BRADY OUT FOR THE SEASON!!

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People hate Brady because of how good he is. I think he is one of the best quarterbacks in NFL history, not to mention, one of the classiest guys in the NFL.
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I didn’t wish an injury on Brady but my first thought was yessss.

I don’t know how much that hurt and I don’t care. He signed up for the chance to get hurt when he became an NFL player. I also had nothing to do with the injury so I feel no guilt.

I just love the thought of the Steelers going all the way.

I don’t think that makes me a bad person…..just human
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It sucks that it might be a career ending injury..or even a season ending injury...but still BWA HAA HAA HAA HAA!!!!! SUCK IT BRADY!!!!!
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DirtySanchez wrote: Write a myspace blog about how mean we all are and send it to your top eight. Maybe they'll care :roll:
Since I'm not a football fan, I have no opinion over this guy getting hurt. However, this is the funniest thing I've read all week. There are still four more days to go too, but someone will really have to saying something witty to top Sanchez. :D
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f.sciarrillo wrote:People hate Brady because of how good he is. I think he is one of the best quarterbacks in NFL history, not to mention, one of the classiest guys in the NFL.
I think I may vomit. Oh wait, I just did, first it was just a little bit in my mouth, but then I couldn't control it and it spewed all over the place.

If you wanna talk about the "best in NFL history," let's talk about people who are in the Hall of Fame and who didn't cheat to earn the accolades they enjoy. Let’s talk about Starr, Namath, Marino, Bradshaw, Unitas, Montana, Aikman (ugh), Elway and soon, Favre, to name a few.

As to Jake and his viewpoint, I see what you're saying but I think you have at least some of us all wrong. It's been pointed out that "Mr. Classy" :roll: signed up for the risk of getting hurt just like everyone else in the NFL. Football is a CONTACT SPORT. Injuries are par for the course and injuries play into the strategy. When Fast Willie broke his leg last year, he was leading the league in rushing yards but I bet the rest of the AFC (and their fans) was thrilled to hear he wasn’t going to be available for the post season, not because they want him to suffer pain, but because he wasn’t going to be on the field causing grief.

I personally do not wish for anyone to get hurt (especially seriously, and we've all seen what happens on the field when someone suffers a serious injury, EVERYONE stops, forgets about the score, the game, the playoff hunt and all that crap, they form a circle with their "enemies on the field" and pray), but when key players do get hurt and it's advantageous to your team, then so be it. When Kimo rolled up on Carson Palmer's leg, you could see instantly that Kimo was distraught about what happened (even though the Bengals and their fans implied he did it on purpose — Christ, Kimo used to BE a Bengal :roll:), but the fact is, knocking a QB out of the game is the mission of every defensive player on the other side of the ball and when Palmer went out, the momentum definitely swung the other way. That doesn’t mean players are out to tear someone’s ACL, it just means they’re out to knock someone on their ass and out of the game. Sometimes, your ACL tears during these collisions.

That's what makes football football. It's a game of attrition, hard hits and people sitting down because they can't go anymore. Anytime a defensive back goes out for a play, the opposing offense ALWAYS attacks the back up DB with a bomb (Green Bay's Rodgers picked on a replacement DB for a 53-yard completion just last night). When starters go out, it leaves a weakness and offers an advantage. It’s part of the game. It’s not touch football.

Bottom line, a torn ACL is something that unfortunately happens and when it happens to the starting QB of a team that your team may see in the playoffs, it's a good thing strategically. I doubt anyone in the AFC was personally happy that Brady suffered pain but I guarantee you everyone is happy he’s not playing this year. Nothing personal. Jake, you should take all this a little less personally and it for what it is: A strategic advantage, especially for those teams in the AFC East.

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hey maybe this will happen to Rothenberger ?a torn acl then i would be happy. lmfas you people are too much you know that!
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deathdealer1000 wrote:hey maybe this will happen to Rothenberger ?a torn acl then i would be happy. lmfas you people are too much you know that!
And if you're not a Steelers fan, you have every right to be happy if one of our key players gets benched, especially for the season, as I'm sure many were happy when Willie broke his leg..

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deathdealer1000 wrote:hey maybe this will happen to Rothenberger ?a torn acl then i would be happy. lmfas you people are too much you know that!
And if you're not a Steelers fan, you have every right to be happy if one of our key players gets benched, especially for the season, as I'm sure many were happy when Willie broke his leg..

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I don't think I have too many of you pegged wrong. You're mostly just die hard "insert team name here" fans and wish key players of opposing teams can't play so that your team can do potentially do better this season... That (in itself) doesn't make you a bad person.

But, to wish pain and injury on someone so your favorite team might have a slightly better chance to win 1 more game that season - that sort of does...

It also makes you sound scared your team can't beat the opposition without help, but I have more faith in the Steelers.

I'm a sports fan, a football fan, and just so happen to have a favorite team (Steelers), so I don't want to see anyone get hurt. I know they signed up for that by being professional athletes and are paid well to take these risks - but that doesn't make me want to cheer when an opposing player is in pain and out for the season.

To me, that shows a lack of class.

Which is why I brought up the Olhoffen/Palmer injury. Although he was an opposing player and injuring him helped the Steelers - he was visibly sad about the fact that he just messed up a guys leg, and possibly his career... He showed class when he injured Palmer.

I want the Steelers to beat the NEP with their best men on the field...otherwise, the NEP will cry about the season and blame their losses on the key injury.

And who want's to give Randy Moss a reason to cry?
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JakeWilliams wrote: I want the Steelers to beat the NEP with their best men on the field...otherwise, the NEP will cry about the season and blame their losses on the key injury.
I don't want to jump in on this, I just thought the above was a good point. 8)
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you can think I'm a bad person, I don't care. I was happy as a pig in shit when Brady went down, they should amputate his leg without anesthetic and let me listen to the screams of agony from him... sorry, i couldn't care less about brady or the whole cheating Pats team for that matter. In my opinion, they should've been banned for this entire season from the spygate scandal ... they make me sick in general, and that couldn't of happened to a better person! FUCK THE PATS!
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Well, I'm not gonna waste much more time trying to explain how football is a game of attrition to someone who obviously doesn't get it and doesn't read posts other than the ones he composes. Just like chess, you do your best to render the opponent's queen (quarterback) and other strength pieces (WRs, RBs) harmless and then outlast them.

There's no such thing as an NFL team that doesn't sustain injuries through the course of the season and teams write their game plans around those injuries. It's part of the game.

I'd like you to show me where I ever said I wished Brady would get hurt. I never wished for it, I don't have a voodoo doll, but I'm definitely not upset it happened. If he weren't a douche and a cheater, maybe, but he's both so no pity here. Plus, as has been said, he accepted the risk of injury as a football player and he'll be paid handsomely to rehab his "wittle knee."

Apparently, some would have them playing in tu-tus and blowing bubbles out there. :roll:

The Steelers play every year it seems with someone key out with an injury, but you can't cry about it, you look to your bench and deal with it.

But, Mr. Williams seems to have all of us "pegged here," so, in that case ...
HAHAHA!!! BRADY TORE HIS ACL!!! HAHAHA!!! IT'S A CELEBRATION!!! WOOOOO WEEEEEE!!!!!
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Wow. Could you be any more dramatic? A few of us are happy to see the Pats get a little karma smack them in the face and all of the sudden the world is a dark and dismal place. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Eff Brady and the Pats. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch.

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Football is a game played by grow men trying to kill each other. Players like Jack Lambert, Greg Lloyd, Lawrence Taylor, Jack Tatum etc. Never apologized for kicking the shit out of someone on a football field. If you want a friendly sport try golf.

Fuck the Pats.
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BadDazeRob wrote:...
Gawd ur dumb.

Of course I understand injuries are part of the game. Where did I ever say I want them in tutu's or to play touch ball, or whatever you're trying to imply?

My point is simple.

If you wish pain and agony over another human being - just because they're on an opposing sports team...

THEN YOU REALLY HAVE YOUR PRIORITES AND VALUES MESSED UP.

I love the Steelers, but I wish we had the opportunity to kick the Patriots asses with Brady at the helm...
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fahy34 wrote:Football is a game played by grow men trying to kill each other. Players like Jack Lambert, Greg Lloyd, Lawrence Taylor, Jack Tatum etc. Never apologized for kicking the shit out of someone on a football field. If you want a friendly sport try golf.

Fuck the Pats.
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One other point to make in this discussion. Why do you think millions and millions of people watch NASCAR? To watch 40+ cars make 500 miles of left turns? Probably not. They watch it to see fiery collisions and bending sheet metal.

If that's the case there are a lot of people with 'messed up priorities' in this world.
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JakeWilliams wrote:Gawd ur dumb.
And the grade school antics begin. Glad I shave my head, you'd be pulling my hair any minute after the name calling started. :roll:
JakeWilliams wrote:My point is simple.

If you wish pain and agony over another human being - just because they're on an opposing sports team...

THEN YOU REALLY HAVE YOUR PRIORITES AND VALUES MESSED UP.
Nowe, i reeleyes me is dumm, butt pleez sho me wear me wishd pane an agonee on aneeone?

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BadDazeRob wrote:Nowe, i reeleyes me is dumm, butt pleez sho me wear me wishd pane an agonee on aneeone?
The reason I said, Gawd ur dumb... Is that you think my posts are about you or what you've said.

They're not. Every post either responded to someone's exact quote, or stated how I felt about something in general - end of story.

Show me where I insulted YOU or anything YOU said, and I'll apologize. Look back on this post...go ahead. When I replied to anyone individually, I had a specific reason. The only specific response that I made to BadDazeRob was that I didn't see how any of those pictures you posted made me hate Tom Brady??? And I still don't.

But for some reason - You're responses have always carried the tone that I directed some negativity towards you, which I did not... Until the gawd you're dumb comment...which only was made to exemplify the fact that nothing I said prior to that point - was directed at you - yet for some reason - you continued to respond to every post I made with long explanations of...whatever...insinuating that I insulted you...

I always direct my negativity to peoples exact words, or a general thought. And I don't recall posting anything bad about badDazeRob or anything you posted on this subject - so what's up? What are you actually mad about me saying?

I think people that wish injury on others are kinda messed up in general...

That is my opinion, which I believe I'm entitled to. And other than that general philosophy, which I've kept consistent in this entire post...What are you actually mad about Mr. BadDazeRob?

Show me where I insulted YOU or anything YOU posted? If you do, I will apologize, because that was not my intention and I can admit when i'm wrong...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1iVRRu6w0

Favorite play ever. Poor quality.
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witchhunt wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1iVRRu6w0

Favorite play ever. Poor quality.

I was watching a celeb charity golf tourny last year, and Theismann and Taylor were in the same group. At the first tee, Joe was lining up his shot, took his backswing and noticed LT standing behind him. Theismann stopped his swing, pointed to LT and said, "get over here where I can see you" and pointed to the other side of the tee box right in front of him. It was hilarious. Oh BTW,

FUCK BRADY, THE PATS, AND ALL OF THEIR FANS!
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Never "got mad." Also, never asked for an apology. If you wanna say, "gawd ur dumb" then that's your perrogative.
JakeWilliams wrote:The only specific response that I made to BadDazeRob was that I didn't see how any of those pictures you posted made me hate Tom Brady ... And I don't recall posting anything bad about badDazeRob or anything you posted on this subject - so what's up?
BadDazeRob wrote:As to Jake and his viewpoint, I see what you're saying but I think you have at least some of us all wrong.
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deathdealer1000 wrote:hey maybe this will happen to Rothenberger ?a torn acl then i would be happy. lmfas you people are too much you know that!
And if you're not a Steelers fan, you have every right to be happy if one of our key players gets benched, especially for the season, as I'm sure many were happy when Willie broke his leg..

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I don't think I have too many of you pegged wrong. You're mostly just die hard "insert team name here" fans and wish key players of opposing teams can't play so that your team can do potentially do better this season... That (in itself) doesn't make you a bad person.

But, to wish pain and injury on someone so your favorite team might have a slightly better chance to win 1 more game that season - that sort of does...

It also makes you sound scared your team can't beat the opposition without help, but I have more faith in the Steelers.

I'm a sports fan, a football fan, and just so happen to have a favorite team (Steelers), so I don't want to see anyone get hurt. I know they signed up for that by being professional athletes and are paid well to take these risks - but that doesn't make me want to cheer when an opposing player is in pain and out for the season.

To me, that shows a lack of class.

Which is why I brought up the Olhoffen/Palmer injury. Although he was an opposing player and injuring him helped the Steelers - he was visibly sad about the fact that he just messed up a guys leg, and possibly his career... He showed class when he injured Palmer.

I want the Steelers to beat the NEP with their best men on the field...otherwise, the NEP will cry about the season and blame their losses on the key injury.

And who want's to give Randy Moss a reason to cry?
So myself and those who think like me, according to your own words in direct response to my post, are "die hard 'insert team name here' fans and wish key players of opposing teams can't play so that (our) team can do potentially do better this season" ... "scared (our) team can't beat the opposition without help" and we have a "lack of class."

So I guess my question to you is, "What are you actually mad about Mr. Jake Williams?" I think it might be because some people disagree with you. It's OK, as has been said (by you), everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. The funny thing is, you're judging everyone else on a moral level because they disagree with you. That shows lack of class.

I have a differing opinion on the subject and, this may come as a surprise, but I like to debate topics that interest me. Now, I'm sorry I didn't resort to kicking over your sand castle or stealing your candy bar — as a matter of fact, if you read my posts I said I understand your point of view — however my counterpoint was the same as many others: Football is a violent sport and players, teams should expect injuries, even to key players and injuries play into the strategy of a season.

For the record: I agree with you that you shouldn't wish for players on opposing teams to suffer injuries. Karma is a bitch. That being said, it is somewhat, for lack of a better word, "satisfying" to see karma play out on someone like Tom Brady and the New England Patriots. Am I happy the Pats are in a bind, losing "Jesus Christ" from their ranks? Damn right, the team had it coming — karma. Hey, it wasn't too long ago Pittsburgh lost its starting QB for the season after he was hit by a car (I know he played but any Pittsburgh fan knows he wasn't really on the field for most of the season that year) and I'm sure Steeler haters just loved it, not because the guy was hit by a car, but because it meant the Steelers probably weren't going to repeat.

You've been generalizing by saying, anyone who's happy about a key player on an opposing team going down has serious issues, and you're making it sound like being happy about it is the same as wishing for it. When you generalize, you target more than one person with your comments, especially when you imply that true football fans wouldn't be happy about the Brady situation. Rubbish. Dude's a millionnaire and dates a supermodel. He's gonna be just fine.

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BadDazeRob wrote:...
The only part of my post that was a direct response to you was the paragraph following your quote where I said...
JakeWilliams wrote:I don't think I have too many of you pegged wrong. You're mostly just die hard "insert team name here" fans and wish key players of opposing teams can't play so that your team can do potentially do better this season... That (in itself) doesn't make you a bad person.
Everything that followed that was my opinion in general. If you did not read it that way, then I fully apologize for the misunderstanding.

Maybe I should have put a break or something between that paragraph and the rest so you knew the rest was not specifically directed at you. Is there some kind of blog/post thing you can do for that?
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BadDazeRob wrote:You've been generalizing by saying, anyone who's happy about a key player on an opposing team going down has serious issues, and you're making it sound like being happy about it is the same as wishing for it.
Being happy about a football player's injury (to the point of cheering when it happens, which is what set this post off) does not seem (in my mind) that much different than wishing for it. Both seem to show Schadenfreude...

Also, BadDazeRob,
Did you read the comparison I wrote in response to a whichhunt comment where I comare this "player hating" to "musician hating"? What is your response to that? Can you see how messed up the "hater" sounds when you put it in a different context?


My general point has been consistenet in every post I've made.

If you wish INJURY on another human being for WHATEVER REASON (like because they are on an opposing sports team), then I do believe you have your priorities messed up. Seriously, you're wishing someone go through pain and agony because you don't like the f-ing sports team they're on.

Is that a society with it's morals and values in check? My opinion is NO.

I know it's part of the game, and I don't hold it against anyone who injurs another football player. They know it happens and they're playing anyway, and most of the players do not hold it against the player who hurts them...

That has nothing to do with my point, though. I'm simply stating that for outside fans, to cheer for injuries, is pretty disgusting.
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Dawn was right. We're fucked up. Please wear a condom. That is all.
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DirtySanchez wrote:Dawn was right. We're fucked up. Please wear a condom. That is all.
lol...

PS. To all. I am on vacation in NYC and have free time, so I'm posting a lot more than normal, and will debate this as long as people respond.

I have an opinion I'm trying to defend...that is all. If you are offended by what I say or think I am unfairly judging you, post. It appears you will be defended very well, as I'm getting crusified...

And all I keep saying is that people shouldn't wish pain and agony (injuries) on any sports figure (like a football player) just because they are on an opposing team...

It's actually pretty funny for me to read how many people don't get that basic point and come back and say - "Brady sucks" or "Fuck the Pats" or "Injuries are part of football"...

lol.
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JakeWilliams wrote:Also, BadDazeRob,
Did you read the comparison I wrote in response to a whichhunt comment where I comare this "player hating" to "musician hating"? What is your response to that? Can you see how messed up the "hater" sounds when you put it in a different context?
First, you're right, you're taking it in a completely different context. There is no strategic advantage to a musician getting sidelined unless you view the local music scene as a competition, which I personally don't. There is no "music season" where the best band gets the prize at the end. If you do view this scene as a competition, then may I suggest that you have your priorities messed up. In pro sports, the last team standing gets the prize. We're all in this together.
JakeWilliams wrote:And all I keep saying is that people shouldn't wish pain and agony (injuries) on any sports figure (like a football player) just because they are on an opposing team...

It's actually pretty funny for me to read how many people don't get that basic point ...
... and all I keep saying is feeling that "justice has been served" on a cheating football francise and being happy about the team's situation is not the same as wishing for someone to suffer an injury. It's actually pretty funny to me to read how you don't get that basic point.

Oh, and ... BRADY SUCKS!!! I HATE THE PATS!!! :twisted:

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