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YankeeRose wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote: We really have a national militia of 10's of millions of gun owners, and it just drives liberals nuts.
WRONG. What drives Democrats nuts are generalizations like the above. :evil:
Rose, he said it drives liberals nuts, not Democrats.

Are you sure you're not a closet conservative?

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Anyone who says there are no Republican Neocon Fascists for gun control is prepetuating a lie. To blindly believe and espouse everything they are telling us is very foolhardy.
The truth is out there, but that would mean not being brainwashed and having a mind of your own.
I'm glad the United Nations is getting involved, not that the Neocon Fascists will give a flying flip what they recommend. History speaks for itself. Iran is next on the invasion agenda. The TRUTH is Iran has complied and if they do have the materials for them, they do not seek Nuclear weapons. They have not been seeking to make them. However, to admit that would be to give up the excuse for invading them, and would go against the agenda for the "New World Order". Oil prices which are tied directly to the Oil Bourse are the only reasons why Iran is next on "the list" for invasion. Again, the TRUTH is readily available for all those who have but to seek it out.
The 09-11 Commission was a totally controlled FARCE, designed to placate us in place of a criminal investigation. One of the things I found very telling is that many of the "official" eyewitnesses for the Pentagon attack, have ties to either the Media or the current Administration. Many other Military Members who were there, inside and outside of the Pentagon, but not on the list of "official" witnesses we were allowed to hear from, have a totally different version of the TRUTH about what actually hit the Pentagon. The same with Flight 93...it was shot down, that concensus is widely known around here. Debris from the plane was spread over several miles - that wouldn't have happened unless it was shot down. The actual crash site of the plane was miles away and quickly cordoned off. The facts are readily available for all those who have but to seek them out.
The comment about responsibility for the rain is comical, childish, and totally ineffectual. It will not change the facts. Although I admit it is a horrible, terrifying, unthinkable, totally unconscionable truth, it is the TRUTH none the less.




Yes, it would be nice if there was another major Political Party, but the fact is there are really only 2 that count. That is, if we don't allow the Neocons to rig another Election.
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Yep, as a twice degreed engineer, it makes perfect sense to me that a country with one of the largest oil reserves in the world would pass up their own cheap oil in favor of a relatively expensive and potentially deadly nuclear energy program.

Yeah...sure...Iran is legitimate...sure they are... :roll:

Don't worry. Once its appparent that the U.nited N.othings won't do anything about Iran...and they won't...Israel will step in and take care of the situation with a few F-16 sorties.
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I know who took those school lunches..........
It was that damn sascwatch! :roll:

Who shot these planes down anyway? Must have been that damn sascwatch too! :wink:
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YankeeRose wrote:Anyone who says there are no Republican Neocon Fascists for gun control is prepetuating a lie. To blindly believe and espouse everything they are telling us is very foolhardy.
The truth is out there, but that would mean not being brainwashed and having a mind of your own.
I'm glad the United Nations is getting involved, not that the Neocon Fascists will give a flying flip what they recommend. History speaks for itself. Iran is next on the invasion agenda. The TRUTH is Iran has complied and if they do have the materials for them, they do not seek Nuclear weapons. They have not been seeking to make them. However, to admit that would be to give up the excuse for invading them, and would go against the agenda for the "New World Order". Oil prices which are tied directly to the Oil Bourse are the only reasons why Iran is next on "the list" for invasion. Again, the TRUTH is readily available for all those who have but to seek it out.
The 09-11 Commission was a totally controlled FARCE, designed to placate us in place of a criminal investigation. One of the things I found very telling is that many of the "official" eyewitnesses for the Pentagon attack, have ties to either the Media or the current Administration. Many other Military Members who were there, inside and outside of the Pentagon, but not on the list of "official" witnesses we were allowed to hear from, have a totally different version of the TRUTH about what actually hit the Pentagon. The same with Flight 93...it was shot down, that concensus is widely known around here. Debris from the plane was spread over several miles - that wouldn't have happened unless it was shot down. The actual crash site of the plane was miles away and quickly cordoned off. The facts are readily available for all those who have but to seek them out.
The comment about responsibility for the rain is comical, childish, and totally ineffectual. It will not change the facts. Although I admit it is a horrible, terrifying, unthinkable, totally unconscionable truth, it is the TRUTH none the less.




Yes, it would be nice if there was another major Political Party, but the fact is there are really only 2 that count. That is, if we don't allow the Neocons to rig another Election.

I see you are a card-carrying far left-wing conspiracy-theory kook. Excuse me while I take Bill O'Reilly's advice and run the other way as fast as I can.
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YR, you are right about the 9-11 commission being a farce. The whole purpose was to try to blame everyting on W and do everything to hide the criminality of the Clinton admin.

Jamie Gorelic, second in command to Janet (lets burn some Christians) Reno at the Attourny General office of the Clinton Communist administration was a comissioner, instead of giving testimony.

Her job for Clinton was to create and inforce the WALL between various intelligence agencies. The CIA was not allowed to share infor with the FBI and NSA and others.

Why, to protect the Clinton sale of technology to the Communist Chinese for campaign money. The wall kept the FBI from finding out Clinton was committing Treason for money. Former Sect. of Commerce Ron Brown was eliminated cause he said he was going to talk about this.

Well this same wall kept information like the Able Danger project which discovered Mottamed Atta a full 2 years before 9-11, from being shared with the FBI or NSA.

The Army Col. who was in charge of Able Danger testified to the 9-11 commission board and yet in their final report, absolutely no mention of the Able Danger report was ever recorded. Some board members denied there even was Able Danger testimony, some said there was, but they did not know why it was not mentioned in the 9-11 report.

That was why Jamie Gorelic was one of the 9-11 commissioners, to quash the Able Danger report and any other crimes commetted by the biggest traitor to this country, Slick Willie Clinton.

All the testimony about how many times Clinton turned down opportunities to capture Bin Ladin was also quashed from the final 9-11 report.
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I think im gonna go take a Democrap........to the OGS/HOC show on the 17th @ Aldo's.

I had a potato gun once....
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That's "ONE GUN" Spellbound, that I've been dying to get my hands on.
Did you build it yer self ? 8) I always wanted a potato gun ! I'm sure someone would say that a potato gun is bad also cause there are starving people who could eat those potatoes ,so why waste em'. l.o.l. :lol:
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undercoverjoe wrote:YR, you are right about the 9-11 commission being a farce. The whole purpose was to try to blame everyting on W and do everything to hide the criminality of the Clinton admin.

Jamie Gorelic, second in command to Janet (lets burn some Christians) Reno at the Attourny General office of the Clinton Communist administration was a comissioner, instead of giving testimony.

Her job for Clinton was to create and inforce the WALL between various intelligence agencies. The CIA was not allowed to share infor with the FBI and NSA and others.

Why, to protect the Clinton sale of technology to the Communist Chinese for campaign money. The wall kept the FBI from finding out Clinton was committing Treason for money. Former Sect. of Commerce Ron Brown was eliminated cause he said he was going to talk about this.

Well this same wall kept information like the Able Danger project which discovered Mottamed Atta a full 2 years before 9-11, from being shared with the FBI or NSA.

The Army Col. who was in charge of Able Danger testified to the 9-11 commission board and yet in their final report, absolutely no mention of the Able Danger report was ever recorded. Some board members denied there even was Able Danger testimony, some said there was, but they did not know why it was not mentioned in the 9-11 report.

That was why Jamie Gorelic was one of the 9-11 commissioners, to quash the Able Danger report and any other crimes commetted by the biggest traitor to this country, Slick Willie Clinton.

All the testimony about how many times Clinton turned down opportunities to capture Bin Ladin was also quashed from the final 9-11 report.




:roll: You've got to be kidding me! You say I'm "out there"? HA! RATIONALLY read the above. We all know who the Commander in Chief was on 09-11-2001. It sure as hell wasn't Clinton. The negligence of the current Administration and some sort of Criminal Investigation should have been the focus of the Commission, not trying to pin it on someone who it turned out was acting under advisement from Cheney, Rummie and other members of the "Society" all along and basically doing their bidding. (The letters sent to Clinton and info on their site speak for themselves. I won't put the Web Site on here again, but if you saw the link and clicked on it a few months ago, you know what Society I'm speaking of.)
For quite some time before 09-11-2001, numerous people had called our various intelligence agencies - not just one - and reported "suspicious activity" all around the country. These agencies ignored those reports as they were most likely ordered to. To do otherwise would have only interfered with the Administration's plans. A few examples of what was reported:
how Blue Prints for various landmarks around the country were being requested and there were the men wanting to learn how to fly planes, but not land them. All of that may have been reported only a few times and then that information, those FACTS squelched or a different spin put on all of the various irregularities (That's putting it mildly!) in the months leading up to 09-11, but I haven't forgotten.




A high ranking member of the current Administration was with members of Bin Laden's family in a hotel on 09-11 and in the days afterward. Our Government actually helped them get safe passage out of the country. Now, isn't that special?




Today I read the "17 Articles of Impeachment", which is the people's right to seek. The 17 Articles of Impeachment honestly, intelligently and clearly outline the High Crimes and Misdemeanors of Dubya, Dickie, Rummie and Ashcroft. I'd say the entire Administration, for that matter. I sincerely hope it's only a short amount of time before it's a fact and the next invasion on the Society's agenda is averted.




A Military jet shot down Flight 93. It's no joke. Here's something else that I and many others found very odd: cell phones supposedly used on a plane. So touching and tragic to me and others at first, but then we recalled being told a reason why they are not allowed to be used on planes. All of this is NOT a Democrat or Liberal, Republican or Conservative Partisan issue, it's an American one. Believe me, there are plenty of Republicans/Conservatives who know and realize all of this too and simply want the facts and truth to be known.




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YankeeRose wrote:Complacent people who don't Vote and especially who don't CARE what the Neocon Fascist Society does, are the Neocon Fascist Society's favorite Americans.
The fascists are coming for you Rose...heh, heh, heh... :twisted:
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YR, you did not seem to make any statement about the Able Danger project where a team from the department found 4 of the 9-11 terrorists a full 2 years before 9-11.

Lets see, that was during the communist administration. Why did the FBI not do anything about this information.

Why did the 9-11 commission not report this?????

Give me an answer on these REAL issues.

I can document everyone of the above facts unlike your delusional ramblings you get from psycho left wing sites.
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I'm not going to lose any sleep over Iran getting invaded, or North Korea for that matter. I'd still like to know the whole purpose of invading Iraq though.

P.s. We were off this weekend, so I didn't get a chance to talk to old sKool. How do you like my signature this week? :D
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bassist_25 wrote:I'm not going to lose any sleep over Iran getting invaded, or North Korea for that matter. I'd still like to know the whole purpose of invading Iraq though.
To have Saddam the fuck out and stabilize things right in the center of the Middle East. These things don't happen overnight either, everyone always wants the quick answer. Well, it's gonna take time and it's getting better.


Why doesn't this thread end already?
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RobTheDrummer wrote:
bassist_25 wrote:I'm not going to lose any sleep over Iran getting invaded, or North Korea for that matter. I'd still like to know the whole purpose of invading Iraq though.
To have Saddam the fuck out and stabilize things right in the center of the Middle East. These things don't happen overnight either, everyone always wants the quick answer. Well, it's gonna take time and it's getting better.


Why doesn't this thread end already?
Iraq... Oil.... Persian Gulf Access! I'm sure if N. Korea had these to offer we would be there. Wake up it's all about the oil. Plenty of hand held weapons in Iraq and that isn't stopping anything. No NS I don't think guns are evil. It is the holder of the gun, or missle, or jet, or tank etc...
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It's not about Oil. Gimme some proof about that.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:It's not about Oil. Gimme some proof about that.
The 1st Gulf War was over Kuwait. If Saddam had taken over this country he would of had the ability to block oil into the Persian Gulf. George W. knows that since his daddy was prez. duing that war. Control the Gulf and control the oil.

Never found and WMD or links to Bin Laden.

Dude it's about the oil......
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Here is a map you figure it out.

http://worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm
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It's a strongpoint in the Middle East. That's Iraq's oil, not ours. It's just ignorant to assume it's about oil because you have no understanding of whats goin on over there.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:It's a strongpoint in the Middle East. That's Iraq's oil, not ours. It's just ignorant to assume it's about oil because you have no understanding of whats goin on over there.
Yes that is Iraq's oil in the Iron Palm of the US Government. Saddam is gone. We are still there. Why.....?
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We're cleanin house and getting thier government in place. Takes time.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:We're cleanin house and getting thier government in place. Takes time.
Yes it takes time. I am sure we will be there until a government willing to play ball with the U.S is in place. We have put in many a puppet government, in countries all over the globe, where it will do us the most good.

Too bad NS isn't around to see here post go to 5 pages!
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You see, I have my reasons to think what I do, lets not get off track. I just want some hard evidence instead of assumptions about oil. Gimme some hard proof and maybe then I will believe.
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Try out this site by Alex Jones:, it's pretty eyeopening.

http://www.infowars.com/
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Yup, to bad NS couldn't see her thread go 3 pages about guns and the other 2 about oil and the war, which in case anyone forgets, guns, was the point of this thread in the first place not the war or oil. This thread has been highjacked ! Time to let this one die people, sheeesh! :roll:
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I am curious on this one. How many people fighting about politics and war on this thread have relatives/friends fighting in the Middle East right now? How does this play a role in your thought process about your arguments? I'm not saying this to be a dick or something, I'm just curious.
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