A ?? For The Political Enthusiasts

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

If I say Mt.St. Helen's is a volcano that is an undeniable truth. There is only one truth. There are not two or more truths are there ?

If I say GW Bush was President that is undeniable truth. Can't be disputed. There are not two or more truths are there ?

If I said Ron Paul contributed to a white supremacist group, that is an undeniable truth. It can only be one truth. There are not two or more truths.

These ARE NOT opinions, these are facts no matter who reports it, it remains true and factual.

If one man says up is down and the other says down is down, and you research to see who is right, you will find that there is only one true fact. (And don't be funny and tell me about quantum physics where up can be down, you know what I mean).

It is NOT what we make it out to be. It is what it is...true. If you say a red house is a green house does that make it a green house. No because there is only one truth.

You CANNOT make truth what you want. You can USE it the way you want, but you can't change it into something it isn't.

So in politics there are truths and there are facts and they can't be changed.

While there might be one truth in a given situation, your personal bias on the subject might like or not like the fact. But the fact doesn't change.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

undercoverjoe wrote:
ToonaRockGuy wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Argument over! Bill declares that there IS ONLY ONE TRUTH!

We can all turn our computers off and go on with our lives. I am sure the government will take that truth and do what is best for all.
And this is why I don't get into these discussions. Thanks, Joe, for completely disregarding my request for no personal attacks on anyone in this thread. I can't even ask a simple question without you going after someone. Christ.

I would honestly like to thank everyone who did take the time to give good honest answers.

I'm going to listen to music now. Fuck politics.

When the resident authoritarian statist speaks, what more is there to be said on the subject? Not an attack, just pointing out TRUTH!

He said you can MAKE truth what you want. I disputed that. You CANNOT make truth what you want. You can USE it the way you want, but you can't change it into something it isn't.

Joe, I don't know where you are coming from ? A fact is a fact. Something that is true is not anything else but true. True is not false. Why did you become so asinine in a thread where a legitimate question was asked ?

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

Hawk wrote:If I said Ron Paul contributed to a white supremacist group, that is an undeniable truth. It can only be one truth. There are not two or more truths.

These ARE NOT opinions, these are facts no matter who reports it, it remains true and factual.

He did? How much did he contribute and whom did he contribute it to?

Who reported it as a fact? Does it depend on your definition of contribution?

See Kev, its hard to tell what's true anymore!

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

lonewolf wrote:
Hawk wrote:If I said Ron Paul contributed to a white supremacist group, that is an undeniable truth. It can only be one truth. There are not two or more truths.

These ARE NOT opinions, these are facts no matter who reports it, it remains true and factual.
He did? How much did he contribute and whom did he contribute it to?

Who reported it as a fact? Does it depend on your definition of contribution?

See Kev, its hard to tell what's true anymore!

How dare you question the resident authoritarian statist?!?! Bill posts it, it has to be THE TRUTH!!!!!! Bill has the government on his side, and they always do what is best for all. He said that. That's all you need. How could you question someone with that deep of a conviction?

Every-time you read my signature quote, think of Bill. Goethe was writing about him it seems.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

undercoverjoe wrote:
lonewolf wrote:
Hawk wrote:If I said Ron Paul contributed to a white supremacist group, that is an undeniable truth. It can only be one truth. There are not two or more truths.

These ARE NOT opinions, these are facts no matter who reports it, it remains true and factual.
He did? How much did he contribute and whom did he contribute it to?

Who reported it as a fact? Does it depend on your definition of contribution?

See Kev, its hard to tell what's true anymore!
How dare you question the resident authoritarian statist?!?! Bill posts it, it has to be THE TRUTH!!!!!! Bill has the government on his side, and they always do what is best for all. He said that. That's all you need. How could you question someone with that deep of a conviction?

Every-time you read my signature quote, think of Bill. Goethe was writing about him it seems.

I made a mistake. Don Black (from the Stormfront White Supremacist web site) contributed to Ron Paul. Ron Paul accepted the money.

I can admit when I make a mistake. However you both prove my point. There is ONLY ONE truth. Your research found the one truth. Good job ! And thanks for making my point.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

Racists, Marxists, socialists, tax cheats and lawyers contributed to Obama. He accepted it.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Wednesday Sep 14, 2011

undercoverjoe wrote:Racists, Marxists, socialists, tax cheats and lawyers contributed to Obama. He accepted it.

He puts most of those types in Cabinet positions in his White House.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Thursday Sep 15, 2011

Hawk wrote:If I say Mt.St. Helen's is a volcano that is an undeniable truth. There is only one truth. There are not two or more truths are there ?

If I say GW Bush was President that is undeniable truth. Can't be disputed. There are not two or more truths are there ?

If I said Ron Paul contributed to a white supremacist group, that is an undeniable truth. It can only be one truth. There are not two or more truths.

These ARE NOT opinions, these are facts no matter who reports it, it remains true and factual.

If one man says up is down and the other says down is down, and you research to see who is right, you will find that there is only one true fact. (And don't be funny and tell me about quantum physics where up can be down, you know what I mean).

It is NOT what we make it out to be. It is what it is...true. If you say a red house is a green house does that make it a green house. No because there is only one truth.

You CANNOT make truth what you want. You can USE it the way you want, but you can't change it into something it isn't.

So in politics there are truths and there are facts and they can't be changed.

While there might be one truth in a given situation, your personal bias on the subject might like or not like the fact. But the fact doesn't change.

I think you're simplifying things way too much, Bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialists

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenomenology_(philosophy)