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Brinkmanship is directly related to the exact quote I gave you in the proper context. Spin all you want.
Hahahahaha. Bill, you didn't even use the whole sentence and replaced the comma with a period. Shame, shame, shame.

Are you suggesting that S&P has a brinkmanship scale that tells them when to downgrade somebody for being haughty? When to upgrade them for playing nice with others?

They use numbers, pure and simple--well maybe not simple. Read the statement. When they updated the data for their base model, projected GDP and revenues were lower and projected interest rates and spending were higher. When they crunched the numbers, the result suggested that in the out years, the US government might have trouble meeting its obligations.

I would take some issue with their assumption that the Bush tax cuts remain in place even after their scheduled expiration at the end of 2012. Since no congressional action is necessary for them to expire, S&P is implying that the government at that time or after the 2012 election will favor extending them again thru legislation. Do you really think this senate or president will approve that?

It sounds like they are predicting a republican takeover in 2012.
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We don't have a revenue problem, the government gathers more than enough taxes to pay for shit. They have a spending problem, they spend money like it's going out of style. The tea party is sick of it, wants to make necessary cuts, and get the country out of it's ass. The liberals want to spend spend spend and tax tax tax.....taxes aren't the issue.

It's like me taking out more and more debt to buy shit, even though I know I can't afford it, and blaming it on not having enough income to pay for it all. Backwards thinking my friends.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:We don't have a revenue problem, the government gathers more than enough taxes to pay for shit. They have a spending problem, they spend money like it's going out of style. The tea party is sick of it, wants to make necessary cuts, and get the country out of it's ass. The liberals want to spend spend spend and tax tax tax.....taxes aren't the issue.

It's like me taking out more and more debt to buy shit, even though I know I can't afford it, and blaming it on not having enough income to pay for it all. Backwards thinking my friends.
Backwards thinking, you must be talking about Hawk. One of the most vile of the human sins is jealousy, and Bill and all the dems in congress is prey upon jealousy. They constantly play the us vs. the rich card. The Kenyan is always wanting to tax the rich, and sheeple like Bill fall for it all the time. A whole political party based on the human sin of jealousy and envy. Class warfare instead of doing what is right for the country, spend only what we have and reduce the size of the bloated, illegal, unconstitutional government.

If libs like Bill think taxing will do the job, why aren't you sending all of your money into DC? Libs certainly believe that the govt knows how to spend my money better than I do.

Matt Damon tics me off. Says the rich should be ashamed not to pay more in taxes. If you feel that way, just send all of the next $20 million you make on your next movie. Practice what you preach, don't expect other people to pay for your beliefs.
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Hawk wrote:Brinkmanship is the practice of pushing dangerous events to the verge of disaster in order to achieve the most advantageous outcome.

S & P Clearly uses the term "Brinkmanship" as the biggest reason for the downgrade. That was the Republicans fault as the tea party held us hostage. Another problem S & P sighted was the threat of not raising the debt ceiling relative to "Brinkmanship". And congressmen willing to default on our debts for their political agenda.

Brinkmanship is directly related to the exact quote I gave you in the proper context. Spin all you want.

It is against the constitution (an amendment added after the Civil war and upheld in 1936) that says congress MUST pay all debts agreed to by any previous congress.

Rob, the super rich own 40% of the wealth and are hoarding trillions of dollars. If we go back to Reagan era taxes the increased revenue would be a tremendous help. Given that the super rich bought and paid for the majority of congressmen I don't understand your defense of them.
I only ask that they pay their fair share. Reagan understood revenue and raised taxes about five times.


I'm sorry you guys enjoy your hate so much that the truth is ignored by you. You (plural) are a sad bunch. Now go on and laugh at the truth while you love your own hatred. I'm sorry facts and truth get in the way in your little pissing corner here on Rockpage.
As soon as we don't agree with Bill's twisted spin, we become haters. :evil:
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undercoverjoe wrote:
Hawk wrote:Brinkmanship is the practice of pushing dangerous events to the verge of disaster in order to achieve the most advantageous outcome.

S & P Clearly uses the term "Brinkmanship" as the biggest reason for the downgrade. That was the Republicans fault as the tea party held us hostage. Another problem S & P sighted was the threat of not raising the debt ceiling relative to "Brinkmanship". And congressmen willing to default on our debts for their political agenda.

Brinkmanship is directly related to the exact quote I gave you in the proper context. Spin all you want.

It is against the constitution (an amendment added after the Civil war and upheld in 1936) that says congress MUST pay all debts agreed to by any previous congress.

Rob, the super rich own 40% of the wealth and are hoarding trillions of dollars. If we go back to Reagan era taxes the increased revenue would be a tremendous help. Given that the super rich bought and paid for the majority of congressmen I don't understand your defense of them.
I only ask that they pay their fair share. Reagan understood revenue and raised taxes about five times.


I'm sorry you guys enjoy your hate so much that the truth is ignored by you. You (plural) are a sad bunch. Now go on and laugh at the truth while you love your own hatred. I'm sorry facts and truth get in the way in your little pissing corner here on Rockpage.
As soon as we don't agree with Bill's twisted spin, we become haters. :evil:
Personally, I think there's a whole lot crybabying going on here. :lol: :roll:
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shredder138 wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:
Hawk wrote:Brinkmanship is the practice of pushing dangerous events to the verge of disaster in order to achieve the most advantageous outcome.

S & P Clearly uses the term "Brinkmanship" as the biggest reason for the downgrade. That was the Republicans fault as the tea party held us hostage. Another problem S & P sighted was the threat of not raising the debt ceiling relative to "Brinkmanship". And congressmen willing to default on our debts for their political agenda.

Brinkmanship is directly related to the exact quote I gave you in the proper context. Spin all you want.

It is against the constitution (an amendment added after the Civil war and upheld in 1936) that says congress MUST pay all debts agreed to by any previous congress.

Rob, the super rich own 40% of the wealth and are hoarding trillions of dollars. If we go back to Reagan era taxes the increased revenue would be a tremendous help. Given that the super rich bought and paid for the majority of congressmen I don't understand your defense of them.
I only ask that they pay their fair share. Reagan understood revenue and raised taxes about five times.


I'm sorry you guys enjoy your hate so much that the truth is ignored by you. You (plural) are a sad bunch. Now go on and laugh at the truth while you love your own hatred. I'm sorry facts and truth get in the way in your little pissing corner here on Rockpage.
As soon as we don't agree with Bill's twisted spin, we become haters. :evil:
Personally, I think there's a whole lot crybabying going on here. :lol: :roll:
Strange remark as the country is going into an economic depression. Do your realize the dollar bill in your wallet is worth about 20 cents these days? Or don't you care?
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Bill, you haven't shown me where you found that at. That is not what I heard.

Like any other dem you hate the tea party. You are afraid of the tea party. They aren't to blame for anything. It is the drunkin sailor spending that Obama and his crook friends in congress and the senate has done.

If it was Bush in Office, you would be blaming him for everything. In fact, you did blame him for everything. So spin it all you want. A majority of Americans know who the real blame is for this mess. And they will show it next november.

I am just surprised that Johnny hasn't put his two cents in. He hates the Tea Party with a passion. lol
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lonewolf wrote:
It sounds like they are predicting a republican takeover in 2012.
There is no need for a prediction. It will happen.
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undercoverjoe wrote:
shredder138 wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote: As soon as we don't agree with Bill's twisted spin, we become haters. :evil:
Personally, I think there's a whole lot crybabying going on here. :lol: :roll:
Strange remark as the country is going into an economic depression. Do your realize the dollar bill in your wallet is worth about 20 cents these days? Or don't you care?
Not gettin my panties in a bunch over something I have no control over. Not losin any sleep, blood pressure's not boilin over. I need surprisingly little to enjoy the life I'm living. And I laugh my ass off at you crybabies fuckin cryin all the time. Apparently, I'm much happier than you.

Why don't you guys change it up a little and bitch about the weather, ar anything else where what you think won't make a damn difference.

The earth is a pretty big rock, perhaps you could find a place more suitable for you and move there. :lol:
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Why do you even read these threads??????

Unless you are big time into the M side of S & M.
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undercoverjoe wrote:Why do you even read these threads??????
Entertainment, Joe, purely for entertainment.
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shredder138 wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Why do you even read these threads??????
Entertainment, Joe, purely for entertainment.
Then why are you complaining about the people providing you so much entertainment?
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undercoverjoe wrote:
shredder138 wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:Why do you even read these threads??????
Entertainment, Joe, purely for entertainment.
Then why are you complaining about the people providing you so much entertainment?
I wasn't aware that I was complaining. Just wanted to be part of the group and possibly offer a suggestion as to how you could find some peace and happiness. :wink: :lol:
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shredder138 wrote:
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shredder138 wrote: Entertainment, Joe, purely for entertainment.
Then why are you complaining about the people providing you so much entertainment?
I wasn't aware that I was complaining. Just wanted to be part of the group and possibly offer a suggestion as to how you could find some peace and happiness. :wink: :lol:

???by calling us crybabies????
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undercoverjoe wrote:
shredder138 wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote: Then why are you complaining about the people providing you so much entertainment?
I wasn't aware that I was complaining. Just wanted to be part of the group and possibly offer a suggestion as to how you could find some peace and happiness. :wink: :lol:

???by calling us crybabies????

Oh yeah, you're total crybabies. I just call it how I see it. :wink:
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shredder138 wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:
shredder138 wrote: I wasn't aware that I was complaining. Just wanted to be part of the group and possibly offer a suggestion as to how you could find some peace and happiness. :wink: :lol:

???by calling us crybabies????

Oh yeah, you're total crybabies. I just call it how I see it. :wink:

Dude, you're a strange one. :D
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Hahaha,come on Bill. We may be pissing here in our little corner of Rock Page,but there's a whole shit load of posts with you doing the same many times before.If Obama stays in office for another term,we'll all be playing the "blues" because we'll all have the experience of being broke and beaten. :roll: :roll:
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onegunguitar wrote:Hahaha,come on Bill. We may be pissing here in our little corner of Rock Page,but there's a whole shit load of posts with you doing the same many times before.If Obama stays in office for another term,we'll all be playing the "blues" because we'll all have the experience of being broke and beaten. :roll: :roll:
Not me.

Every time Obama screws something up, I identify where the money will be made and go make some! Its really hard keeping up with him though. I never saw anybody screw up more stuff more often. Not even Jimmy.
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lonewolf wrote:
onegunguitar wrote:Hahaha,come on Bill. We may be pissing here in our little corner of Rock Page,but there's a whole shit load of posts with you doing the same many times before.If Obama stays in office for another term,we'll all be playing the "blues" because we'll all have the experience of being broke and beaten. :roll: :roll:
Not me.

Every time Obama screws something up, I identify where the money will be made and go make some! Its really hard keeping up with him though. I never saw anybody screw up more stuff more often. Not even Jimmy.
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shredder138 wrote:
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???by calling us crybabies????

Oh yeah, you're total crybabies. I just call it how I see it. :wink:

Dude, you're a strange one. :D
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f.sciarrillo wrote:I am just surprised that Johnny hasn't put his two cents in. He hates the Tea Party with a passion. lol
I've been gone for months. I realized that dealing with Teapartiers is kinda like trying to convince a metally-challenged guy that he's mentally-challenged. If he understood what "mentally-challenged" was, he wouldn't be mentally-challenged.
Actually, the "Rockpage Braintrust" isn't kinda like like that, it IS that.

I'm also far less frustrated with it, knowing that the Tea Party's approval rating went from a high of a whopping 26% to a new low of just 18%. Nobody agrees with them, except them. Even Big Bad O has double that number.

I've been lurking, watching the view count in this thread... it roughly corresponds with the posts made... the only people following it are the people posting: the aforementioned Braintrust. Keep it, and keep Rockpage. Ron and JP are friends, and Rockpage used to do great things, but truthfully, a decade on one site is long enough. I'll still be watching the want-ads and PM-ing with the "normals," but I'm not going to try and break up the Bush-voter Circle-jerk any longer. Have at it, boys.
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Fuck Bush, he's the one that started all this. Fuck Obama for making it 1000 times worse.
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songsmith wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I am just surprised that Johnny hasn't put his two cents in. He hates the Tea Party with a passion. lol
I've been gone for months. I realized that dealing with Teapartiers is kinda like trying to convince a metally-challenged guy that he's mentally-challenged. If he understood what "mentally-challenged" was, he wouldn't be mentally-challenged.
Actually, the "Rockpage Braintrust" isn't kinda like like that, it IS that.

I'm also far less frustrated with it, knowing that the Tea Party's approval rating went from a high of a whopping 26% to a new low of just 18%. Nobody agrees with them, except them. Even Big Bad O has double that number.

I've been lurking, watching the view count in this thread... it roughly corresponds with the posts made... the only people following it are the people posting: the aforementioned Braintrust. Keep it, and keep Rockpage. Ron and JP are friends, and Rockpage used to do great things, but truthfully, a decade on one site is long enough. I'll still be watching the want-ads and PM-ing with the "normals," but I'm not going to try and break up the Bush-voter Circle-jerk any longer. Have at it, boys.
Braintrust? Mentally-Challenged? Good job there. Degrade everyone and try to make yourself look smarter, Kudos. don't answer the question just flame more hate. If you want to believe everything you hear from the white house and everything you see on your liberal tv shows, or hear on liberal radio shows, then that is your choice. We all know where your loyalties lie.
RobTheDrummer wrote:Fuck Bush, he's the one that started all this. Fuck Obama for making it 1000 times worse.
Bush may have had a hand in some of it, but he isn't to blame for all the starting. You have to remember that there was a Dem ran senate and house the last two years of his Presidency. So you can't put the blame solely on him.
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songsmith wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:I am just surprised that Johnny hasn't put his two cents in. He hates the Tea Party with a passion. lol
I've been gone for months. I realized that dealing with Teapartiers is kinda like trying to convince a metally-challenged guy that he's mentally-challenged. If he understood what "mentally-challenged" was, he wouldn't be mentally-challenged.
Actually, the "Rockpage Braintrust" isn't kinda like like that, it IS that.

I'm also far less frustrated with it, knowing that the Tea Party's approval rating went from a high of a whopping 26% to a new low of just 18%. Nobody agrees with them, except them. Even Big Bad O has double that number.

I've been lurking, watching the view count in this thread... it roughly corresponds with the posts made... the only people following it are the people posting: the aforementioned Braintrust. Keep it, and keep Rockpage. Ron and JP are friends, and Rockpage used to do great things, but truthfully, a decade on one site is long enough. I'll still be watching the want-ads and PM-ing with the "normals," but I'm not going to try and break up the Bush-voter Circle-jerk any longer. Have at it, boys.
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