I can't stop laughing at this sentence by Palin

[CHICKSINGA]

I will admit the main thing bothering me about McCain is Keating. I need to reserach that and compare it to other things like Whitewater. They may be apples and pears, per say, but corruption nonetheless. As the election nears I fear that I won't be voting for a person but rather a party.

Or possibly for no one.

[DirtySanchez]

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DirtySanchez??? What's your problem?

Let's see. Oh maybe it because 95% of your posts are arguments and flame baiting. Ban Yourself.

[CHICKSINGA]

Bush didn't scare me. 3000+ dead innocent people in the World Trade Center and insane terrorists who would kill their children to kill the "infidels" scare me.
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Are you OK with the fact that we lost 4000 American lives going after THE WRONG MAN ? You do know 911 had NOTHING to do with Iraq don't you ?

It's a fact Bush and his gang lied for the sole purpose of starting a war we shouldn't be in . McCain supports Bush all the way on this war. That should scare you.

Obama has been saying for a long time he wants bin Laden who is in Afghanistan. I'd think we should go after the terrorists rather than spend 100 years in a country where we act as the peace keepers in a civil war among their three religious factions.

Here’s the way I look at the war in Iraq. 3000+ INNOCENT people died in the towers. Not soldiers, who when they ENLIST are taking on a JOB that has a very real possibility of danger and/or death attached to the JOB description. NO ONE says “you won’t be subject to danger” when you join the military. The agreement to do this JOB states this possibility VERY CLEARLY – I have 2 nephews and many people who served in the military in my family, including my nephew Seth, who graduated from EOD in Florida as one of the 9 who made it out of 26 at the start. He diffuses bombs. He knows he could die. He also makes A LOT of money for his age doing it, which is why he does. The benefits for doing this JOB also includes money for school, lower rate VA loans and prefernce on state and federal employment lists. When you enlist you must go where they tell you, Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, wherever. And wherever you go the threat of danger or death will be part of the bargain, unless you are stateside or in an area with no action.
ALL of the men and women who died in Iraq ENLISTED. Yes. It it’s terrible that they DIED, doing the JOB they ENLISTED to do. They could have been stationed in Mogadishu and died there too.
While it as been said that there were no weapons of mass destruction per say, (although chemical gas used to kill the Kurds falls in that category as far as I am concerned), there was a dictator named Saddam Hussein that helped to fund Osama Bin Laden and Taliban factions and terrorized the people of Iraq for a very long time. To think he had nothing to do with the terrorism is truly naïve. Do I think OIL is also involved in the war? Of course. WE NEED OIL. And until the prices went insane I rarely heard people rallying for alternative fuels (of which I think are boondoggles) or drilling here or a million other ideas. But as soon fuel did go through the roof everyone gets pissed that BIG DADDY government hasn’t figured it out. I will not dispute or defend the mismanagement of the war. It’s a fact. But I don’t believe in fighting nice. If Jihadists want to sacrifice their own children in the name of Allah that automatically tells me they have left the category of HUMAN. I say bomb them off the earth for good. Yes, there will be collateral damage, with war there always is. But if you do not fight an enemy who does not fear death brutally they will never be vanquished. WAR sucks, but it is a part of humanity that, no matter how much we distain it, will not go away. MAN is an animal. We must always bear in mind for all the soldiers with valor in their hearts there is a black soul Jihadist waiting to kill him, his wife and kids, his Mom, Dad, Grandparents and anyone who does not believe in their INSANE doctrines. Islamist Fascists are propagating all over the world (do the research) and we must keep them at bay or become on of them or die. Bush didn’t instill fear in me to see this. IT IS A FACT. I chose not to be an ostrich with my head in the sand, but rather face the cold, hard truths of the reality of this planet. One day if my son ENLISTS in the military I will dissuade him saying “Son, you could die”. If he will not listen to me and recognizing the danger enlists anyway and dies I will have to know that he put himself there and be proud of his courage. A DRAFT is a totally different issue. Right now, WE HAVE NO DRAFT. No one makes you go to the military.

[Hawk]

It has already been proven that Saddam had NOTHING to do with Bin Laden, at all , ever ! There religious beliefs are far different. It is naive to believe otherwise .

Yes, 4000 enlisted and died BUT for going after the wrong GUY. That pisses me off. I can't believe you're OK with that.

The Gas you speak of (yes this is fact) was given to Saddam by President Ronald Reagan. Saddam used it on his own Kurds instead of how Reagan thought he would use it (against Iran as I remember it).

[songsmith]

It's been the consensus among intelligence-types that Saddam used ALL of the gas on the Kurds, in an attempt to show the world he was powerful. He was a bad, bad man, but no danger to the U.S.
And for the last time, there is, was, and never will be a link between Saddam and Osama. Saddam was basically non-religious, which made him a heretic in Osama's eyes. Osama felt that the first Iraq War drew the US onto Islamic holy ground in Saudi Arabia, which is exactly why he specifically hates the US, that, and the ending of American cash and weaponry support of the mujihadeen "Freedom Fighters" in Afghanistan.
They weren't buddies. They weren't acquainted. One had a beard and no mustache; the other had a mustache and no beard. One was born in a hole in the ground and became very rich and powerful; and one was born rich and powerful, and now lives in a hole in the ground.--->JMS

[Banned]

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DirtySanchez??? What's your problem?

Let's see. Oh maybe it because 95% of your posts are arguments and flame baiting. Ban Yourself.

Please don't add fire to the "Flame," not that theres anything wrong with it.
Wait...yes there is...

[slackin@dabass]

The earned income tax credit IS Bipartisan !

Yes it is and it's socialism and I think it's bullshit!

What do you guys think of a straight consumption tax? No income tax whatsoever, just tax goods and services (not food, basic clothing, etc). If you want to save - do it.
* People who have lots of money will still spend lots of money and in turn will pay lots of taxes.
* People who scrape to get by will pay less and get more - helping lower class families stay out of poverty
* The IRS could be drastically reduced because they'd only have to audit businesses that sell goods/services - saving tons of tax $$$

Just curious if either candidate has even considered this type of a tax system.

ron paul? i know he was against the I.R.S. anyway, and that would be the number one way to do away with it

[Merge]

Why doesn't anyone want to discuss this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4

[metalchurch]

Check this out!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifwBRRg1s5w

[CHICKSINGA]

It has already been proven that Saddam had NOTHING to do with Bin Laden, at all , ever ! There religious beliefs are far different. It is naive to believe otherwise .

Yes, 4000 enlisted and died BUT for going after the wrong GUY. That pisses me off. I can't believe you're OK with that.

Hawk - I am NEVER OK with ANYONE's death. Especially the people killed during 9/11. I do agree that Osama Bin Laden was the ring leader, but I don't discount the good that the war has done. If we leave these areas unchecked for nuclear weapons would that be a good idea? Iran is next and Putin is gearing up.

I have come to a conclusion though. I won't vote for either party. My vote won't matter - but at least when one or the other totally fucks this country up further I'll know I didn't buy in.

[Merge]

Check this out!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifwBRRg1s5w

That really doesn't surprise me, metalchurch, lol. I posted what I did because, for some reason, people like to point out the dumb things that Palin says. Yet no one has posted anything concerning Joe Biden. Biden told Katie Couric "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said look, here's what happened''

FDR wasn't President in 1929, he didn't take office until 1933. And I don't think television was readily available at the time.

Here's the link:

http://blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/ ... se-on.html

[metalchurch]

Check this out!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifwBRRg1s5w

That really doesn't surprise me, metalchurch, lol. I posted what I did because, for some reason, people like to point out the dumb things that Palin says. Yet no one has posted anything concerning Joe Biden. Biden told Katie Couric "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said look, here's what happened''

FDR wasn't President in 1929, he didn't take office until 1933. And I don't think television was readily available at the time.

Here's the link:

http://blogs.courant.com/capitol_watch/ ... se-on.html

Right! that's pretty good stuff. I can't believe that he actually believes the crap that comes out of his own mouth. He's one of those guys who talks to hear himself speak. Merge, most times the media and general public focus on one person as the underdog/scapegoat until something worse happens then they shift focus. But you are right, I haven't heard much about Biden. I don't really follow it too much though to be honest, and I mostly catch what's posted here, and bits here and there.