Keith Olbermann responds to Bush's BBC remarks

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Hawk wrote: I have yet to check your facts. Where did these people get their facts from.

It's a fact that the CIA will say anything the President wants them to say. People have quit the CIA because of the way their reports were minipulated . that's a fact. Intelligence reports were "spun" to suit Bush by orders from Bush. What do you have to say about that ? THAT"S RIGHT and a fact. Bush minipulated the facts and too many believed him . He even fooled Democrats because no one would believe a President would do ANYTHING it takes to start a war.

Every report said Suddam had NOTHING to do with 911. Yet that was repeated by Bush as the reason we must go to war.

Besides, did you respond to the facts I gave........uh........I don't think so.
You didn't give me any facts, brother. And as far as your CIA conspiracy theory, you should make yourself a foil hat, because if you believe it, you're pretty far out there. And you won't find anything to support that theory, because it's just a loony theory with no factual basis. Our CIA, the UK Intelligence agencies, Russian intelligence, all believed Saddam to possess WMDs (much more than we ever found there). The "Bush lied, Bush manipulated" theories just don't hold up to scrutiny.

Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. That might be the only thing we agree on. There were Al Qaida in Iraq prior to 9/11 however, and that has been widely reported and verified.

We could argue this all day, but you won't change my opinion and I won't change yours.
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Zinger wrote: Anyways I'm not backing any political party,but in all my years and administation Ive seen this one BY far is the worst this county has EVER seen.
Economy...War...Enron...Fuel prices...health care.... Precription drugs...Ect I could go on forever

Politics is like religion never talk them with family or friends!! I respect everyone here and I don't want to tarnish it over a couple of Idiots in the white house..senate or house either Repulican or Democrat

That's what I love about America you can say what you want and feel
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Dude, what are you talking about? The ecomony is BOOMING! The Dow is record-high, unemployment is insanely low. This, despite the fact that we are fighting a war on two fronts. Enron? That happened under the Clinton administration. Fuel prices? It's called free market economy and supply-and-demand. I could go on forever...
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For Blain

Just started Checking. June 2006. White House says no weapons found.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01837.html
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Merge wrote:If a Democrat gets in the White House in 2008, see how long it takes for the terrorists to attack. I guess that will be Bush's fault, too.
My own theory. Bin Laden agreed to stop terrorist attacks in the US if Bush agreed to take out Hussain. Keeping the middle east in turmoil keeps oil prices high. Bush looks like he's doing his job and Bin Laden is free. If a Democrat takes office the deal is off. Strikes begin.

Had we used our resources to destroy Al qaeda and Bin Laden we'd be better off.
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Blain. I don't feel like repeating my facts. Just reread my posts please.

Bush manipulated intelligence.

Iraq and Hussein had NOTHING to do with 911.

No weapons have been found.

Bush fooled the Democrats.

I can't find anything yet to support your facts of WMD.

Bush lied. Intelligence said there were no weapons. and Hussein had NOTHING to do with Bin Laden.

Just a few of MY facts.
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I agree what Bin Laden needs to be taken out, but I believe that the world is a better place without Saddam Hussain.
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Merge wrote:I agree what Bin Laden needs to be taken out, but I believe that the world is a better place without Saddam Hussein.
I do too. But at a cost of hundreds of US soldiers lives, and Thousands and thousands of US soldiers life time of disabilities wasn't the way to do it.
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More reading for Blain.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/12/wmd.search/

Us gives up search for weapons
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You guys are getting all wrapped up into politics. This war isn't about politics. The war is about extreme muslim factions waging war against western civilization. I don't care who voted this or that, or who found weapons where. This is about establishing and spreading democracy to fight terrorism. Children in the facist extreme governments are brainwashed to hate us. If we spread a fundamentally good society, that shit will stop. We need to get the world on track, or we will all be paying tenfold a few years down the road. The price we pay right now is minimal to what we will pay if we give up. Do you know that terrorists plan on detonating nuclear devices in at least 7 major cities in the US?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=45203

If we do nothing, we're toast. If we pull out of Iraq prematurely, we're toast. If we let Iran's leader keep preaching the hate, we're toast. That's what we are up against. We can pull of like a bunch of sissies, or we can fight until we win and make the world a safer and better place.
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My father and 3 brothers were on active duty in 2003-2004. Anyone that joins the military knows that there is a chance that they might have to fight in a war. I don't want to see any of our soldiers injured or killed, but those soldiers knew the risks when they enlisted. The question "Would you send your child to Iraq" is absurd. That "child" has to 18 to enlist, the parents have no say in what he/she does. Cindy Sheehan's son is rolling over in his grave. He enlisted to protect this country and paid the ultimate price, and for that he should be remembered. Cindy Sheehan is nothing more than a publicity hound who is making money off of her son's name. With a little luck, time will forget Cindy Sheehan.
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Ultimately, this is proof that MSNBC will never be a credible news source. Olbermann has been trying out for Comedy Central and he should have never left ESPN.

Does anyone remember when MSNBC gambled on Phil Donahue out of retirement? Have you noticed that they play “headliners and legends” most of the weekend?
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Hawk wrote:For CIA says no weapons found.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01837.html
In the interest of national security and intelligence, do you really think that they’d disclose their findings if they found WMDs? Think about it!
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Hawk wrote:For CIA says no weapons found.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01837.html
In the interest of national security and intelligence, do you really think that they’d disclose their findings if they found WMDs? Think about it!
So your point is That the CIA (under Bush) would like to make a fool of Bush by saying Bush was wrong, and there are no weapons. That's what you said.

That's not logical !
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Hawk wrote:
Bert|Evil wrote:
Hawk wrote:For CIA says no weapons found.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01837.html
In the interest of national security and intelligence, do you really think that they’d disclose their findings if they found WMDs? Think about it!
So your point is That the CIA (under Bush) would like to make a fool of Bush by saying Bush was wrong, and there are no weapons. That's what you said.

That's not logical !
That’s not what I said at all! Smoke another one!

Take the Cold War, for example. If we found something that the USSR was hiding, would we automatically make it public knowledge? In other words, does the media know every aspect of national security?

Some things are still sacred, and the media types are the bottom feeders of American professionalism. They’ll pick apart anything that they’ll get their claws on, and many people (like yourself) will believe it.
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Dude, what are you talking about? The ecomony is BOOMING! The Dow is record-high, unemployment is insanely low. This, despite the fact that we are fighting a war on two fronts. Enron? That happened under the Clinton administration. Fuel prices? It's called free market economy and supply-and-demand. I could go on forever...
Look around Blain, yeah the Unemployment is down but what kind of Good paying jobs we talking? Wal-mart? Mcdonalds? that will get you off the unemployment Stats, Oh and also if you run out of unemployment Cause theres no extentions, your off the unemployment stats!

Look at the people living at or below the poverty rate then come say something about the economy, One of my best friends lost his job with a outsourced company"College Educated" Pennstate Grad and guess what! Bartender at $6.00 an houe with 2 kids in college and can't find a good quality job
even willing to relocate. No good

Don't listen to the media,news or anything else!! JUST look around talk to people,Don't look at life through rose colored glasses, And let the So called liberal media tell you the facts*sarcasm Alert*
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Blain wrote:
Zinger wrote: Anyways I'm not backing any political party,but in all my years and administation Ive seen this one BY far is the worst this county has EVER seen.
Economy...War...Enron...Fuel prices...health care.... Precription drugs...Ect I could go on forever

Politics is like religion never talk them with family or friends!! I respect everyone here and I don't want to tarnish it over a couple of Idiots in the white house..senate or house either Repulican or Democrat

That's what I love about America you can say what you want and feel
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Dude, what are you talking about? The ecomony is BOOMING! The Dow is record-high, unemployment is insanely low. This, despite the fact that we are fighting a war on two fronts. Enron? That happened under the Clinton administration. Fuel prices? It's called free market economy and supply-and-demand. I could go on forever...
Amen, brother!!
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Bert|Evil wrote:
Hawk wrote:For CIA says no weapons found.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01837.html
In the interest of national security and intelligence, do you really think that they’d disclose their findings if they found WMDs? Think about it!
What are you smoking ? If they found WMD they would be holding news conferences every day so that they could say they were right. Why the hell would they hide the fact that they found WMD in a defeated country.

During the cold war, we WERE TOLD RUSSIA HAD MMD. Where were you, or I should ask what were you smoking ?
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Amen to what?? That bush won't tap into our fuel reserve to drop oil prices like someone else did when open and the rest of the oil barons pulled this shit ,Free market yeah I guess we have almost 200 years of untapped oil reserves in this county why don't we tap some?"THATS not including the alaskan Oil wich we should leave be.

I'll tell you why 14 trillion in iraq Bush sleeping with the Saudis' the carlye group,Halliburtion.
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Zinger wrote:
Look at the people living at or below the poverty rate then come say something about the economy, One of my best friends lost his job with a outsourced company"College Educated" Pennstate Grad and guess what! Bartender at $6.00 an houe with 2 kids in college and can't find a good quality job
even willing to relocate. No good
I’m convinced that he’s not looking very hard.
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A free market is NOT when prices are artificiaully held high for the greedy oil mongers.

The Enron People were friends of Bush. (Enron built him a stadium). And Enron people were hand picked by Bush for government Energy jobs.

Is that what you call a free ecomomy ?

I could go on and on .
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Hawk wrote:
Bert|Evil wrote:
Hawk wrote:For CIA says no weapons found.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01837.html
In the interest of national security and intelligence, do you really think that they’d disclose their findings if they found WMDs? Think about it!
What are you smoking ? If they found WMD they would be holding news conferences every day so that they could say they were right. Why the hell would they hide the fact that they found WMD in a defeated country.

During the cold war, we WERE TOLD RUSSIA HAD MMD. Where were you, or I should ask what were you smoking ?
You’re missing the point completely!
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So what's your point ?
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I’m convinced that he’s not looking very hard.
I'll tell him that,I hope when you get in your mid 40's to early 50's you don't get the rug pulled out from underneath you and they won't hire you cause of your age and too over experienced. And you got bills and the Company gives you a big shit sandwich to eat.

Cause by your attitude I'd say you barely 35 if even that. To say something like that is just disrespectful
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Iv'e had enough, This is my last thread to all the neo-nazi bush lovers join the army. to the rest of ya Support your opions keep you mind open and don't let Big Brother tell you that you don't exist :D
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