Horsepower heads?

[JackANSI]

Are there any on here?

[slackin@dabass]

a few... but this one likes big block engines with blowers and headers and chrome and ported and pollished cylinder heads and bored out and all sortsa stuff... i think i read something from you that was talking about turbos... maybe put dual turbos on a caddy 500 bored .060 over and run dual 3 inchers with some high flow heads and a high rise intake with dual 4 barrels....


delicious

[metalchurch]

I'm love old Fords, but I'm not much into the new technology.
I own a 1972 Grabber Maverick it has a
1970 351 Cleveland 4v
bored .10 over to clean up the walls
Edelbrock Torker Intake
Holley 750
Competion Cams 280H cam
Crane roller rockers
Tubular Automotive Headers (custom for a Cleveland/Maverick swap)
a close ratio toploader 4 speed from a 1970 Mach 1 (that has a 2.32:1 first gear)
Lakewood Bell housing
Hurst V-gate inline shifter w/ reverse lockout.
9inch Ford rear from a 1957 Fairlane (same width as a Maverick, meaning I didnt have to cut it)
3:91 Detroit locker, with an "N" case carrier ("N" cases were made of nodular iron and were used primarily on Big Block 4 speed Fords)
Too much more to mention really.

I have photo's but none are digital, and I'm gonna try to scan them to post.
It's still a work in progress, so don't laugh at the Grey Primer!!!
I call it "Grabber Grey" LOL

[JackANSI]

something like this: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/10-s ... _42385.htm

I've always wanted an Econoline with a twin-turbo 460.. I think that comes from watching the A-Team too much when I was a kid. (yes I know the A-Team van wasn't a ford, but I like the way the fords look)

I like the simplicity of carbs, but not having to turn a wrench to tune is really getting into my blood.

[metalchurch]

Fords rule!

Although I have to admit that the new Dodge Challenger is pretty damn sweet looking!

[JackANSI]

The Challenger is built on the LX chassis, same as the 300, charger, and magnum.

I was drooling over a Black Charger R/T AWD after a test drive a couple years ago.. Lots of power and it was all right there quick.

I can't wait to pick a RWD one up in the used police car market in 4 to 7 years.

The Challenger is a sweet looking car from the front, but I saw one outside the Verizon store in state college about 3 weeks ago. The ass end looks a tad "unfinished" to me.

I'm really diggin the 2010 Camaro if it can perform like the old one.

[metalchurch]

The Challenger is built on the LX chassis, same as the 300, charger, and magnum.

I was drooling over a Black Charger R/T AWD after a test drive a couple years ago.. Lots of power and it was all right there quick.

I can't wait to pick a RWD one up in the used police car market in 4 to 7 years.

The Challenger is a sweet looking car from the front, but I saw one outside the Verizon store in state college about 3 weeks ago. The ass end looks a tad "unfinished" to me.

I'm really diggin the 2010 Camaro if it can perform like the old one.

I agree about the ass end of the Challenger, I saw one at Autozone in Altoona last week, and I thought the same thing.
The front end design is spot on! Love the R/T hood also!

There's some youtube footage of dodge'e test car at the track. It was running 11's, of course it wasnt stock. Actually they were running a Dana 60 in the rear if that.

The new Camaro's I think are nice, but I get the opposite impression of that compared to the Challenger. I dont like the Grille in that.
Maybe it's the headlights?
I think that a '68 RS style hidden headlight grille design would have looked cleaner.

It's funny because the horsepower wars are back in fashion, only this time around they are more enviro friendly and they are much safer in the case of an accident.

+1 on those Police Cars!
I'd love to have an '86 Mustang LX 5.0 5 speed Florida Pursuit vehicle, but they are all thrashed by now.

[Mikey Wax]

I'm currently restoring a '70 Chevelle. It has a 406 stroker (Small Block Chevy) and a muncie 4-speed. The engine in it used to be in our drag car. We were running a 75 Camaro in the low 12's with only 3.73's in the rear end. Pretty respectable numbers considering we had less than $3K in the car. Including buying the car.

We just bought a front engine dragster that we'll be hoping to get started on soon. It's going to need a lot of work to be track worthy. Chevy powered of course.

I also own a 99 s10 xtreme. It's lowered and whatnot. Not all that fast, but a small block swap out is in the works when my Chevelle gets done.

I just got rid of a '67 Buick Electra 225 this summer.

Never really got into the whole "tuner scene". I have to admit, it's hard to be a 28 year old gear head who's not into tuners. It seems like all of my "car buddies" are a bunch of old dudes.

[Mikey Wax]

There's some youtube footage of dodge'e test car at the track. It was running 11's, of course it wasnt stock. Actually they were running a Dana 60 in the rear if that..

You can actually order some hopped up version of the Challenger from the factory. It's NOT street legal though. I think it runs 10's. I think it's kinda cool that they're offering it to the public, eventhough 3/4 of the public will never be able to afford it!!!!!

[Ron]

You can actually order some hopped up version of the Challenger from the factory. It's NOT street legal though. I think it runs 10's. I think it's kinda cool that they're offering it to the public, eventhough 3/4 of the public will never be able to afford it!!!!!

Or drive it...

[metalchurch]

Mikey,
Are you using a 400 crank in that or is it an offset ground custom stroker kit?

Possibly a small block 400 bored .30 over?

Sounds like a nice project bro! I'm a ford guy till death, but I love all the old musclecars respectively.

edit: nevermind I didnt see the fact that you said it was a stroker.

[metalchurch]

You can actually order some hopped up version of the Challenger from the factory. It's NOT street legal though. I think it runs 10's. I think it's kinda cool that they're offering it to the public, eventhough 3/4 of the public will never be able to afford it!!!!!

Or drive it...

Mikey, that might actually be the very car thats on youtube, or a version of it atleast.

Ron, aint that the truth brother!!

[Mikey Wax]

It's a 400 block .030 over with 5.7 rods out of a 307 on a 400 crank.


Custom ground cranks are WAY outta my price range!!!!

[metalchurch]

It's a 400 block .030 over (makes it a 406) with 5.7 rods out of a 307 (makes is a stroker)

Ok yeah I get what you mean now. I didnt realize that you had to use 5.7 rods.
Did you use stock rods, "pink" rods, or aftermarket? I hear that the cranks in the 400's are soft and break easy if under alot of stress. Especially with high horsepower and a high compression motor, and a 4 speed.

Do you have the wide or close ratio Muncie?
10 or 12 bolt rear?

[Mikey Wax]

It's a 400 block .030 over (makes it a 406) with 5.7 rods out of a 307 (makes is a stroker)

Ok yeah I get what you mean now. I didnt realize that you had to use 5.7 rods.
Did you use stock rods, "pink" rods, or aftermarket? I hear that the cranks in the 400's are soft and break easy if under alot of stress. Especially with high horsepower and a high compression motor, and a 4 speed.

Do you have the wide or close ratio Muncie?
10 or 12 bolt rear?

Just regular ol' rods out of a 307. We didn't have a TON of passes on the motor, but it held up with no problems at all. I don't plan on beating the shit out of it in my Chevelle (bullshit). The thing I always heard about 400's was that the block was weak. Especially the 4 bolt main blocks. The Chevelle has a 10 bolt right now with airplane gears in it. I have a 12 bolt, i just need a posi carrier and steeper gears.

I also have a 396 for the car that I was originally going to do for it before the drag motor became available. Money permitting that's the one that'll be in it when it's on the road. I love building motors.

[metalchurch]

I might be able to hook you up with a carrier atleast, maybe gears also.
I'll have to call my brother about it. He has a buddy who's into Chevy's like you, and that guy is real cool. the prices will be within reason.
PM me for more details.

[Josevo]

I have a 70' chevelle SS 396. Its bored .030. Its a true SS mostly stock ...Has headers... I'm pushing 425 hp.... I very rarely drive it due to the cost of gas... I get 4 - 6 miles to the gallon..... Its a 4 speed with a hurst ...took out the muncie just because it didn't shift as smooth. I should post a pic...

[EyesOfAnguishbassist]

I'm more of a bike guy myself but my dad has a sweet 78 Camaro that he had redone inside and out, if I can find some pictures I will post..

[JackANSI]

I'm currently restoring a '70 Chevelle. It has a 406 stroker (Small Block Chevy) and a muncie 4-speed. The engine in it used to be in our drag car. We were running a 75 Camaro in the low 12's with only 3.73's in the rear end. Pretty respectable numbers considering we had less than $3K in the car. Including buying the car.

We just bought a front engine dragster that we'll be hoping to get started on soon. It's going to need a lot of work to be track worthy. Chevy powered of course.

I also own a 99 s10 xtreme. It's lowered and whatnot. Not all that fast, but a small block swap out is in the works when my Chevelle gets done.

I just got rid of a '67 Buick Electra 225 this summer.

Never really got into the whole "tuner scene". I have to admit, it's hard to be a 28 year old gear head who's not into tuners. It seems like all of my "car buddies" are a bunch of old dudes.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a firm believer in the big block. I just think a big block with a Solaris S8C, 1200cc injectors, Twin GT40R Turbos, multi-port nitrous, and anti-lag/launch control all tunable from the front seat is a little better than turning a wrench

On the 2.0L in the WRX the fastest pass I've ever made was 12.583 @ 109. I was only ever able to get 12.63 best since, got one good lucky run with the wind at my back I guess Didn't remove anything from the car though, save for the pieces I had to (spare, floor mats, etc). Always wondered how quick I could have gone without an interior, AC, etc..

I popped cyl #3 9,000 miles after leaving 331whp - 315ftlb on the dyno, pushed 93 octane a little too hard to get there though. At 158,000 miles on the engine, I was shocked it lasted that long. I dynoed at 243whp after the first round of upgrades at 4,500 miles, and that was the minimum till it finally gave up on me.

Current have a 2.5L STi block in the car, with a very over-built 2.5L to finish up over the winter to go in this spring. Shooting for 400whp - 450ftlb.

Your mention of the S10 reminded me of my other desire.. The GMC Syclone...

[JackANSI]

Oh.. this is what it looked like:

[metalchurch]

Jack, there's no denying the amount of power that comes from these imports with half the cylinders of a V8. Not only the power but the effieciancy in which they do it. The addition of computers and fuel injection (which is old technology) to the automotive world have definitely raised the bar.

I am very impressed by them thats for sure. I'm old school in the respect that nothing beats the sound of a V8 and the rumble of open headers.

So you have a WRX? those things are badass dude! Is it a Ti?

[KyleMayket]

Is it a Ti?

I think you mean STI, and no, not originally, but he has the new engine which is an STI swap waiting in the wings, that's the engine he's looking for 400-450whp out of.
The very first car I bought was a 95 Mustang GT, it was a 5.0 (the last half year of them, 95 1/2's had that 4.6L) I bought it in 99 and I loved that car, but that's because when I bought it gas was $.75/gal and honestly I spent more on tires for the thing (goodyear eagles in 275/40/17 were $350 a pop). It was bored out .30 over, three angle valve job, heavy cams (damn thing would nearly stall at idle, and it would stall if idling and I turned on the A/C, i was living in SC at the time and needed it) hooker headers, 3 1/2" true dual chrome flowmasters out the rear (which I switched over to the SVO side pipes right before I stopped driving it) it had a 5 speed manual and a 3.73 posi rear end, it was dyno'd at 379 whp. I then bought a PD supercharger for it, but never installed it, but sold the car and S/C with it. Fun car, but my next car was a Ford Focus, and that car was just as fun right out of the box, let alone after a turbo was installed and then lowered it. It was fun in more than just a straight line... I've owned both types, and the modern "tuner" cars in my opinion are tons more fun.

[metalchurch]

Yes, STI, you're right.

[JackANSI]

roll that same tech into a v8 and you've got a monster.

I actually bought the wrx before they had the Sti version here in the US. But it has the motor from a 2006 sti in it now

Needed something to make the car move while I pieced the good motor together. Which is a brand new sti block, iron sleeved and blueprinted. Still waiting on the heads: full port, crower cams, inconel exhaust valves, and 1mm oversized intake valves.

[metalchurch]

roll that same tech into a v8 and you've got a monster.

I actually bought the wrx before they had the Sti version here in the US. But it has the motor from a 2006 sti in it now

Needed something to make the car move while I pieced the good motor together.

No doubt bro! I'd like to go for a ride in the spring when you get it out. I always like those WRX's and the aftermarket seems to be taking off with mods for them as opposed when they first came out.
And for the price : 280hp(base model??), nice ride, gas mileage, reliability, and a realistic all year around car it seems very tempting indeed.

I'll take a Black one