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SpellboundByMetal wrote:Isnt Halestorm the band with the chick singer? arent they having people write songs for them?????
Keith, don't start.

They are meeting with producers in LA and getting things in order for their major-label debut. Lzzy Hale is an unbelievable songwriter, and more than likely doesn't need any help writing material. Ask Jim Price for some copies of older Halestorm music. It's not "metal", so you'll probably hate it and brand it as "emo", but the songwriting is strong as hell and can stand with anyone.
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ToonaRockGuy wrote:
SpellboundByMetal wrote:Isnt Halestorm the band with the chick singer? arent they having people write songs for them?????
Keith, don't start.

They are meeting with producers in LA and getting things in order for their major-label debut. Lzzy Hale is an unbelievable songwriter, and more than likely doesn't need any help writing material. Ask Jim Price for some copies of older Halestorm music. It's not "metal", so you'll probably hate it and brand it as "emo", but the songwriting is strong as hell and can stand with anyone.
Not to mention, Lzzy is one HELLUVA performer, probably one of the best and most mesmerizing fronts I've ever seen, either in a bar or in an arena. Those pipes of hers just don't quit and she plays different instruments on stage, including guitar and keys.

Songwriting is definitely one of her major strengths. I have a few of her early demos and they absolutely kill.

Also, let's not forget they were good enough to get the attention of (and a contract from) Atlantic Records.

Finally, that "chick" turns up on a Wikipedia search.

Click here for "Lzzy Hale" on Wikipedia

I think she's doing OK.

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are there any bands on rockpage at the moment that are on the verge of getting sighned original bands ?
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BadDazeRob wrote:Didn't feel like reading through the entire thread to check but has anyone mentioned Christina Aguilera? ---------- Pittsburgh.

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moxham123 wrote:Christina Aguilera was raised in Rochester, PA outside of Pittsburgh from the time she was 7 years old.
Damn, what a voice. Definitely one of my favorites.

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We just saw Christina last night at the Mellon Arena...HOLY ^#&# what a voice...her performance and stage show were one of the best I have seen.

Another PA chick...I think Pink is from Philly...
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Wasn't Norman Nardini (not sure of the spelling) and also the Clarks from Pittsburgh ?
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that crappy band Live is from York
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HarleyRo1 wrote:We just saw Christina last night at the Mellon Arena...HOLY ^# what a voice...her performance and stage show were one of the best I have seen.
I've always been a big fan of her voice but if you want to watch a feel good story about "making it," watch the E! Network "True Hollywood Story" on Christina. The best part is the big middle finger she was able to flip to all the a$$holes at her high school who left the dance floor at her senior prom en masse when the DJ began to play, "Genie In A Bottle."

This group "ƒü©k you" was orchestrated just a few months before the song hit nationally (and also just a few months before her album dropped and went straight to #1 on Billboard).

Oh yeah, she collected a Grammy that year, as well. I love the fact that she was able to put that bull$hit back in her classmates' faces without saying a word.

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She filled the Mellon Arena...and I have to wonder how many of those a$$holes that walked off the floor at her prom were part of her hometown crowd in Pittsburgh the other night...life can certainly be ironic...
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ToonaRockGuy wrote:
SpellboundByMetal wrote:Isnt Halestorm the band with the chick singer? arent they having people write songs for them?????
Keith, don't start.

They are meeting with producers in LA and getting things in order for their major-label debut. Lzzy Hale is an unbelievable songwriter, and more than likely doesn't need any help writing material. Ask Jim Price for some copies of older Halestorm music. It's not "metal", so you'll probably hate it and brand it as "emo", but the songwriting is strong as hell and can stand with anyone.
I could have SWORN i read that they had people writing songs for them!!!!!
Im not trying to "start" anything. im allready not gonna like them cause they have a chick singer, but seriously ...where the hell did i read that? its good they 'made it' and all.
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I apoligize if anyone already posted these artists of groups but The Bloodhound Gang is from King of Prussia, Joe Pass a wonderful jazz guitarist was from the Johnstown area, I believe I heard at one point that Train is from Erie, and though not a musician himself alot of Andy Warhol's artwork was related to the music scene. Namely the famous banana on the cover of The Velvet Underground's album.
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from JP's post on this site!
First, an update on Halestorm…The band is currently in Los Angeles writing and doing pre-production for their upcoming full length Atlantic Records debut album. Besides meeting with producers to determine who will give the album their sound and final touches, the band is also in Los Angeles to write with the most talented songwriters in the business. Currently some of the people collaborating with Halestorm are the DeLeo brothers of Stone Temple Pilots fame, Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue, Jon 5 of Rob Zombie, Gilby Clarke of Guns N’Roses, Ryan Dusick of Maroon 5 and others. Halestorm will be playing at the famed Whisky-A-Go-Go in Los Angeles on May 6 with Program The Dead.

doesnt that say that people are writing songs for them?!
Read next time before you say im trying to start shit please :lol: I try to read everything on this site. maybe you should too, KEVIN!!! haha. I wouldnt say that just to say it. anyway, thanks!
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No link, :) but I believe the word "collaborate" means to work closely with someone or others - possibly even on tweaking Halestorm's own material/stage show, imagine that. :shock: Even if they were using others' material, IMO it doesn't matter. Many Musicians would give their fangs - oops, eye teeth :D to be where Halestorm is at in their Musical career.
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http://www.rockpage.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=13874

Theres the link. yeah, as i said its good they made it. BUT I personally wouldnt be told "oh we have people write songs for or HELP write songs with you. id be dumb and turn it down on principle. they signed them for something. why not let them make their own music?!
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SpellboundByMetal wrote:Theres the link. yeah, as i said its good they made it. BUT I personally wouldnt be told "oh we have people write songs for or HELP write songs with you. id be dumb and turn it down on principle. they signed them for something. why not let them make their own music?!



Thanks, but I meant I wasn't providing a link for the meaning of the word. For one thing, I don't intend to look it up. :)
Any way, back to Halestorm. There's nothing that says they aren't making "their own Music". Basically, it states "the Band" is busy with "writing and pre-production" for their album, so on and so forth. If you were some day offered a recording contract, yet refused to work with and/or the help of paid professionals who were only trying to help you do your very best, I would hope that you and your principles would be content with that decision. :wink:
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Helping and writing songs with, are 2 different things. and NO , i wouldnt let 'pros' write my songs for me. that completely ruins creating ones musical visions. which is the point of having an original band. "this is what we have to offer". if a label wants a band to change, why sign the band in the first place?
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You'd be surprised how often you're not even hearing the actual band members on the albums that you're listening to. It's been standard practice for years to use "ghost" musicians, who go uncredited, because the actual band members don't even have the musical chops to really play the material that they wrote, which is kind of ironic. Much of Kiss's midcareer stuff has other musicians on it, because Ace and Peter were too coked up to even show up at the studio. Hell, you may even know some of these ghost musicians.

It does seem kind of odd to sign a band and then have them work with outside songwriters. As a music listener though, if I like an artist's song, I'll buy the album. It really doesn't matter to me who actually wrote it. I'm very curious about how many signed bands would actually be good if it weren't for working with a quality producer. Few artists are objective enough to produce themselves. Just some food for thought.
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AllHolLowsEVe wrote:I apoligize if anyone already posted these artists of groups but The Bloodhound Gang is from King of Prussia, Joe Pass a wonderful jazz guitarist was from the Johnstown area, I believe I heard at one point that Train is from Erie, and though not a musician himself alot of Andy Warhol's artwork was related to the music scene. Namely the famous banana on the cover of The Velvet Underground's album.
The Pennsylvania connection with the band, "Train, is that Pat Monahan, the lead singer, is from the Erie area and was born in Waterford, PA. The band was formed in San Francisco and the other members are from other places. Pat Monahan is releasing his first solo album soon.
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While not exactly what the thread is asking for, here are some noteworthy mentions of local people that have done alright for themselves in the music industry;

Chris Pellani drummer from Nanty Glo, living on the west coast has three solo cd’s to his credit and has toured with the likes of Air Supply.

Dr. Steven Prosser Esq. from Altoona, currently the Chair of Ear Training at Berklee College of Music in Boston. Steve has had such students as Paula Cole. Steve also has his PhD and Law Degree.

Joe Howard, aka Joe Skyward, bassist from Altoona has toured and recorded with the Posies and other national acts. He also had the distinction of playing with Alan White of YES

Robbi Johns, guitarist from Altoona along with studying under Christopher Parkening, Robbi is currently the Vice President of Product Development for Gibson Guitar in Bozeman Montana

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The Christian rock parody band, ApologetiX, is from the Pittsburgh area. They are like Weird Al Yankovic in that they take current rock and pop songs and do their own parodies of them with Christian and positive themes and lyrics.

They have made 18 albums since 1993 and won numerous awards.

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SpellboundByMetal wrote:
Helping and writing songs with, are 2 different things. and NO , i wouldnt let 'pros' write my songs for me. that completely ruins creating ones musical visions. which is the point of having an original band. "this is what we have to offer". if a label wants a band to change, why sign the band in the first place?
First, collaborations on songs are fairly commonplace in the music industry, and it doesn't mean that "pros" are "writing" songs for you. The collaboration might not even be on song or lyric writing itself, but on production issues and other aspects of the song creation process, all with the purpose of bringing the band or writer's true vision to fruition. As this is Halestorm's first experience on the major label level, these collaborators are probably helping show the band the ropes regarding what it takes to put songs and an album out there at this level.

Lzzy Hale actually honed her own songwriting skills by working with producer David Ivory; a collaboration that helped pave the way for Halestorm's eventual signing with Atlantic. David Ivory's collaboration helped teach Lzzy to write more efficiently and focus her own song ideas and lyrics.

Lzzy and Halestorm achieved the major label level on the strength of their own song material and presentation. While they may be collaborating and consulting with established songwriters, it's with the idea of developing and improving upon their own ideas and creations so they can put their best effort forth on that eventual studio album. The songs likely don't make the album without Halestorm's final approval.

With the current major music industry climate, that eventual album will determine whether Halestorm's stay with Atlantic is a long or short one. If collaborating with other songwriters helps give them the best chance of success with the album, so be it. We'll see how deep the collaborative efforts are when the final album comes out, but I predict that the songs will mostly - if not totally - be Halestorm's own ideas.
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Why would they throw away the songs that the "pros" helped them write?!
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Jim Price wrote:
First, collaborations on songs are fairly commonplace in the music industry,
and it doesn't mean that "pros" are "writing" songs for you. The collaboration
might not even be on song or lyric writing itself, but on production issues and
other aspects of the song creation process, all with the purpose of bringing
the band or writer's true vision to fruition.
Absolutely. For anyone who writes tunes, you prolly know that, quite often
what you end up with is WAY too long. The "razor" is one of the best ways
to fix a song and having a producer there to help with it can be imperative.

You/we/anyone can tend to get too close to something and let your "vision"
screw up what you're actually trying to achieve.

One of the best part of when we write is when our singer brings in one of
his tunes and we start hacking away at it (I've gotten very good at this since
I fully acknowledge that I write long and most of the time that part I think is
SO good and NEEDS to be there 4x would prolly be more effectual being
there once....if at all. Self editing can be an ego crusher.

I read a lot from producers and engineers, plus knowing some people who
do these and whose opinions I respect. The "razor" is the one thing that
comes up again and again.

That being said, having a major label involved often means they're looking
more at the bottom line fiscally on their investment, so it can be a factor in
making a band/performer more bland than anyone has a right to be.

Depends on the situation. Goin' indy is still the best option in my opinion
but it's not my decision to be faced with I'm not goin' to judge anyone.

It's also EXTREMELY hard (Had this discussion this morning with a friend
who is producing someone's new material) to judge what you're working
on at the time. You work REALLY HARD to make everything perfect but,
often, perfect can kill the feel of something. Hence the stuff on most radio
sounding like it came from a $5 Casio keyboard from 1983.

People work like crazy to succeed at this business and if someone has a
shot they feel is worthwhile it's hard (And to a large extent, dishonest and
self-righteous) to knock them.
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red wrote:Etown Concrete
I don't think they're from PA.
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