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bassist_25 wrote:I'm not going to lose any sleep over Iran getting invaded, or North Korea for that matter. I'd still like to know the whole purpose of invading Iraq though.
Regime change is the primary reason we are there. Intervention is our middle name, balance of power is our game. We have been messing around in the middle east since WWII and we aren't about to stop now. We propped up Saddam and it was our responsibility to take him out when he destabilized the region. Thru the 90s, the security establishment tried to convince Bush I and Clinton to take Baghdad, but they wouldn't go for it. The free flow of oil is also another justification for regime change along with:

After 9/11 a tactical problem that needed undone was that we had a good deal of our troops tied up with babysitting the U.N. Iraq sanctions and guarding the no-fly zones. Finishing up Iraq would finally free them up for other deployment. Oops. Looks like they botched that one.

Then there's the WMDs. There is indisputable evidence that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons. Period. Disputing this fact is no different than disputing the Holocaust. Confiscating these were top on the list and the chief justification for the invasion. What we would all like to know is: What happened to them?

We don't know yet. Saddam may very well have dismantled these programs and disposed of the materials. If so, he f-worded up by not turning them over to the U.N. inspectors. WMDs are relatively small when compared to tactical ordnance. They could have easily packed them up and trucked them to a willing Syria or buried them in the desert. The plain truth is...we don't know.

Political extremists would like us to believe that there never were any WMDs, but thousands of dead Kurds and Shias tell a different story. Its too bad that when a half-truth is told often enough, people start believing it.
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If the whereabouts of terrorists involved in 09-11 were known for years, they must not have been apprehended due to some grander scheme. Think about it! WHY ELSE would known terrorists who were on a world-wide "most wanted list" have been allowed to roam freely around the United States??? If their whereabouts were known during the Clinton Administration, they were also sure as hell known when Dubya took office (and I mean "took"). Dubya and his administration were in power on 09-11-2001, not Clinton. Dubya never had "faulty intelligence" (Downing Street Memo/s - 'nuff said.) about Iraq, there was a much larger agenda he was focusing on, as he is now. He and his entire Adminstration have lied and done everything within their means to mislead the American people and subverted the Constitution. They should be held accountable.




Why do threads that turn into political debate keep on going? It all comes down to this: "never the twain shall meet". Undercoverjoe, lonewolf and others
have their version of the facts which they have accepted and fervently choose to believe.
I and many others have heard and seen facts, question inconsistencies, and reach our same conclusions which we fervently choose to believe. Ucjoe, lonewolf and others can pontificate, preach and twist it all they like, it doesn't change the actual truth.
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YankeeRose wrote:Ucjoe, lonewolf and others can pontificate, preach and twist it all they like, it doesn't change the actual truth.
Pontificate? Nobody on Rockpage would ever do that, your Worship.

Which actual truth are you referring to?
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lonewolf wrote: Pontificate? Nobody on Rockpage would ever do that, your Worship.

Which actual truth are you referring to?



Like I said, "never the twain shall meet".




I am referring to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.




Maybe "pontificate" was too strong?
Preach and twist I take it, are still okay. :D (Your "Worship", moi? HA!) You know what? NO! I'm not going to give the condescending and patronizing voices further audience ("HA HA", my Eminence, a JOKE! :D) ...OR a target. I've said what I wanted to and I'm going to stop reading any replies to this thread. I'm so sorry to disappoint!
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YR wrote:

"If the whereabouts of terrorists involved in 09-11 were known for years, they must not have been apprehended due to some grander scheme. Think about it! WHY ELSE would known terrorists who were on a world-wide "most wanted list" have been allowed to roam freely around the United States??? If their whereabouts were known during the Clinton Administration, they were also sure as hell known when Dubya took office (and I mean "took"). Dubya and his administration were in power on 09-11-2001, not Clinton. "

GOOD QUESTION------NOW THE ANSWER-----

The answer is Able Danger. The FBI was not allowed to heard any of the information that the Able Danger project found out. They tired to tell the FBI several times what they knew, and the Communist Clinton administration forbade this from happening.

This was the WALL that Jamie Gorleic erected and protected from her position at the Justice Dept. under Jane (Christian Burner) Reno. Tis is Clinton's contruibtion to the terrorism of 9-11.

When Bush took office, the FBI could not tell him about 4 known terrorists, Mohammed Atta included, because the FBI did not have this knowledge (or rather they were not allowed to have this info by Slick Willie.)

By that time Able Danger was disbanded.

The House in D. C. is going to have hearing about this, and the cover up by the 9-11 commission who spiked this story from the final 9-11 report.

These are real facts, but liberals ignore all of this, and just want to blame Bush.
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