Who will be the Republican nominee in 2012 ?

[f.sciarrillo]

Name the Qualifications that BO had or has? He is in fact showing those qualifications he supposedly has now - Which is NONE ...

Yes, because that's relevant to the argument. In the words of Wayne and Garth: Not!

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Only your second post ! I love this guy !

He also edited the post about three times since he made it ...

[Rizzo]

He also edited the post about three times since he made it ...

Yes, because I thought linking to some pages pointing out the fallacy in your argument would be good.

[beatlemaniac]

Hi , I am new to rock page but you all know I 've been around a long time. I love this country and politics. I consider my self an independant and willing to listen to all sides of all subjects. I have written 2 books that you can find on my web site www.ababyboomerslookback.com. they are all about growing up around here . My unqualified answer at this time is Tim Pawlety gov of Minnisota. I could go on for ever why I think this but I won,t. Great question though and I am enjoying looking at all the bands pages , posts etc jerry c

[f.sciarrillo]

BO's world appology tour continues. Yup - It isn't long till he bows to Bin Laden ..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/b ... 22P5BD8f6I

[Hawk]

BO's world appology tour continues. Yup - It isn't long till he bows to Bin Laden ..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/b ... 22P5BD8f6I

Someone needs to apologise for Bush and his henchmen.

EDIT:
BTW, since this is your normal rhetoric parroting, could you tell us exactly what his apologise are ? Any documentation to back up your reciting of the Beck mantra ?

EDIT again. Strawman, that's funny

[f.sciarrillo]

BO's world appology tour continues. Yup - It isn't long till he bows to Bin Laden ..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/b ... 22P5BD8f6I

Someone needs to apologise for Bush and his henchmen.

EDIT:
BTW, since this is your normal rhetoric parroting, could you tell us exactly what his apologise are ? Any documentation to back up your reciting of the Beck mantra ?

EDIT again. Strawman, that's funny

Nagasaki, Hiroshima, all those innocent suicide bombers who killed themselves during world war II, and of course for not giving them ability to completely destroy Pearl Harbor ..

[Hawk]

BO's world appology tour continues. Yup - It isn't long till he bows to Bin Laden ..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/b ... 22P5BD8f6I

Someone needs to apologise for Bush and his henchmen.

EDIT:
BTW, since this is your normal rhetoric parroting, could you tell us exactly what his apologise are ? Any documentation to back up your reciting of the Beck mantra ?

EDIT again. Strawman, that's funny

Nagasaki, Hiroshima, all those innocent suicide bombers who killed themselves during world war II, and of course for not giving them ability to completely destroy Pearl Harbor ..

Show me where he said that, ahsoo, you make things up again...

[f.sciarrillo]

Someone needs to apologise for Bush and his henchmen.

EDIT:
BTW, since this is your normal rhetoric parroting, could you tell us exactly what his apologise are ? Any documentation to back up your reciting of the Beck mantra ?

EDIT again. Strawman, that's funny

Nagasaki, Hiroshima, all those innocent suicide bombers who killed themselves during world war II, and of course for not giving them ability to completely destroy Pearl Harbor ..

Show me where he said that, ahsoo, you make things up again...

Show were he didn't

[Hawk]

Nagasaki, Hiroshima, all those innocent suicide bombers who killed themselves during world war II, and of course for not giving them ability to completely destroy Pearl Harbor ..

Show me where he said that, ahsoo, you make things up again...

Show were he didn't

Typical Strawman answer. You need to memorize everything Besk says, not just the soundbites.

[f.sciarrillo]

Show me where he said that, ahsoo, you make things up again...

Show were he didn't

Typical Strawman answer. You need to memorize everything Besk says, not just the soundbites.

I haven't watched Beck in weeks ... I have been reading the new york post on line and new york times on line though .. as well as some other media. So your strawman rant has no weight on things. Besides it doesn't matter what source I chose to show relevance as you will not believe any of them anyhow. Your liberal brain is too gone for anything that is real or coherent ..

By the way, I always like the tin man better

[Hawk]

BO's world appology tour continues. Yup - It isn't long till he bows to Bin Laden ..

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/b ... 22P5BD8f6I

Someone needs to apologise for Bush and his henchmen.

EDIT:
BTW, since this is your normal rhetoric parroting, could you tell us exactly what his apologise are ? Any documentation to back up your reciting of the Beck mantra ?

EDIT again. Strawman, that's funny

Nagasaki, Hiroshima, all those innocent suicide bombers who killed themselves during world war II, and of course for not giving them ability to completely destroy Pearl Harbor ..

Yeah... Five laughs for you. You got this from the NY Post and the NY Times.

How can I converse with someone who goes in circles that never connect ? I can't.

Has Beck hypnotised you ? I mean, there has to be some explanation for your...ah...lack of ability to think before you type.

[Rizzo]

Show me where he said that, ahsoo, you make things up again...

Show were he didn't

Typical Strawman answer. You need to memorize everything Besk says, not just the soundbites.

Actually Hawk that is a negative proof fallacy (sometimes called argumentum ad ignorantiam) in which f.sciarrillo attempted to propose a situation that is not falsifiable, therefore trying to prove that the alternative is therefore true. He also failed to take into account that the burden of proof rests on the person who makes the claim, which really isn't a fallacy but is just plain shitty argumentation.

[f.sciarrillo]

Show were he didn't

Typical Strawman answer. You need to memorize everything Besk says, not just the soundbites.

Actually Hawk that is a negative proof fallacy (sometimes called argumentum ad ignorantiam) in which f.sciarrillo attempted to propose a situation that is not falsifiable, therefore trying to prove that the alternative is therefore true. He also failed to take into account that the burden of proof rests on the person who makes the claim, which really isn't a fallacy but is just plain shitty argumentation.

Nothing is feasible because everyone has their own thought process and way of interpreting things ...

[beatlemaniac]

funny how a need for change can happen so quickly. we thought we were getting change but very little has changed if not gotten worse as far as politics and politicians are concerned in this country. sorry i mis- spelled Tim pawlenty the next gop candidate. jerry the beatlemaniac , independent, form the white shadow band

[f.sciarrillo]

funny how a need for change can happen so quickly. we thought we were getting change but very little has changed if not gotten worse as far as politics and politicians are concerned in this country. sorry i mis- spelled Tim pawlenty the next gop candidate. jerry the beatlemaniac , independent, form the white shadow band

I like to refer to myself as a independent conservative ... And change is going to take a while, but the way it is going will never see the light of day ..

[whitedevilone]

Hi , I am new to rock page but you all know I 've been around a long time. I love this country and politics. I consider my self an independant and willing to listen to all sides of all subjects. I have written 2 books that you can find on my web site www.ababyboomerslookback.com. they are all about growing up around here . My unqualified answer at this time is Tim Pawlety gov of Minnisota. I could go on for ever why I think this but I won,t. Great question though and I am enjoying looking at all the bands pages , posts etc jerry c

Welcome.

[songsmith]

Name the Qualifications that BO had or has? He is in fact showing those qualifications he supposedly has now - Which is NONE ...

Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
Undergraduate, 1981-1983

Columbia University
B.A. Political Science
Major International Relations Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament

Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
Elected President, Harvard Law Review
1983-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project

1993-2004 Senior Lecturer in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School

Illinois Senator 1996-2004

Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee

United States Senator 2004-2008

Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs

Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions

Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

Extensive lifelong travel overseas

Extensive experience with helping America's poor

Oh, and by the next election, Obama will have been the most powerful man in the free world for 4 years.

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Sarah Palin took 6 years and 5 colleges to receive a BS in Journalism. After only one semester in 1982 at Hawaii Pacific University in the business administration program, she transferred to North Idaho College as a general studies major for two semesters in 1983.
From there she transferred to the University of Idaho, and majored in journalism from fall 1984 to spring 1985. She then returned to Alaska’s Matanuska-Susitna College in fall 1985, but then returned to Idaho, in 1986 and 1987, when she graduated.
Interestingly, she never worked for any college newspaper or other agency.

City Council, Wasilla AK (pop. less than 9000, roughly the size of Lock Haven, PA)

Mayor Wasilla AK

Failed bid for AK Lieut. Governor

Alaska Governor less than 1 term -- Resigned in order to defend herself from misuse of power and other charges; as well as release (notice I didn't say 'write') a book, and do lucrative speaking engagements. Alaska also has fewer than 650,000 residents, roughly the same as El Paso, TX.

Could not recall any books or magazines she has read, much less been published in

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So, there you have it. fsciarillo's Straw-Man argument has succumbed to the bayonet.
Please, conservatives, nominate Sarah Palin at the next Republican Convention. It will practically guarantee Obama's re-election. She's Dan Quayle with a Gucci handbag. --->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Name the Qualifications that BO had or has? He is in fact showing those qualifications he supposedly has now - Which is NONE ...

Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA
Undergraduate, 1981-1983

Columbia University
B.A. Political Science
Major International Relations Thesis topic: Soviet nuclear disarmament

Harvard Law School
J.D. magna cum laude 1988-1991
Elected President, Harvard Law Review
1983-1988 Director of the Developing Communities Project

1993-2004 Senior Lecturer in Constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School

Illinois Senator 1996-2004

Chairman, Health and Human Services Committee

United States Senator 2004-2008

Member, Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on European Affairs

Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions

Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

Extensive lifelong travel overseas

Extensive experience with helping America's poor

Oh, and by the next election, Obama will have been the most powerful man in the free world for 4 years.

**********************************************************

Sarah Palin took 6 years and 5 colleges to receive a BS in Journalism. After only one semester in 1982 at Hawaii Pacific University in the business administration program, she transferred to North Idaho College as a general studies major for two semesters in 1983.
From there she transferred to the University of Idaho, and majored in journalism from fall 1984 to spring 1985. She then returned to Alaska’s Matanuska-Susitna College in fall 1985, but then returned to Idaho, in 1986 and 1987, when she graduated.
Interestingly, she never worked for any college newspaper or other agency.

City Council, Wasilla AK (pop. less than 9000, roughly the size of Lock Haven, PA)

Mayor Wasilla AK

Failed bid for AK Lieut. Governor

Alaska Governor less than 1 term -- Resigned in order to defend herself from misuse of power and other charges; as well as release (notice I didn't say 'write') a book, and do lucrative speaking engagements. Alaska also has fewer than 650,000 residents, roughly the same as El Paso, TX.

Could not recall any books or magazines she has read, much less been published in

***********************************************************

So, there you have it. fsciarillo's Straw-Man argument has succumbed to the bayonet.
Please, conservatives, nominate Sarah Palin at the next Republican Convention. It will practically guarantee Obama's re-election. She's Dan Quayle with a Gucci handbag. --->JMS

Book learning has nothing to do with job experience. He has done nothing to show that he knows what he is doing before the Presidency or during the Presidency. Palin has a governorship - Job experience and her track record as a governor shows that she can do the job.

So basically you are making the strawman comment

That is o.k - You BO worshipers go ahead and kneel to your messiah, next year it all comes starts falling down for him ...

[songsmith]

Palin has a governorship - Job experience and her track record as a governor shows that she can do the job.

So bring it. What experience, other than quitting, did Caribou Barbie gain as governor of Alaska?
She did get Big Oil to cut everybody a thousand-dollar check in exchange for carving up the last American wilderness and all, so she has business experience. She can see Russia from her house, so there's foreign policy acumen. She allowed her 16-yr-old daughter's boyfriend to move in and impregnate said daughter, so she's experienced in family dynamics and the needs of youth.
Like I said, by all means: Try to elect her. Nominate this woman for Presidential candidate. I truly, truly want you to, no kidding. Watch the ensuing madness bring the con vs. lib battle to a head, as Tear-Partiers gnash their teeth in writhing agony when PALIN LOSES BY A LANDSLIDE.
Epic, man. I can hardly wait. Maybe I won't have to work so hard at keeping Rockpage from turning into Foxpage.--->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

Palin has a governorship - Job experience and her track record as a governor shows that she can do the job.

So bring it. What experience, other than quitting, did Caribou Barbie gain as governor of Alaska?
She did get Big Oil to cut everybody a thousand-dollar check in exchange for carving up the last American wilderness and all, so she has business experience. She can see Russia from her house, so there's foreign policy acumen. She allowed her 16-yr-old daughter's boyfriend to move in and impregnate said daughter, so she's experienced in family dynamics and the needs of youth.
Like I said, by all means: Try to elect her. Nominate this woman for Presidential candidate. I truly, truly want you to, no kidding. Watch the ensuing madness bring the con vs. lib battle to a head, as Tear-Partiers gnash their teeth in writhing agony when PALIN LOSES BY A LANDSLIDE.
Epic, man. I can hardly wait. Maybe I won't have to work so hard at keeping Rockpage from turning into Foxpage.--->JMS

Man dude, you are warped ...

http://sharprightturn.wordpress.com/200 ... -shall-we/

I forgot to mention that Obama does have experience that Palin does not. Like his association with radicals and US hating hypocrites. Plus he also has experience helping those who support him as apposed to those who don't, ie; wall street and the banks that he used trillions of our tax dollars to bail out. Yup, it is so nice to know that my grand kids are going to be in debt to china because of this idiot .. He is such a great President, surely one of the best? I would say that him and Jimmy Carter are right up there. Only thing is that they are arguing over who is better at bankrupting this country and appoligizing to the countries who hate us.

[Rizzo]

Nothing is feasible because everyone has their own thought process and way of interpreting things ...

and this my friends is what's known as a non sequitur.

[lonewolf]

Oh, and by the next election, Obama will have been the most powerful man in the free world for 4 years.

Sorry Johnny. Everybody knows that Nancy Pelosi is the most powerful man in the free world.

[f.sciarrillo]

Oh, and by the next election, Obama will have been the most powerful man in the free world for 4 years.

Sorry Johnny. Everybody knows that Nancy Pelosi is the most powerful man in the free world.

And she looks more like a man everyday ...

[songsmith]

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Man dude, you are warped ...

http://sharprightturn.wordpress.com/200 ... -shall-we/

Dude man, that was a wingnut blog. Like I said, buddy: PLEASE support Palin for President '12. I might even register Republican so I can vote for her in the primary. It'll be awesome.--->JMS

[f.sciarrillo]

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Man dude, you are warped ...

http://sharprightturn.wordpress.com/200 ... -shall-we/

Dude man, that was a wingnut blog. Like I said, buddy: PLEASE support Palin for President '12. I might even register Republican so I can vote for her in the primary. It'll be awesome.--->JMS

Find a leftwingnut blog to tell you the opposite? Hell, just read the new york times and watch david letterman and you will get that ...