherwise, they're going down with the Iraq ship.
Whatcha got right there is internet rumor. File it with your pre-approved credit card and male enhancement e-mails. ------->JMS

[RobTheDrummer]

Iraq isn't as bad as you people make it out to be. We are making progress over there, slowly, but it's happening. We've killed tenfold the al-quaida than have been killed of our troops (how many al-quaida have they killed? They only give American death tolls). Iraq wants us over there to help them! Fact is, most of the people killing our troops are from other countries. Our troops over there know they are doing a noble thing and volunteered to go over there. They don't want to see their efforts become nothing. Seriously, this is a war, we've only lost around 4,000 troops in the 4 years we've been there. That's pretty light compared to any other war. Also, what's your solution liberals, what's the outcome of your solution?

[witchhunt]

A clear and present danger would be exactly what the GOP needs to get reelected, because otherwise, they're going down with the Iraq ship.

SO well worded.

[Primates]

Iraq isn't as bad as you people make it out to be. We are making progress over there, slowly, but it's happening. We've killed tenfold the al-quaida than have been killed of our troops (how many al-quaida have they killed? They only give American death tolls). Iraq wants us over there to help them! Fact is, most of the people killing our troops are from other countries. Our troops over there know they are doing a noble thing and volunteered to go over there. They don't want to see their efforts become nothing. Seriously, this is a war, we've only lost around 4,000 troops in the 4 years we've been there. That's pretty light compared to any other war. Also, what's your solution liberals, what's the outcome of your solution?

Right fucking there man. Dead on. What he said!^^

[witchhunt]

Seriously, this is a war, we've only lost around 4,000 troops in the 4 years we've been there. That's pretty light

Man, that's terrible. "We're sorry Mrs. Jones, your son won't be coming home in an upright position. But look at the bright side, only 4000 troops have died so far."

[Hawk]

Iraq isn't as bad as you people make it out to be. We are making progress over there, slowly, but it's happening. We've killed tenfold the al-quaida than have been killed of our troops (how many al-quaida have they killed? They only give American death tolls). Iraq wants us over there to help them! Fact is, most of the people killing our troops are from other countries. Our troops over there know they are doing a noble thing and volunteered to go over there. They don't want to see their efforts become nothing. Seriously, this is a war, we've only lost around 4,000 troops in the 4 years we've been there. That's pretty light compared to any other war. Also, what's your solution liberals, what's the outcome of your solution?

Damn you piss me off ! You just plain don' t know anything about what is going on over there.

Where is the progress ? If you mean 1000 soldiers protecting an area where kids are going to school, Then what do you think will happen when the soldiers leave ? School closed. If you think that is progress, then you must agree with Bush , in that the soldiers will NEVER be able to leave. NEVER will we be able to leave if you want to keep that school open !

That's not progress ! That's us, the USA, standing there protecting them.

There is no viable government there. Never will be ! They are in the midst of a civil war. That's a fact. The Sunnis hate the Shiite's. If one side sees the us as helping their cause to wipe out the other side, they will pretend to be our friends. The WANT us on their side to help control the other side. The Iraqi police are so corrupt that they are part of the attempt to wipe out the other side.

The only way to win is to kill all the Muslims and that just isn't right, and it won't happen !

The war in Iraq cannot be won ! If you love this damn war so much, why haven't you joined. It sounds like 4000 deaths doesn't mean much to you ! Since there is no ending to this war, how many deaths is too many ? Is there any point that you will say enough is enough.

"we've ONLY lost around 4000....................." That is the height of arrogance ! Only lost 4000 in a war we shouldn't even be in.

How many injured do we have ? 10,000 - 20,000 ? Don't they count ?

I don't get your cold hearted attitude ?

I'm not against war, I'm against an UNJUST war !

[RobTheDrummer]

Seriously, this is a war, we've only lost around 4,000 troops in the 4 years we've been there. That's pretty light

Man, that's terrible. "We're sorry Mrs. Jones, your son won't be coming home in an upright position. But look at the bright side, only 4000 troops have died so far."

Either that, or your whole family gets killed by a terrorist attack on the states. These boys die for us, and you feel that you should just pull out and make the ones that did sacrifice themselves do so for no reason? They volunteer to do this, what don't you understand? I could see if we forced someone to do this. War is war, I just wish they didn't handcuff the troops and let them kill before they get killed. You people have no spine, that's why we are going to lose the war on the muslim fanatics. A hell of a lot more than 4,000 troops are going to die.

[Hawk]

For those of you who think religion is the root of all wars.

I say greed is the root of all war. There are those in power who use religion as a vale so as to not expose their greed.

Who's making all the money on this war ? That's where the greed is.

Seems to me Haliburton (who is leaving the USA) is making Billions on this war. And who gave them all the contracts BEFORE the war even started ? AHHHHHH that would be Bush.

I was just talking to someone who was there. He said a company came in and boarded up the windows on his barracks, for $250,000.00. That was a "make it safer" attempt.

[Hawk]

Seriously, this is a war, we've only lost around 4,000 troops in the 4 years we've been there. That's pretty light

Man, that's terrible. "We're sorry Mrs. Jones, your son won't be coming home in an upright position. But look at the bright side, only 4000 troops have died so far."

Either that, or your whole family gets killed by a terrorist attack on the states. These boys die for us, and you feel that you should just pull out and make the ones that did sacrifice themselves do so for no reason? They volunteer to do this, what don't you understand? I could see if we forced someone to do this. War is war, I just wish they didn't handcuff the troops and let them kill before they get killed. You people have no spine, that's why we are going to lose the war on the muslim fanatics. A hell of a lot more than 4,000 troops are going to die.

If you think that the war is stopping terrorism in the US then you are a fool. There is no way to stop someone who wants to walk into a mall with a bomb strapped to their back.

The 4000 dead already died for nothing. Why don't you get that. Iraq had nothing to do with 9 /11 !

Why should another 10,000 die for nothing.

In twenty years the war will not end, so after 20,000 more deaths we should come home , huh ? I mean WHEN ?

[HarleyRo1]

Let's face it...in any religion there are the individuals who go outside of the basic teachings and beliefs and turn into rogues ....Jim Jones....Pedifile Priests...Osama Bin Laden...Hitler...and the list continues. As long as the world is made up of different religions, beliefs and value systems, we will have controversy.

[RobTheDrummer]

Man, that's terrible. "We're sorry Mrs. Jones, your son won't be coming home in an upright position. But look at the bright side, only 4000 troops have died so far."

Either that, or your whole family gets killed by a terrorist attack on the states. These boys die for us, and you feel that you should just pull out and make the ones that did sacrifice themselves do so for no reason? They volunteer to do this, what don't you understand? I could see if we forced someone to do this. War is war, I just wish they didn't handcuff the troops and let them kill before they get killed. You people have no spine, that's why we are going to lose the war on the muslim fanatics. A hell of a lot more than 4,000 troops are going to die.

If you think that the war is stopping terrorism in the US then you are a fool. There is no way to stop someone who wants to walk into a mall with a bomb strapped to their back.

The 4000 dead already died for nothing. Why don't you get that. Iraq had nothing to do with 9 /11 !

Why should another 10,000 die for nothing.

In twenty years the war will not end, so after 20,000 more deaths we should come home , huh ? I mean WHEN ?

We're keeping the fight over there. We aren't stopping terrorism right now, but we are bringing them out of the clockwork. 4000 did not die for nothing, you of all people should be proud of the work they are doing over there. When have we been attacked last? If we just pull out of Iraq, we're gonna end up there in a few years anyway, also, terrorists will take over and have the oil and money on top of it. I say we stick it out and win this thing, give Iraq their new government that can control who comes in and out and lead to a more peaceful state than before.

By the way, the world right now is more peaceful than it's been in years.

[MatchstikDrummer]

Hey did you ever stop and think about how if you were in a small country you as a people could win a war with a large Nation like the US???
DIVIDED WE FALL.....you sit back and allow these politicians bicker back and forth on why we went and why we're still there....It doesn't matter any more...we are there and our brothers are dying...Iraq is not stable enough to protect themselves from foreign involvement if we leave now...there is a new reason to be there and that is to try and establish a stable Iraq without promoting more religious extremism...no matter what your Politicians say, we must tell them to get together and create a bi-partisan solution not for political gain but because that's what they're elected for...making our Nation the greatest in the world...Unite and this won't become another Vietnam....continue down this path we're heading and have been since this war began and We Will Fall...Bill and Rob you guys are a great example of what this country doesn't need politically, but exactly what it needs emotionally....and I respect both of you for it!