drug screening

[bassball]

Hi people,
I need some help. I have to take a drug test for a new job next week. I'm pretty sure it will be a urine test. I checked out some products on some web sites but you never know. If anyone has tried a method that works for sure, please let me know. Someone told me that a few days of abstainence and a lot of cranberry juice and green tea will do the trick. Any help would be appreciated. Oh yeah, I'm beans only. Fairly heavy.

[metalchurch]

The only method that I found was to find someone that doesn't do drugs, and have them piss in a cup for you and then drink it right before your test. Kind of salty, but it does the trick.

No, really I'm not sure. I heard of flushes that work, but I always pass on grass, and the like, when I'm going for a job.

[PanzerFaust]

Yea don't buy the hype on all those old wives tales....

Abstinence for as long as possible is the best method and make sure your specimen is not the first urine of the day...

Good news is your body gets rid of stuff faster than the rumor mill lets on and the tests have gotten more liberal with what's "hot" over the years..




*You should listen to him he's pre-med..
*I thought he was pre-law?

*pre-med .. pre-law ... What's the difference?

[Colton]

drink it!?
how about engineer some little zip lock baggy and a tube so you can just use your freind's urine....

[metalchurch]

Yeah man chug that piss right down the 'ole jiblet!
Just don't gargle, you don't wanna have piss breathe when you walk in the doors.

[ToonaRockGuy]

Simple...don't do drugs.

[Colton]

Simple...don't do drugs.

I was waiting for that. Think its a little late for that bullshit now.

[RobTheDrummer]

drink tons of water and don't exercise.

[sixstringdrop]

The only method that I found was to find someone that doesn't do drugs, and have them piss in a cup for you and then drink it right before your test. Kind of salty, but it does the trick.

No, really I'm not sure. I heard of flushes that work, but I always pass on grass, and the like, when I'm going for a job.

Now that is the most ghetto`ist shit i have heard in a long ass time metalchurch..and about your test there bassball.. i would recommend getting some black tape a hand warmer and a vanilla extract container that is empty and cleaned out ... so what u wanna do is get some clean piss ... put it in the container then tape it to your leg ... and put the handwarmer in your pocket ... then when it comes time to piss use the handwarmer and heat up the piss and dump it in the cup/test ...then put the vanilla extract bottle back in your pocket and there ya go problem solved ...

[ToonaRockGuy]

Simple...don't do drugs.

I was waiting for that. Think its a little late for that bullshit now.

Fine. Here's what guys in the Navy did to beat a test:

1. Get a cotton ball, some Clorox bleach, and some plastic wrap.

2. Soak the cotton ball in bleach, then put it in the plastic wrap, and put it in your front jeans pocket.

3. Test time. As you are unzipping, slide your thumb into your pocket and get it wet with bleach. Unbuckling your belt and unbuttoning your jeans are suggested to increase soaking time.

4. Piss down your thumb.

Guaranteed to FUBAR the test, and if you stay clean by the time you re-take it, you'll pass with flying colors.

There, Colton. Satisfied?

[RamRod 1]

Are we talking pot? That stays in the longest.

Definately don't smoke between now and the test. Depending in how much you smoke, there are 2 methods. Dilute or Substitute. If you're not real poluted and you have a week to dry out, you can dilute. Never use an additive which is what you "pour" into your sample. They almost never work.

Basic dilute:

Drink water the day of the test. It will do no more good to drink liquids all week long. It won't hurt but that's a myth. You need to dilute your sample and get your nanogram level down to an acceptable level. 50 nanograms is pretty standrad but some are lower. If you're doing it on the cheep, take a multiple vitimin to "color" your urine yellow so the testing people don't suspect that you're diluting.

Your 1st piss in the morning is the hottest because you "metabolize" while you sleep. Never give you 1st morning piss for a "Sample"

Example:

Get up in the morning and "Piss".

Drink 3 or 4 cups of water and and take a Muliti vitimin. Maybe have a cup of coffee too. That will help the piss roll out more easily. In an hour or so, drink 2 more cups of water. Some people will take about 4 asprins. That can help "Fool the test". Pop another Multi vitimin. Piss often and monitor the color. You only need it to be a little bit yellow. Some people take so many vitimins that it almost looks green. Keep periodicly drinking water about 3 or 4 cups an hour and keep pissing. The pissing "rinses" you out. Maybe take 1 more vitimin if your piss is getting "clear". Don't overdo the vitimins or the water. You don't need to.

Lots of people pass that way and if you buy one of those 40 dollar drinks, they're basically doing it the same way. Their instructions state to drink the drink and then fill the bottle up with water, drink it, and wait an hour and do it again. The drinks do include Creatine which can help.

Practice. Take some money and go the a Rite Aide or drugstore and buy a drug test for about 10 or 12 bucks. Follow the instructions and see where you are on it. If you dry out for a week there's a good chance that you can pass but if you take your own test and you don't pass, you must substute. That means getting a friends piss that's "clean".

Some people wash out condoms and stick them in their underware. The most critical thing when substuting is "Temperature". It must be between something like 92 degrees and 100 degrees. Women can insert condoms in thier virgina which keeps the temperature perfect but in the summer, just putting a container in your underware usually keeps the temperature "good".
You need 2 ounces of urine and those small "sample" shampoo bottles are recomemded. You need to rince them out thoroughly!

Do a little practicing.
Good Luck!

[brokenstrings]

I hope like hell this guy isn’t applying to drive a big rig or anything else that could hurt someone. On the other hand, if you want to get tangled up in an industrial machine while you’re stoned, be my guest. I hope you fail jackass. Oh well, back to retirement.

[bassist_25]

I just find it both very cool and very funny at the same time that we are discussing this on Rockpage. Andy's right though about the myth of drinking water all week. THC is fat-soluble, and won't just leave by flushing the system.

[bassist4life2004]

Doing drugs in the first place is stupid. If i were running this country, or even state, drug tests would be manditory for everything, child support, welfare, cash assistance, and food stamps. You would have to be drug tested to live in low income housing, the whole nine yards. It shouldn't just be at job interviews. EVERYONE who is trying to get money from the state in that aspect should be forced into random monthly drug testing. I hate the fact that i am knowingly buying drugs for low-lifes who cant work for a living and provide for themselves. Drugs are pointless, do something positive with your life, get a job without having to "cheat on the drug test"...its just sad.

[bassist_25]

I hope like hell this guy isn’t applying to drive a big rig or anything else that could hurt someone. On the other hand, if you want to get tangled up in an industrial machine while you’re stoned, be my guest. I hope you fail jackass. Oh well, back to retirement.

On the other hand, this person could be applying for a position at Wal-Mart, who is known for drug-testing people and even during the interview process, makes its applicants take a tasty little psychometric known as the O'Ryan Test, in order to make sure everyone's a good little conformist. Prescription drugs and other medication can also be determined through drug tests, but [sarcasm on] luckily no company has ever discriminated against people due to health or age. [sarcasm off]

Then again, I've been accused once or twice in my life of being a libertarian. *shrugs*

[bassist_25]

Doing drugs in the first place is stupid. If i were running this country, or even state, drug tests would be manditory for everything, child support, welfare, cash assistance, and food stamps. You would have to be drug tested to live in low income housing, the whole nine yards. It shouldn't just be at job interviews. EVERYONE who is trying to get money from the state in that aspect should be forced into random monthly drug testing. I hate the fact that i am knowingly buying drugs for low-lifes who cant work for a living and provide for themselves. Drugs are pointless, do something positive with your life, get a job without having to "cheat on the drug test"...its just sad.

On the other hand, if I am a tax-paying citizen and an asset to society, I feel that it is my right to do with my body as I see fit, whether that's cut my hair a certain way, get a tattoo, or in this case, alter my consciousness. My body and mind belongs to me, with a capital M and a capital E, not my government nor my insurance company. If someone is weak and chooses to destroy themselves with heroin, then let them die. If someone else wants to come home from a long day at work and spin a joint to unwind, then I say let them. I don't condemn nor condone recreational drug use. I DO condone and encourage thinking for one's self.

[bassist4life2004]

Doing drugs in the first place is stupid. If i were running this country, or even state, drug tests would be manditory for everything, child support, welfare, cash assistance, and food stamps. You would have to be drug tested to live in low income housing, the whole nine yards. It shouldn't just be at job interviews. EVERYONE who is trying to get money from the state in that aspect should be forced into random monthly drug testing. I hate the fact that i am knowingly buying drugs for low-lifes who cant work for a living and provide for themselves. Drugs are pointless, do something positive with your life, get a job without having to "cheat on the drug test"...its just sad.

On the other hand, if I am a tax-paying citizen and an asset to society, I feel that it is my right to do with my body as I see fit, whether that's cut my hair a certain way, get a tattoo, or in this case, alter my consciousness. My body and mind belongs to me, with a capital M and a capital E, not my government nor my insurance company. If someone is weak and chooses to destroy themselves with heroin, then let them die. If someone else wants to come home from a long day at work and spin a joint to unwind, then I say let them. I don't condemn nor condone recreational drug use. I DO condone and encourage thinking for one's self.

My point was, when people are mooching off the government and using all that money for drugs, thats where the line should be drawn. I agree, that a persons body should belong to no one but them, but when taxes go up because there isnt enough money for welfare, and i gotta take more out of my paycheck to feed some half-jack drug dealer, thats bullshit, and something that should be corrected in the system. It gets taken advantage of too much these days.

[RamRod 1]

I hope like hell this guy isn’t applying to drive a big rig or anything else that could hurt someone. On the other hand, if you want to get tangled up in an industrial machine while you’re stoned, be my guest. I hope you fail jackass. Oh well, back to retirement.

I don't think you get it!

Urine test are specifically designed to test for off duty use. They test for metabolites not intoxicants. That means if you smoke pot and get high, the intoxicant that made you high is gone in about 6 hours but the metabolites remain for as long as a month.
Get Real. If you drive a "big rig" and smoke a joint on Friday night and then have an accident 2 weeks later, do you really think that that joint caused the accident?

The urine Test is not a fair test nor is it an accurate test
If you have a drink on Friday night and have an accident 2 weeks later, do you think that that drink 2 weeks ago caused that accident?

And it gets worse! Because the urine test does not test for for drug intoxicants but tests for metabolites which don't show up for about 6 hours, if your clean and you're on you way to a drug test, you can smoke a whole joint, be skying, and pass the test with flying colors. Doesn't seem right does it.

I have a CDL license and drive professionally. I totally believe in driving unintoxicated.

I know that the Congress had good intentions when they passed the drug testing laws, but they missed their mark.

[Plastered Bastards]

Pass on the job. Drug testing is ridiculous,what you do on your own time is your business and not the employers.
Unless your coming to work fucked up and then your just stupid.
But that's my 2 cents.
Cheers!!!!

[bassist_25]

My point was, when people are mooching off the government and using all that money for drugs, thats where the line should be drawn. I agree, that a persons body should belong to no one but them, but when taxes go up because there isnt enough money for welfare, and i gotta take more out of my paycheck to feed some half-jack drug dealer, thats bullshit, and something that should be corrected in the system. It gets taken advantage of too much these days.

Oh agree with you 100%. I was stating that without any government assistance, then I feel that people should be free agents, so to speak.

[bassist4life2004]

i dont give a rats ass what people do with themselves, shit, shoot 5 gallons of heroine a day if it makes you happy. But when it directly effects my safety, or my wallet, thats when it pisses me off. I dont want to die because the guy on the forklift at giant eagle came wheeling out of the warehouse at 30 miles per hour due to a massive heroine binge.

[metalchurch]

I would never drink piss, not even my own. I was just messin around. It would have been funny if he had tried that. I know that THC stays in your fat cells, and has a half life of 15 - 28 days, so it all depends on the individual.
Beans have a half life of 72 hours give or take.
Another thing to try is to drink 8 shots of Jim Beam before the test because the alcohol will kill the THC.
Better than piss.

[RamRod 1]

I dont want to die because the guy on the forklift at giant eagle came wheeling out of the warehouse at 30 miles per hour due to a massive heroine binge.

I agree. Just make the test work for "On Duty" use just like the "Alcohol Test" and you and I are on the same team.

[Mapex Drummer]

I look at the whole issue this way. (And by no means am I condoning anyone and what they do on thier own time.) Either you do drug and worry about losing your job all the time or stay clean and and do the best job you can. Belive me if you get hurt on the job the first thing they do is test you. And if you test positive you will not be able to get any Workmans Comp. and your regular insuance won't cover you either.
I have seen this happen first hand. So my perspective is "it ain't worth it".

Well that's my 2 cents

Steve

[BDR]

Drugs are bad, m'kay ...

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