Say good-bye to Fiore Pontiac, Jeep, Chrysler ...

[fullthrottle666]

Your argument assumes a great demand for the American product that isn't there.

I'm not sure how it assumes the level of demand. As long as there IS a demand, however small or large, having that demand met by fewer dealerships means less competition and higher prices, equalling more profit for the remaining dealerships PLUS a bigger piece of the overall pie.
My stance on unions: Once upon a time, they literally kept the robber barons from enslaving and even killing the American worker... now, they overprice themselves out of a job, they're dens of corruption and greedy self-interest. I'm the biggest anti-corporate on this forum, I think, but the UAW is as complicit in the failures of the auto industry as the boardroom. Foreign automakers who make cars in the US are much more efficient with lower overhead. The Big 3 are just toppling under their own weight.--->JMS

I agree with this, however you can't agree that government taking over industries is a good thing.

only if it's necessary. then the taxpayer should have large voice in how the company operates. it's was necessary in banking. it's OUR money we should dictate policy.

[zman1200]

Many out of state workers whom I have the privalige to know had large partys . in nov and jan .then jan 31 and the axe started to fall. they are now unemployed and have changed there partying to fear and regret. I wonder how this board would change if the AXE hits home

[fullthrottle666]

Many out of state workers whom I have the privalige to know had large partys . in nov and jan .then jan 31 and the axe started to fall. they are now unemployed and have changed there partying to fear and regret. I wonder how this board would change if the AXE hits home

my advice for you is cut back on the partying

[fullthrottle666]

GM sent out a letter to owners of dealerships that have their whole lives invested in GM, some multi generations of owners telling them 'find a new job dude" your outa here! a LETTER in the mail is all they got! "F^ck You is what it said!

tell me all about corporate benevolence and philanthropy

[bassist_25]

Many out of state workers whom I have the privalige to know had large partys . in nov and jan .then jan 31 and the axe started to fall. they are now unemployed and have changed there partying to fear and regret. I wonder how this board would change if the AXE hits home

Totally agree! The way some cats talk on here, I'd swear they never lived through hard times. I'm pretty sure that most people on here are employees at will, whether they realize that or not.

[fullthrottle666]

Well, anyway a definite boon to the USED CAR lots that Altoona is so famous for (3 on every block)

[f.sciarrillo]

Well, anyway a definite boon to the USED CAR lots that Altoona is so famous for (3 on every block)

True - I went to Blue Knob Auto yesterday to look around and the place was packed. Then went past Courtesy and Dean Patterson on the way home; they were both ghost towns ..

[JackANSI]

One of the things I hear all the time with people around my age. I bought a new car once, never again...

If process of buying a car from a dealership didn't involve an hour or two of 'checking with the manager' over prices, they might actually sell more.

AFAIK blue knob is pretty much, what you see is what you pay.

[bassist_25]

New cars are overpriced, IMO. I could see paying $30,000 (not including insurance, taxes, maintenance, and interest if you're financing) for something that lasts a couple of decades, but it doesn't make sense to me to pay that kind of money for something that you're going to get rid of a few years down the road anyways, and at a loss on top of that. It's like paying $150 for a trendy Affliction shirt when that will be out of style before it even gets worn out rather than investing it in a stylish piece of a wardrobe that will last you a life time. Considering the depreciation of vehicles, I don't ever plan on buying a brand new vehicle unless I'm pulling $100,000k+ a year. I'd rather pay $10,000 for a high quality used car with low miles and spend the rest on something else that's more valuable to me, like a house...or bass gear.

[JackANSI]

Word. Pleather never goes out of style.

[Banned]

New cars are overpriced, IMO. I could see paying $30,000 (not including insurance, taxes, maintenance, and interest if you're financing) for something that lasts a couple of decades, but it doesn't make sense to me to pay that kind of money for something that you're going to get rid of a few years down the road anyways, and at a loss on top of that. It's like paying $150 for a trendy Affliction shirt when that will be out of style before it even gets worn out rather than investing it in a stylish piece of a wardrobe that will last you a life time. Considering the depreciation of vehicles, I don't ever plan on buying a brand new vehicle unless I'm pulling $100,000k+ a year. I'd rather pay $10,000 for a high quality used car with low miles and spend the rest on something else that's more valuable to me, like a house...or bass gear.

Fuckin' A!!!

[bassist_25]

Word. Pleather never goes out of style.

Amen to that.