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in response to bassist_25.....yes!!! Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the body is now gone to sea. wtf....people are gonna wanna see that he is dead. they have DNA, they could have got that years ago from a water bottle, whatever. Hell, they showed Hussein's hanging, why would an already dead body be a big deal? Also, for years you see Bin Laden's name spelled Osama Bin Laden, now all of the news reports are spelling it Usama Bin Laden, why? I know I would want proof. Like Hussein having others that looked very much like him, why couldn't Bin Laden?
Just throwing all of this out there.
Just throwing all of this out there.
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The irony is that I predict a large portion of the Deathers are going to be from the Christian crowd. Ya know, they want evidence that Bin Laden is dead, but no empirical evidence for a prime mover or intelligent creator is needed.
I believe in God too, but I'm just highlighting the irony.
Hey, call me Scully, but I'm just not ready to start production on the sequel to Loose Change here. If it comes out that Bin Laden is really alive and this was just a big Owellian conspiracy to placate us sheeple, then I'll eat crow. But like I said, just remember: Clinton + blow job = the whole world knowing.
I believe in God too, but I'm just highlighting the irony.
Hey, call me Scully, but I'm just not ready to start production on the sequel to Loose Change here. If it comes out that Bin Laden is really alive and this was just a big Owellian conspiracy to placate us sheeple, then I'll eat crow. But like I said, just remember: Clinton + blow job = the whole world knowing.

"He's the electric horseman, you better back off!" - old sKool making a reference to the culturally relevant 1979 film.
Too bad we were sympathetic to Muslims and burried the body within 24 hours. An embalmed corpse tour ala President Lincoln would have been quite an attraction. Osama's stiff in a town near you soon! They could have charged admission to pay down the national debt. Although, even that would not be enough proof for some.
As for DNA, does that even exist? I have never seen it with my own eyes. Even if I looked at it in a microscope, I'd think the teacher just put a small picture in there to trick me into thinking what they wanted me to think.
Everything is a lie. Oh no, where am I?
As for DNA, does that even exist? I have never seen it with my own eyes. Even if I looked at it in a microscope, I'd think the teacher just put a small picture in there to trick me into thinking what they wanted me to think.
Everything is a lie. Oh no, where am I?
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I don't care what anyone says, for such a high profile case, they should be releasing some pics. They do it all the time, so what is the difference with Osama? I'm not saying I believe that he is still alive, but I am saying that people need to see proof of his death. It's in our nature to want to see evidence of these things. Christian or not, left or right wing, educated or not, this is a HUGE claim and as critical thinking members of society, we need to see proof.
This is the man started the dominos tipping for our economy to fall apart and someone who took thousands of American lives. His work has led to 10 years of garbage for our country (Not all his fault though, much of our problems can be attributed to our endless wars in the Middle East...). Show us some pics now and put it to rest, make us wait and conspiracy theories abound. We are adults and we can handle the images, don't censor us!
This is the man started the dominos tipping for our economy to fall apart and someone who took thousands of American lives. His work has led to 10 years of garbage for our country (Not all his fault though, much of our problems can be attributed to our endless wars in the Middle East...). Show us some pics now and put it to rest, make us wait and conspiracy theories abound. We are adults and we can handle the images, don't censor us!
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I'm sure there will be pictures. They know they must release them. Remember Uday and Qusay? Maybe this will take the edge off:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3097089.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3097089.stm
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As a trained scientific researcher, I usually cry tears of blood at how badly the general public butchers empirical findings, talks out its ass when it comes to statistics, and has a piss poor understanding of general epistemological concepts. I would hesitate to paint society as critical thinking.hicksjd9 wrote:Christian or not, left or right wing, educated or not, this is a HUGE claim and as critical thinking members of society, we need to see proof.
But I dig what you're saying, JD. I'd like to pictures too, if only for closure. I'm just not ready to jump on board with this nascent deather thing that automatically assumes its a big conspiracy.
If anything's a giant political conspiracy, it was the royal wedding.

"He's the electric horseman, you better back off!" - old sKool making a reference to the culturally relevant 1979 film.
There is no conspiracy. There's no upside to calling Bin Laden dead and allowing him to live. The body was disposed of the way it was, for one reason: Islam requires burial in 24 hours, and we allowed him a Muslim burial because as Bush said, we are not at war with Islam. Like JP said, the entire Arab world is going through an awakening, in a way that has not happened in more than 600 years, and we're witnesses. The tide is literally turning right before our eyes, and terrorism doesn't benefit any involved party. What if the entire world watched me closely because Timothy McVeigh was a redneck like me?
The moon landing was real. Bin Laden and Al Zawah'ri perpetrated 9/11, not the gov't. Obama was born in Hawaii. Osama and Usama are the same guy, because some people spell it the way it's spelled, and some spell it the way it's pronounced. Burial at sea was so the terrorists couldn't erect a shrine or turn a funeral into a worldwide media event for Al Qaeda. That's all!
The moon landing was real. Bin Laden and Al Zawah'ri perpetrated 9/11, not the gov't. Obama was born in Hawaii. Osama and Usama are the same guy, because some people spell it the way it's spelled, and some spell it the way it's pronounced. Burial at sea was so the terrorists couldn't erect a shrine or turn a funeral into a worldwide media event for Al Qaeda. That's all!

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Its not a big deal either way. Conspiracy or not, everyone is gonna believe what they want. I just choose, for myself, to be someone who doesnt believe everything someone tells me.
Its real easy for me to say "Oh, theres 300 foot aliens that live on the moon."
Does that make it true? No way! Im sure with some bullshitting, I could convince some people that they do exist. Its harder to lie about this, because its such a crazy claim. If I were to lie about that something smaller, more people will believe it. Right???
Our government lies for all sorts of reasons. Theres so much PROOF that the us govt are up to no good in alot of ways. If you know someone is a liar and piece of shit, why would you believe ANYTHING they say? Or even like them at all? HELLO??
Thats just how I see it.
Its real easy for me to say "Oh, theres 300 foot aliens that live on the moon."
Does that make it true? No way! Im sure with some bullshitting, I could convince some people that they do exist. Its harder to lie about this, because its such a crazy claim. If I were to lie about that something smaller, more people will believe it. Right???
Our government lies for all sorts of reasons. Theres so much PROOF that the us govt are up to no good in alot of ways. If you know someone is a liar and piece of shit, why would you believe ANYTHING they say? Or even like them at all? HELLO??
Thats just how I see it.
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It's funny to me to see everyone going back and forth about whether or not Bin Laden is dead. The one question I have for all of you is, what difference does it make? 1) There are plenty of people lined up to take his place. 2) This only makes him a martyr and opens our country up to further revenge inspired attacks. 3) Whether or not he is alive or dead, the Middle East still has oil, so the U.S. will continue to invent reasons to be over there, and the list goes on...
Alive or dead, body or no body, I still woke up two days after his "alleged" death and gas is still too expensive - minimum wage is still the same - the price of everything is still rising and millions are still jobless, running out of unemployment, and losing their homes. I find myself wondering, what did this accomplish? The only thing this has accomplished in my opinion is a media frenzy capable of diverting our attention away from domestic issues and a revenge kill that satisfied the blood lust for September 11th.
Well congratulations America, l'm looking forward to see how many of you are still cheering when the retaliation comes, and it will come. Effectively, all we've been doing is playing tag - and right now, they're "it." Instead of depending on the Middle East for oil, and spending countless millions on "revenge" we should be investing all that military money into finding alternative energy and making it affordable for citizens; as well as, advancing our efforts in homeland security. It will never happen though, because all of the corrupt officials in office that have their dirty little hands in the oil cookie jar would lose money.
I think 2012 is coming sooner then everyone thinks, but it wont be a rogue meteor or freak natural disaster that takes us out, it will be at our own hand.
Alive or dead, body or no body, I still woke up two days after his "alleged" death and gas is still too expensive - minimum wage is still the same - the price of everything is still rising and millions are still jobless, running out of unemployment, and losing their homes. I find myself wondering, what did this accomplish? The only thing this has accomplished in my opinion is a media frenzy capable of diverting our attention away from domestic issues and a revenge kill that satisfied the blood lust for September 11th.
Well congratulations America, l'm looking forward to see how many of you are still cheering when the retaliation comes, and it will come. Effectively, all we've been doing is playing tag - and right now, they're "it." Instead of depending on the Middle East for oil, and spending countless millions on "revenge" we should be investing all that military money into finding alternative energy and making it affordable for citizens; as well as, advancing our efforts in homeland security. It will never happen though, because all of the corrupt officials in office that have their dirty little hands in the oil cookie jar would lose money.
I think 2012 is coming sooner then everyone thinks, but it wont be a rogue meteor or freak natural disaster that takes us out, it will be at our own hand.
They took DNA from his family members and they did an enhanced facial recognition immediately after his death.autumnsky wrote:Just curious, but does any one have any idea where they got the DNA to compare Bin Laden's with? Did they take a sample from a dump he took in some cave some where? Oh, that's right, they saw it on CSI Pakistan!
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I find it funny how the exact same people who, up to this point, have believed everything that the President has said choose this point to stop believing him. For once, I believe what the President is saying. If they wanted to use this for political gain, they could have waited until the next election to release this info. How about, and I know this is going to sound silly, we not politicize this and rejoice in the fact that this walking sack of shit got exactly what he deserved.
Pour me another one, cause I'll never find the silver lining in this cloud.
I don't believe everything. i do believe Laden is dead and the Navy Saels made it happen. Idiots are the ones who don't believe anything.KeithReynolds wrote:They can SAY they also took him to Disney World to teabag Mickey Mouse. Doesnt make it true. Does it??
Dont believe everything youre told....especially when theres huge agendas floating around.
Come on guys. Osama has been dead since 2007. Wouldn't Benazir Bhutto know more than anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiUjhsEAK4
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Bin Laden was pronounced dead a bunch of times! As far back as 2001.
Him dying of natural causes doesnt get america's patriotic hard-on going though.
THATS why he was pronounced dead AGAIN...but as a huge press release this time.
I dont believe anything the govt says. They have PROVEN time and time again that they are LIARS. In addition to that, They do horrible things to the people they say they are "protecting".
We only get ONE SIDE of every story, & Its spun in a way that makes people spew hatred for other human beings.
For some reason, the idiots in this country think their lives are worth more than people in another country. We can bomb people all day and kill thousands...but when SOMEONE ELSE does it..its "terrorism". Come the fuck on people!!!!!!!! Wake up!!
We live in the land of hatred & double-standards. No wonder every other country hates us so much.
Patriotism is a disease.
Him dying of natural causes doesnt get america's patriotic hard-on going though.
THATS why he was pronounced dead AGAIN...but as a huge press release this time.
I dont believe anything the govt says. They have PROVEN time and time again that they are LIARS. In addition to that, They do horrible things to the people they say they are "protecting".
We only get ONE SIDE of every story, & Its spun in a way that makes people spew hatred for other human beings.
For some reason, the idiots in this country think their lives are worth more than people in another country. We can bomb people all day and kill thousands...but when SOMEONE ELSE does it..its "terrorism". Come the fuck on people!!!!!!!! Wake up!!
We live in the land of hatred & double-standards. No wonder every other country hates us so much.
Patriotism is a disease.
Sorry Keith. This is the only version I could find on the net. It is very slow to load. Once it comes up, pause it and let it load. I love this song though. http://www.vbox7.com/play:b0e8d569
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