remember to take care of your bartenders and waitresses

[drums=life]

I was at this club in Pittsburgh and there was a sign above the bar that read " you get your drink in 90 seconds or they fire the bartender" that's what im talkin about. I tip according to the service etc..

Im glad i dont work for tips, and cheers to all of you who do!!!

[Scooter0177]

As a bartender I feel that I have to respond to this... Something that most do not understand is that most bartenders, servers, and waiters/waitresses do not make minimum wage and therefore rely on tips to make up that difference. We notice a good tipper and do tend to try and give them more prompt service. And also think about all of the things that we have to deal with.....People constantly yelling to get our attention when we are busy....Loud music which makes it difficult to hear what our patrons are ordering... The PLCB laws that can not only cost the bar that we work at but also cost us a fine and in most cases losing our job.... That is not to say that all that we serve are jerks and give us a hard time, but understand for every idiot that we have to deal with it takes time away from the people that we like to serve....Which in some cases people take as poor service when in fact we are just trying to deal with a situation that could cost us and the establishment a great deal...Most of us bartenders respect the people who tip us well and try to match that generosity by giving a better level of service... We have a tough job sometimes.... But those of you who treat us well make it worthwhile... So the next time you are waiting at the bar and the server is a little busy - try and understand... In a busy bar there are how many patrons and only a few to serve the masses.

[lonewolf]

I feel that it is a bar patron's responsibility to tip bartenders & waitresses just like tipping when in a restaurant. Most of them only get paid wait staff wage which is significantly lower than minimum wage. When out as a bar patron I am usually pretty generous. It depends where I'm at, but sometimes I tip after each drink and sometimes at the end of the night.

Playing out is another story. Unless I stick around for drinks after the gig, I don't feel any more obligated to tip the staff than they feel obligated to tip me. Of course, I don't drink much while playing and often just have water--I don't require much service. If I'm getting any more than this minimum, I will tip them appropriately.

This would be different if I was guzzling drinks, but if I ever feel the need to tip the staff $10 or $20 before a gig, then I am probably drinking way too much on the job.

[Plastered Bastards]

Being in a band down here in Pittsburgh.We usually play the Smiling Moose,in which there is never a cover charge.The bands get paid from the bar sales,so our plan is that while we are playing we "remind" everyone to tip their bartenders after every 2 songs.On the plus side we get free shots of bourbon all night long.
So just do it and the bartenders will be very happy people.

Cheers!!!!!!!!

[Banned]

This tipping thing strikes me as odd and well just plain 'wrong'. When i get good (see adequate) service at a business where i am spending my money i should compensate the employee? why? shouldn't i expect good service as a matter of fact? irealize that the 'cats out of the bag' on this one but i can't help but feeling cheated, like i am responsible for compensating inadequately paid employess.

[SuffrInLys]

tip your local furniture delivery men!! everyone tips a pizza guy a couple of bucks to deliver a pizza but when some one delivers an entire house full of furniture on a 100 degree day or a negative 20 degree day where your hands are about to fall off and the furniture gets up to five hundred pounds for two guys people half the time don't even say thanks..

the number of people who are tipping delivery teams has been growing but i thought that i would throw that out there to help out my friends

but back to the bar tender thing i usually add about 15 to 20 onto my tab at he end of the night.. from a bartender's prospective is that good?

[Banned]

Maybe i am in different dimension .. but pay additional $ if someone does their job.. like its special or something? Oh, wonderful, you dint break my furniture mr employee of professional moving co so i will reward you for doing your job too? this is so twisted. hello. its in your job description that yu dint fukup/. I already payed for the service. Is it MY obligation to pay you a bonus for simply doing your job, above what i ALREADY payed what your employer thought the job was worrth????

this i so twisted..

[RobTheDrummer]

Maybe i am in different dimension .. but pay additional $ if someone does their job.. like its special or something? Oh, wonderful, you dint break my furniture mr employee of professional moving co so i will reward you for doing your job too? this is so twisted. hello. its in your job description that yu dint fukup/. I already payed for the service. Is it MY obligation to pay you a bonus for simply doing your job, above what i ALREADY payed what your employer thought the job was worrth????

this i so twisted..

Your tip is a part of their wages jackass.

[Banned]

Maybe i am in different dimension .. but pay additional $ if someone does their job.. like its special or something? Oh, wonderful, you dint break my furniture mr employee of professional moving co so i will reward you for doing your job too? this is so twisted. hello. its in your job description that yu dint fukup/. I already payed for the service. Is it MY obligation to pay you a bonus for simply doing your job, above what i ALREADY payed what your employer thought the job was worrth????

this i so twisted..

Your tip is a part of their wages jackass.

Hey, no offence. but
That is the point but why should it be? Why should I re-compense for work I already payed for? I understand that it is convention now but whY?

[BURK]

Maybe i am in different dimension .. but pay additional $ if someone does their job.. like its special or something? Oh, wonderful, you dint break my furniture mr employee of professional moving co so i will reward you for doing your job too? this is so twisted. hello. its in your job description that yu dint fukup/. I already payed for the service. Is it MY obligation to pay you a bonus for simply doing your job, above what i ALREADY payed what your employer thought the job was worrth????

this i so twisted..

Buy a 30 Pack and drink at home then... If you can't appreciate how the service industry works then simply don't use it...

Service yourself!!!

I'm sorry but your post chapped my ass a bit...

-BURK

[VENTGtr]

Maybe i am in different dimension .. but pay additional $ if someone does their job.. like its special or something? Oh, wonderful, you dint break my furniture mr employee of professional moving co so i will reward you for doing your job too? this is so twisted. hello. its in your job description that yu dint fukup/. I already payed for the service. Is it MY obligation to pay you a bonus for simply doing your job, above what i ALREADY payed what your employer thought the job was worrth????

this i so twisted..

I undertand what you mean in theory...but as has been pointed out, tips are part
of their wages. ACTUALLY, it's ALSO an incentive for them to provide better
service. Better, faster service and making your drinking, eating, etc. experience
as positive as can be is part of their job and you let them know this by the tip.

That being said, if someone's service is AWFUL, it gives you the option of letting
them know it. We went for breakfast this morning and, where we go, there's one
waitress/server/whatever you prefer to call, that we (And, from what I've heard,
everyone else) try to avoid.

This place is right around the corner from our house and, with the exception of
this part of their staff, it's good, cheap, etc.

Anyway, today was a new low for her and, while I can't NOT leave something, we
left very little.

When you have to ask someone else who works there send her over to take your
order after a long while and remind her a few times that she's forgotten things
you ordered, have to bother other staff for a coffee refill, etc., etc. then they
don't deserve the tip.

[RobTheDrummer]

Maybe i am in different dimension .. but pay additional $ if someone does their job.. like its special or something? Oh, wonderful, you dint break my furniture mr employee of professional moving co so i will reward you for doing your job too? this is so twisted. hello. its in your job description that yu dint fukup/. I already payed for the service. Is it MY obligation to pay you a bonus for simply doing your job, above what i ALREADY payed what your employer thought the job was worrth????

this i so twisted..

Your tip is a part of their wages jackass.

Hey, no offence. but
That is the point but why should it be? Why should I re-compense for work I already payed for? I understand that it is convention now but whY?

First off, it's PAID not PAYED. What the fuck does re-compense mean? Offense instead of offence.

Now with that being said, why should we change what is socially accepted as the norm all because of some idiot troll like yourself that doesn't think it should be?

[SuffrInLys]

HOLY SHIT! I haven't actually laughed out loud for a a long time while reading a post on here. Thanks Rob


but back to the other guy.. so you think it would be great for a waitress/waiter to only make that 2 dollars and some odd cents an hour?


let us say in a world where your way is accepted..

1) there would be no one to wait on you because it would not be worth the few bucks an hour to do it

2) try getting a pizza with out a delivery guy because he can't afford the gas and abuse on their vehicle

3) try getting info on that new car/cell phone/sofa/ anything that invovles commission because if they weren't making it they wouldn't be there either

4) could you imagine the armed forces that would recieve no extra comp for taking deadly jobs.... because you know.. fuck em that is what they signed up for.. running through a desert full of land mines and houses full of suicide bombers.. lets not give these guys college funds when they get out if they even make it out.. cause it's all in a days work!! that is what that 1200 a month the army pays them is for..

5) no bartenders so everyone would be drinking at their own houses with out this beautiful thing that is socialization because there is no bar owner in there right mind that is going to let some one self serve at their
establishment

as you can tell these aren't in a particular order but add to the list and straighten it out yourself because there are countless other jobs that your theories would intrude upon

[BDR]

... if I ever feel the need to tip the staff $10 or $20 before a gig, then I am probably drinking way too much on the job.

This was absolutely the case with me when I was drinking ... Yukon and I were way too close of friends back in the day ...

r:>)

[HurricaneBob]

Same with me and wild turkey, best move i ever made was quitting. It will be a year Jan 15th, Steelers/Colts game...lol

[BDR]

Same with me and wild turkey, best move i ever made was quitting.

Great news, Bobby ... it was three years for me in October (although I now smoke entirely too much crack ...j/k)

It will be a year Jan 15th, Steelers/Colts game...lol

That game nearly sent me off the wagon ...



r:>)

[BDR]

I guess, to sum up, tipping is obviously up to the customer, but if you choose to be a cheap ass (and I'm sorry, but leaving the two extra dimes from your change is a sure-fire way to get a "saliva slammer" for your next round if you even get a next round) then expect to be standing there, waiting ... and waiting ... and waiting for your next drink.

As I said in an earlier post, bartenders deal with some of the biggest assholes in town on a nightly basis for very little pay and they have a much tougher job than restaurant wait staff members ... not saying customers aren't jerks at restaurants, but they're usually not "drunk jerks."

Bartenders don't just pour drinks, they babysit, they coordinate taxi services, they repair damaged bar property, they referee fights (my wife has come home from work with blood on her blouse more than once), they deal with people who, for whatever reason, don't think it's necessary to bring their f@#king drivers license along with them (duh), they deal with "fresh 21ers" who think it's their God-given right to be served alcohol, they deal with people referring to them as "woman" or "bitch" (as in, "hey woman, get me a drink" or "hey bitch, I'm getting thirsty over here") ... they deal with a lot of horse$hit. Period.

Bottom line, if you can afford to blow your money on alcohol, then you should be able to afford appropriate tips. If that's a problem, then prepare to be ignored. If I were bartending, had 20 people at the bar and only five of them were tipping, those five folks would get my undivided attention and I'd get to the rest of them later ... maybe.

r:>)

[bassist_25]

Your tip is a part of their wages jackass.

Hey, no offence. but
That is the point but why should it be? Why should I re-compense for work I already payed for? I understand that it is convention now but whY?

First off, it's PAID not PAYED. What the fuck does re-compense mean? Offense instead of offence.

Now with that being said, why should we change what is socially accepted as the norm all because of some idiot troll like yourself that doesn't think it should be?

Rob, no you do not want to surrender when someone makes a post like this.

[Banned]

Not sure what is funny.. "payed" and "recompense" are acceptable words in English language. Albeit, "paid" is better usage. (who really cares )

May I suggest a proctological examination for the more anal-retentive grammarians amongst you