Does stupidity really skip a generation?

[songsmith]

[I see that you have been successfully diverted from the crux of the problem and are toeing the populist line with references to all the tangential past issues that get people going, but reveal no solutions.

No, you're confusing my post with Palin's Tea Party speech last night. Say howdy, mention God, veterans, the flag, and your kids, sprinkle heavily with "big government" and "traditional values' references that mean nothing, blame Obama, and collect your 100 grand. The only solution she offered to any issue? "We win, they lose." That was it, and she didn't explain that. I watched the lefty commentary afterward, and they were BEGGING the right to field her as their prez candidate in '12, a position I wholly support. Please... Run, Sarah, Run!! She also said that she wants the Tear Party Nation to be absorbed by the GOP, and got no standing ovation for that one at all. That would be that internal division the Tear Party suffers from... oh, everybody's angry over there, but at WAY different stuff. Excellent...
I haven't diverted from the crux of the problem at all. Talkshows hosts were told to compare the current admin to the FDR admin in much the same way they were told to compare it to Hitler's. Really, I can tie anyone to anyone, ala the Reagan/Obama similarities I've mentioned previously. It's standard propaganda stuff, reductio ad bad-guy-um. In fact, the phrase "socializing healthcare," last summer's catch-phrase, was not originated by right-wingers last year, it was coined by a NYC ad agency hired by the American Medical Association, a trade org, in 1947. The phrase played on Cold War fears being propagated by the righties, who always need fear of a villain that... isn't them.
So anyway, the crux of the problem is that rightwing media is wholly responsible for the "traditional values" of the wingnut base, but the wingnut base is not in charge, so all they can do is keeping tossing monkeywrenches into the progress machine. Believe me, many people notice that, but we don't need to wrap ourselves in the flag and bawl about it. We know that according to the Constitution of The United States Of America, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, God Bless Our Veterans and Old Glory: 59 votes is still a majority. --->JMS

[lonewolf]

Why did you quote me and then spew out that spiel? I don't support the federal government being in any of those kinds of issues. If the Tea Party gets caught up in that, I won't support that movement either. While Sarah Palin may be an interesting phenomenon, I have zero confidence that she would do anything but perpetuate the problem. If the Tea Party gets caught up in right wing politics as usual, they'll get no support from me.

BTW, the wingnuts are in power. It just happens to be the left wingnuts right now. Because their actions seem overtly more extreme, they generally don't last as long as the right wingnuts. They are, however, necessary to perpetuate the illusion that Congress, with a good mouthpiece in the White House, can fix everything.

The reality is that the only thing that Congress can "fix" is elections.

[Banned]

Why did you quote me and then spew out that spiel? I don't support the federal government being in any of those kinds of issues. If the Tea Party gets caught up in that, I won't support that movement either. While Sarah Palin may be an interesting phenomenon, I have zero confidence that she would do anything but perpetuate the problem. If the Tea Party gets caught up in right wing politics as usual, they'll get no support from me.

BTW, the wingnuts are in power. It just happens to be the left wingnuts right now. Because their actions seem overtly more extreme, they generally don't last as long as the right wingnuts. They are, however, necessary to perpetuate the illusion that Congress, with a good mouthpiece in the White House, can fix everything.

The reality is that the only thing that Congress can "fix" is elections.

He scores!

[songsmith]

No, he doesn't.
You were quoted because you intimated that I am missing the true problem, in your estimation. I then broached what I feel is the true problem: The extreme right is still angry at their loss of power (and they did, in fact, lose power) and the extreme right's media, owned largely by one giant multi-national corporation, keeps pandering to the extreme right wingnuts, riling their soft, mulleted heads with catch-phrases and soundbites. It's an easy enough thing to do, as the Tearies don't have the time or wherewithall to push the Channel-Up button on their remotes, off the Fox News Channel, preferring instead to find some other dim bulb to validate the thoughts they are told to think. Sarah Palin is a whole lot more to them than "an interesting phenomenon," she embodies the movement, or else they wouldn't have shelled out the $549 to see her do things like refer to Big Bad's teleprompter, THEN READ THE NOTES SCRIBBLED ON HER HAND. They could give a tinker's damn about Big Government, they only know what O' Reilly tells them. If he says Big Govt's a problem, then it must be, and off they go with a fresh windmill to tilt at.
As for Congress, yes, the lefties are in power. That, my friend, is how the system works. That's how it worked in 2000, when the wingmonkeys elected a third generation politician to president. If politics was okay then it HAS to be okay now. That's how it was in 2003, when wingleberries sent 4500 kids to an unjust war, from which they never returned. If politics was okay then, it has to be okay now. That's how it was in 2008, when wingtards mounted the dirtiest (albeit laughingly unsuccessful) smear campaign in US election history. If politics was okay then...
All along, the rightwing media was there. "After Clinton, we need a conservative like George W. Bush in the White House." "Saddam is working with Al Qaeda, and if you oppose the Iraq invasion, you are Un-American." "Barack Obama has ties to terrorist Bill Ayers." Wrong, wrong, WRONG. Always.
The Tear Party Nation is nothing more than a fanclub for Fox News and radio talkshow hosts, and has all the social relevance and weight of naptime at a preschool (though there is a lot more crying and poopy diapers.) --->JMS

[Charltor]

I'd like to write something in the palm of her hand with my magic marker.

[witchhunt]

Speaking of inbred girlfriends.

[lonewolf]

No, he doesn't.
You were quoted because you intimated that I am missing the true problem, in your estimation. I then broached what I feel is the true problem: The extreme right is still angry at their loss of power (and they did, in fact, lose power) and the extreme right's media, owned largely by one giant multi-national corporation, keeps pandering to the extreme right wingnuts, riling their soft, mulleted heads with catch-phrases and soundbites. --->JMS

Apparently, we are on different planes of existence that converge on Rockpage. Let me get this straight:

The true problem with the federal government today is the neocons' anger at losing power and their attempt to get it back?

You said what?

I'd love to see a block diagram of the logic process that led to that conclusion--or maybe it was a chemical formula. Perhaps lysergic acid di-ethylamide tartrate 25?

[Merge]

I'm still trying to figure out why the media is bashing Palin for writing something on her hand, when Obama took a tele-prompter to an elementary school and can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. Here's a few links:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/addressi ... leprompter

http://feedyouradhd.com/obama-uses-tele ... -audience/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kfast.html

[songsmith]

No, he doesn't.
You were quoted because you intimated that I am missing the true problem, in your estimation. I then broached what I feel is the true problem: The extreme right is still angry at their loss of power (and they did, in fact, lose power) and the extreme right's media, owned largely by one giant multi-national corporation, keeps pandering to the extreme right wingnuts, riling their soft, mulleted heads with catch-phrases and soundbites. --->JMS

Apparently, we are on different planes of existence that converge on Rockpage. Let me get this straight:

The true problem with the federal government today is the neocons' anger at losing power and their attempt to get it back?


No, the true problem with government today is that you don't like it. It was just a few years ago that you were the one defending THAT OLD administration's policies, and we all know how that turned out. Government was pretty goddamn good then, it had to be, because the future Tear Partiers would allow no criticism of it. There was no populist movement against the govt's lack of transparency, or sudden increase in size after 9/11, or no-bid contracts, or a trillion-dollar-plus war debt. The problem with government today is that you don't like it, and you (the Tea Partier) don't like it because you were told not to.
I don't know how to be any plainer.
And I've never touched anything stronger than BC Hydro White Witch. Danker than Ann Coulter's panty hamper. --->JMS
You said what?

I'd love to see a block diagram of the logic process that led to that conclusion--or maybe it was a chemical formula. Perhaps lysergic acid di-ethylamide tartrate 25?

[witchhunt]

I'm still trying to figure out why the media is bashing Palin for writing something on her hand, when Obama took a tele-prompter to an elementary school and can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. Here's a few links:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/addressi ... leprompter

http://feedyouradhd.com/obama-uses-tele ... -audience/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kfast.html

You've just shown why.

[Banned]

No, he doesn't.
You were quoted because you intimated that I am missing the true problem, in your estimation. I then broached what I feel is the true problem: The extreme right is still angry at their loss of power (and they did, in fact, lose power) and the extreme right's media, owned largely by one giant multi-national corporation, keeps pandering to the extreme right wingnuts, riling their soft, mulleted heads with catch-phrases and soundbites. --->JMS

Apparently, we are on different planes of existence that converge on Rockpage. Let me get this straight:

The true problem with the federal government today is the neocons' anger at losing power and their attempt to get it back?

You said what?

I'd love to see a block diagram of the logic process that led to that conclusion--or maybe it was a chemical formula. Perhaps lysergic acid di-ethylamide tartrate 25?

You have nerve, asking for logic in a post from Songsmith.

[Charltor]

Speaking of inbred girlfriends.

haha!!!!

[Hawk]

Which is worse relative to the deficit?

Cut taxes, increase spending.

Don't cut taxes, increase spending.

Increase taxes and increase spending.

Sounds incredibly stupid when the obvious answer is cut spending.

Most administrations (regardless of what they said they would do) went with one of those three.

Which of the three choices increases the deficit the most. Right, cutting taxes increases the deficit too, unless spending is cut. So unless a candidate actually lists what he'll cut from the budget, what programs he will remove, he's blowing smoke.

Anyone who says "cut taxes" and gets applause is fooling the people who applaud. If they list what they'll cut, then you'll have honesty.

[Hawk]

Palin and the palm notes.

Palin read her speech. No problem with that.

After the speech she was ask questions by the man who sponsored the speech. She was given the questions ahead of time so she could prepare her answers. THAT is when she wrote three "applause getters" on her palm. Even though she was prepped with the questions she couldn't trust herself to remember what to say. She actually peeked at her palm during a prepared question and answer session.

What would have happened if she had not been given the questions before hand ? "Golly gee, I read all kinda stuff, whatever is in front of me".

I'll leave to you. What does that tell you about her ?

[Hawk]

On transparency:

Obama wants to have an open discussion on C Span with the Republicans about the health care issues. Word is, most of the Republicans are making excuses and backing out. Scheduled date: February 25th. See who shows up.

[witchhunt]

She is certainly entertaining, to say the least.

[Merge]

I'm still trying to figure out why the media is bashing Palin for writing something on her hand, when Obama took a tele-prompter to an elementary school and can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. Here's a few links:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/addressi ... leprompter

http://feedyouradhd.com/obama-uses-tele ... -audience/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kfast.html

You've just shown why.

I've heard all kinds of things about this thing with Palin, yet I only heard one person mention these things about Obama. If Bush had mispronounced the word "Corpsman", the media would have ripped him apart. I'm just pointing out the obvious double standard in the media. If the President mispronounces something, he "mis-spoke". If Bush or Palin do it, they're idiots. Everyone uses notes and things like that, I don't see a problem with it. I don't see an issue with using a teleprompter, though taking one to an elementary school is a bit much.

[witchhunt]

I'm still trying to figure out why the media is bashing Palin for writing something on her hand, when Obama took a tele-prompter to an elementary school and can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. Here's a few links:

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/addressi ... leprompter

http://feedyouradhd.com/obama-uses-tele ... -audience/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... kfast.html

You've just shown why.

I've heard all kinds of things about this thing with Palin, yet I only heard one person mention these things about Obama. If Bush had mispronounced the word "Corpsman", the media would have ripped him apart. I'm just pointing out the obvious double standard in the media. If the President mispronounces something, he "mis-spoke". If Bush or Palin do it, they're idiots. Everyone uses notes and things like that, I don't see a problem with it. I don't see an issue with using a teleprompter, though taking one to an elementary school is a bit much.

Look Merge, I'm not trying to start a big argument with you but you gotta admit, Palin is certainly not the sharpest knife in the drawer and Bush had a real problem with the English language. I'm sure Obama will have his fair share of slip-ups till his terms over. As far as fairness in the media, you gave three examples of Obama bashing. If someone's going to be in the spotlight, they'll have to accept that. I'm done.

[PStl]

She is certainly entertaining, to say the least.

her hair was really cute!

[Merge]

I'm not going to fight with you either, witchhunt. I agree that Bush used to butcher the English language, but I don't think Bush and Palin are all that stupid. The mainstream media hated Bush because he didn't respond to their insults, and I don't think Palin cares what the media thinks. It's a rare occasion that the mainstream media criticizes our current President. With Bush, he brought most of it on himself. It was hard not to laugh when he spoke sometimes.

[PStl]

What was really written on Robert Gibbs hand...

(sorry, I just thought that it was funny!)

[f.sciarrillo]

What was really written on Robert Gibbs hand...

(sorry, I just thought that it was funny!)

lol .. That is good ...

And I think Bush was smarter than people think he was. He knew what the media thought of him and I don't think he cared. Palin is the same way.

[lonewolf]

And I think Bush was smarter than people think he was. He knew what the media thought of him and I don't think he cared. Palin is the same way.

ROFLMAO

[f.sciarrillo]

And I think Bush was smarter than people think he was. He knew what the media thought of him and I don't think he cared. Palin is the same way.

ROFLMAO

HAHAHA

[songsmith]

And I think Bush was smarter than people think he was. He knew what the media thought of him and I don't think he cared. Palin is the same way.

ROFLMAO

NOPE!--->JMS