New 5150 III

[evh5150]

I just tried a new 5150 III and I am impressed, I don't know about 2k impressed, I still like the sig 5150 I got and the Fender metal head I also use, If i were to use my peavey 5150 cab or my fender metal head cab(celestion hot 100's) how much do you think my sound would be altered or lessened from the 1100 dollar matching cab??If I got the new 5150 III?

[bassist_25]

It's really difficult to say. You almost have to test a head out with a cab - on a gig of course, because the music store/living room doesn't really tell you much about a piece of equipment - and decide from there. The original 5150s were basically backwards-engineered Soldanos. I have no idea what the new generation are like. Nothing against Peavey, almost every piece of their equipment that I've used has been very solid and quality-built, but $1100 for a Peavey cab is just insane, when the same amount of money can buy a cabinet from Diezel, Bogner, Mesa, Orange, or Buddha.

[metalchurch]

The 5150 III is being made by Fender, I have an article about it, and an interview with Van Halen.

The Celestion 'EVH G-12' speaker are only available with the 5150 III cab, so that sucks, other wise you could reload your cab with those.

It looks like it Kills. I would love to hear it. I was considering a 6505+ Head, but went rack mount. I often wonder what I missed out on?

[bassist_25]

The 5150 III is being made by Fender, I have an article about it, and an interview with Van Halen.

Wow, interesting. I can forgive the price then...a little bit. Still, $1100 is putting you in Diezel/Bogner/Soldano territory, and if I'm going to pay a boutique price for a cab, then I want a boutique cab. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way. If the cabs are truly worth that amount of coin, then I suppose that they are truly worth that amount of coin. I've never heard a bad sounding Fender guitar amp. I was really impressed with Scott's MH when Fedup opened for us a few weeks ago.

Anyways, I digress. Your ears are going to be the most important factor in deciding whether a cab's for you or not. I'd say take your cabinet into the store and A/B the head with its matching cab and then your cab. I'm not a guitar player, so I don't have as much experience with a lot of this gear. In terms of bass gear, when you get to a certain quality-level, then the differences between certain cabinets become very small. You'll hear a world of difference between an Epifani bass cab and something from Gallien-Kruger's Backline series, but you're not going to hear those big differences between an Epifani and an Eden or an Aguilar or a Bergentino or an EA cab. Then again, the trend in highend bass cabinet engineering is to go for a flat response. Guitar players mix and match speakers and cabinets to change their sound. When we bass players want colorization, we just add tubes to our rigs.

[metalchurch]

Paul, 3 reasons why that shit is so expensive, regardless of who is making it:

E V and H

Hahaha!

I'm sure I'm not too far off on this.

[lonewolf]

If you are thinking of spending 4 figures on a cab, check this company out. They are some of the best cabs out there and they do custom jobs too. If you register on their web site, it automatically knocks 33% from the prices listed. The Marshall style 4x12 lists for $457.50 but drops to $305 once you log in:

http://www.mojomusicalsupply.com/cabinets.asp?id=44972

[bassist_25]

Paul, 3 reasons why that shit is so expensive, regardless of who is making it:

E V and H

Hahaha!

I'm sure I'm not too far off on this.

Yeah, that's what I was trying to say in so many words. Eddie seems to be plugging all kinds of gear with his name on it these days. Well, I suppose he has to make the Benjamins somehow now that VH has become such a joke over the last couple of years.

[metalchurch]

Yeah, he has 'EVH' as a registered Trademark now, and everyone wants their cut of the pie, so the prices climb higher.

Ever see the Charvel 'EVH' ?

$2,100 and some change!!
I can build one better for ALOT less than that, and with the same quality components.

There is really nothing special about it, just a paint job, and an EVH sticker on the Headstock, other than that, just another Charvel.

He does deserve alot of credit toward being one of the first people to Hot Rod a guitar, and since, there have been alot of innovations in the industry.
As well as his playing.

I've always been more of a Rhoads fan, but I'm always one to give credit where it's due.

He hasn't really been up to par with his career moves lately, but he's Eddie Van Halen, he can do what he wants.

Lonewolf, that is a cool website. I always wondered if there were companies that sold Empty cabs and Head boxes. Thanks.

[old Skool]

That cabinet would be "voiced" for that head but I'm sure other quality cabs would do fine as well. It all depends on the tone you're looking for. I was talking to a friend the other day who was really talking up Splawn amps. He said you can get the infamous brown sound out of it as well as George Lynch tones ala the Back for The Attack era. The Splawn is in the same price range as the 5150 III. Most everything I've read on that 5150 III has been good as well, except for the price.

[evh5150]

i had the original 5150 for years and liked it I recently got the fender metal head because its just versital, but the thing I am also finding is the guitar has alot to do with the tone I seek , I never really noticed that before the metal head sounds better with very powerful pickups where my 5150 I loved the sound of it with my strat hs3's I will consider the 5150 3 after I test it out more , but what I won't ever consider is the 22 thousand dollar replica thats just nuts !!!

[metalchurch]

My buddy Paul is going for the Yngwie sound, he plays alot of that style. He got the Marshall 1987X Head, but he could not control it with his EMG's. It was too much. So he sold it and bought a Fender Roc Pro 1000 head like Yngwie used on a few albums, and man he has the tone now. It's so amazing that for $200.00 he got that nice of a sound.
So I guess it's not always the most expensive shit you can buy, it's mixing and matching shit up until you find that elusive tone. I'm getting closer to getting the sound that I have in my mind, but it will change, it always does.
The never ending search for tone, we've all been there before.
I watched your youtube footage, it's awesome!

[evh5150]

thanks man and I have tried the rockpro and was also impressed fender amps do allow you to capture that yngwie sound in the videos I was plugged directly into my fender stage 100 head and it allows me to capture similar to yngwies album tones for years I played through a fender m80 that I bought from jarretts in altoona and at low volume it has a amazing straight forward tone so it is not how much you spend at all !!! its about getting what you are looking for !

[bassist_25]

He got the Marshall 1987X Head, but he could not control it with his EMG's.

A man much wiser than myself once said, "Let your gain come from your amp, not from your pickups."

[metalchurch]

Yeah, the Amp was too hot for his setup. It was a 50 watt version, and with his EMG's and the Yngwie YJM 308 pedal, it was too much, he couldn't push it very hard. He doesn't use all that much gain anyway, he's not into the raging metal tone, just a nice hot blues sound, kind of hard to explain.