What rights do we have?

esa · Post by **esa** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:25 am

YankeeRose wrote: Esa is SO right about this place.
I'm a single mom...no "Ken" here, LOL and even when I was married to their Dad, I was "The Lone Parent". He is 150 miles away and it wouldn't matter if he was around the block. I can't help but wonder if Esa had my one neighbor and her children in mind?

You're more than welcome to pm me a name to see if we're on the same wave length, but I do know that there are quite a few people there that fit that description. And that was just in the one district.....

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:46 pm

esa wrote:Help help, I'm being repressed!!!!! ::monty python holy grail voice::::grins::

"Monty Python"...classics...they
are all great - I remember my brother watching the show and at first I thought it was WEIRD, but
along with SNL which he also got me to watch, we'd howl with laughter. Shared laughter and the memory of it, is such a wonderful thing, isn't it? I love all the "Monty" movies, but I had to buy "The Meaning of Life" years ago. Just a few: "I couldn't eat another thing"...and the "BOOM"! "The machine that goes PING"!...and due to my Cat'lick upbinging one of my all time fav funny choruses from a song: "Ev'ry sperm is sacred, ev'ry sperm is good, ev'ry sperm is needed, for your neighboorhood"!
Sung, of COURSE, while an Irish Catholic woman is giving birth...
one popping out, right after the other, ridiculously FUNNY! Other FUNNY movies I happen to own, "Animal House", "Young Frankenstein", "Drowning Mona", "The Whole Nine Yards", "Freeway", "Help" - great music, too and some classic Jerry Lewis movies. Funny, but so much more, is "Little Big Man" ("It is a good day to die".)...and I have taped from HBO/Starz/Encore (when I had more than basic cable)...all "The Vacation Movies", "Once Upon a Crime", which nobody has ever seen, but it's a HOOT and lots of others! If anyone I "know" would like to borrow any, just ask.

WAIT...what WAS this thread about? NO, not about Monty Python or funny movies...oh yeah, "Rights". Well, in a very old document, that I don't happen to have a copy of, but I do recall a "little" about, I remember something like this: "We are endowed by our Creator with
certain unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"...eh, that's
close! There are other little "things" that say we have other "Rights"...Freedom of Speech
being foremost in my mind, for
some reason...

"Be who you are and say what you feel...those who mind, don't matter
and those who matter, don't mind."

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:45 pm

YankeeRose said

I couldn't eat another thing

"BRING ME A BUCKET", ugh, I can still picture that stuff backed up in Mr. Creasoat's mouth. UGHhhhh

Speaking of racism, a friend of mine who has traveled all over, and was in Vietnam told me that he always finds it interesting how Americans precieve themselves as such racists, when he said the reality is that other cultures he has visited/lived in have far more predudice among themselves than we do. For instance he said there are very clear heirarchies in the Asian culture, and the people are open about it.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:54 pm

ZappasXWife wrote:YankeeRose said
I couldn't eat another thing
"BRING ME A BUCKET", ugh, I can still picture that stuff backed up in Mr. Creasoat's mouth. UGHhhhh

(ROTFL, picturing the people sitting at their tables getting
"splooshed"!)

Speaking of racism, a friend of mine who has traveled all over, and was in Vietnam told me that he always finds it interesting how Americans precieve themselves as such racists, when he said the reality is that other cultures he has visited/lived in have far more predudice among themselves than we do. For instance he said there are very clear heirarchies in the Asian culture, and the people are open about it.

For sure, as in India, the "Caste"
system, including "untouchables",
NO people, NOT the tv show or movie!

However, in this country, all men (and women) are SUPPOSED to be "created equal"...it says so somewhere.

Peace,
YankeeRose

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:04 pm

lonewolf wrote:
YankeeRose wrote:"Mr. B..........on and on and on
With "states rights" on it, the stars and bars represents rebellion against an ever more opressive federal government. "Property rights" should appear across the top, except that the avatar makes it too small to read, so I took it off.

If you can show me a better symbol of rebellion, please do.

Actually, my former avatar was not the "stars and bars"...it is called the "southern cross". The present avatar is called the "stars and bars". It was the confederacy's 1st national flag. As far as I know, nobody has bastardized it to mean anything else but the 1st flag of the confederacy.

I wouldn't normally change avatars like this, but I don't want to be associated with hatred & prejudice either.

Post by **Ron** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:23 pm

Or the Hutu's and Tutsi's in Rwanda. Half a million people slaughtered during a genocidal campaign in '94. And it's now starting to heat up again.

And jim, I think that songsmith may be right.

RAM Z · Post by **RAM Z** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:33 pm

Hey Ron I just read an article in the Daily News about the problems in Africa and just to quote this guy, he said.."White europeans need to get over their guilt trip and recognize the problems facing sub Saharan Africa
aree caused by Africans themselves. In Africa you have land rich in resources with a surplus of labor, a largely benign climate and fertile soil.
What Africa lacks are honest , competent leaders who care about their own people. If any such leaders have emerged since the colonial period,nearly all have been murdered by the thugs who ended up running
most of the countries.

Nobody has shown more cruelty towards Africans than Africans.Practically
every conflict they have turns into an orgy of mutilation,rape an mass murder.I confess I don't understand it.To an outsider,it seems like a self-evedent case of uncivilized savagery. Whatever the reason ,no outsider can save another person from his or her own self destructive tendencies.

Pouring foregin aid into Africa is like trying to irrigate a desert with spit. Billions and billions of dollars have been poured into that rathole,with virtually no visible results. Africa has a problem with AIDS because it has a problem with wide spread promiscuity. You aren't going to make any headway with the disease without changing the behavior spreading it. African poverty is a result of over population, corruption and innefficiency.

If Europeans and Americans really want to help Africa, they should ban the sale of armmaments. No country that lacks a decent educational system, clean water,sanitary sewers and health care should be allowed to waste money on tanks, armored cars and other weaponry.Last year armament sales worldwide totaled $ 1 trillion".

That is just some of what "Charley Reese" wrote about in the Daily News for Thursday , July 14th ,2005.
You can write to him at ( Charley Reese at P.O. Box 2446,Orlando, Florida,
32802)

Man, I'm sure glad I don't live in Africa!

esa · Post by **esa** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:08 pm

RAM Z wrote:Nobody has shown more cruelty towards Africans than Africans.Practically
every conflict they have turns into an orgy of mutilation,rape an mass murder.I confess I don't understand it.To an outsider,it seems like a self-evedent case of uncivilized savagery. Whatever the reason ,no outsider can save another person from his or her own self destructive tendencies.

Isn't that what we've kinda done? "Spare the rod, spoil the child"
I admitt that this great nation had treated blacks badly for a time, but so did they to the Irish...the Polish...and, well, the women. But I will say what I told a kid in college who was going off on a tirade about how he was being put down by the (white) man for being black... That "You are no more african or a slave than I am a slave holder." In other words I told him that they should quit blaming us for the wrongs done to their people years ago, because we aren't the one's doing it. So...has America took to "pitying" them so badly that they feel the need that all they can do it bitch about how much they have suffered and how much they still need repaid and not need to work? Or not need to go back to the great continent that they are so proud to bring into the conversation to help it out??? Because if that's the case, I shouldn't be on here talking. I have to go get the laundry done, supper started, and run to the store to buy new oil to massage my man's feet with.

Not a racist by any means. But get sick to death of this issue getting beaten to death by people... (if i pissed ya off, sorry)

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:47 pm

esa wrote:
RAM Z wrote:Nobody has shown more cruelty towards Africans than Africans.Practically
every conflict they have turns into an orgy of mutilation,rape an mass murder.I confess I don't understand it.To an outsider,it seems like a self-evedent case of uncivilized savagery. Whatever the reason ,no outsider can save another person from his or her own self destructive tendencies.

Isn't that what we've kinda done? "Spare the rod, spoil the child"
I admitt that this great nation had treated blacks badly for a time, but so did they to the Irish...the Polish...and, well, the women. But I will say what I told a kid in college who was going off on a tirade about how he was being put down by the (white) man for being black... That "You are no more african or a slave than I am a slave holder." In other words I told him that they should quit blaming us for the wrongs done to their people years ago, because we aren't the one's doing it. So...has America took to "pitying" them so badly that they feel the need that all they can do it bitch about how much they have suffered and how much they still need repaid and not need to work? Or not need to go back to the great continent that they are so proud to bring into the conversation to help it out??? Because if that's the case, I shouldn't be on here talking. I have to go get the laundry done, supper started, and run to the store to buy new oil to massage my man's feet with.

Not a racist by any means. But get sick to death of this issue getting beaten to death by people... (if i pissed ya off, sorry)

I understand just about everyone's point of view on this one...the old "put yourself in the other person's shoes", thingy. People are STILL treated differently due to the color of their skin. I witness it
in stores and other places all the time and it's disheartening. Do I think we owe anyone Reparations? Hell no! That is just plain crazy talk. I think there are other countries (which shall remain nameless), like The Great Continent that would have been left to their own devices if it weren't for an all important money making commodity, which shall also remain nameless.

One headache at a time, and that being said, I'm happy to say there's no man to rub oil into MY feet...hey, you should see what a mess they are!

However, I do have to go and get taken on a used car deal, but what the heck...it's the American way! It's not as bad as the place I went to years ago and while I can't mention the name by itself, of the WORST scum sucking Vulture of a used car dealership that I ever had the displeasure to deal with in 2001-2002, I can tell you that one of my favorite Western "buddy" movies is "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid".

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:08 pm

Charlie Rose said

In Africa you have land rich in resources with a surplus of labor, a largely benign climate and fertile soil.

Well he's wrong, they do not have fertile soil at all...

Africa has a problem with AIDS because it has a problem with wide spread promiscuity. You aren't going to make any headway with the disease without changing the behavior spreading it.

I don't know much about Charlie Rose, but I would guess he is a conservative backing the President's plan to put morality/religion in front of science. Under pressure from the Bush administration, the Uganda government is now promoting abstinence and has even engineered a condom shortage among other plans that promote abstinence (which as we all know can turn into un-protected sex) over condom use, condom use that had begun to dramatically decrease the number of new HIV infections in that country.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:37 pm

What the Africans need to do is be educated about the disease and morality is a good thing to promote to them. I mean, condoms are one thing, but that's not going to solve anything...i mean, would you fuck a person with AIDS if you had a condom to use? The risk is still too great! These people need to get tested, and they need to know which ones have the virus. That's where the money should go...to testing and finding out who has it, after they know who has it, then everyone should be aware of that to prevent spreading of the disease...it's just an enormous task!

There is fertile soil in Africa, it's not all desert like you would think!

and also, the article is by Charlie Reese, Charlie Rose is a crazy guy that does insane things with his body...ever see the Charlie Rose Circus??? Very cool.

How the hell did I get drug into this convo???

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:09 pm

ZappasXWife wrote:I don't know much about Charlie Rose, but I would guess he is a conservative backing the President's plan to put morality/religion in front of science.

That does seem to be the agenda right now, isn't it? That's especially true when considering stem-cell research. I'm pro-life, but I mean, c'mon, let's be freakin' reasonable here; there's a point where one has to objectively state that a piece of matter, whether organic or not, is not a human being. I always found metaphysics to be the easiest branch of philosophy. I guess that doesn't hold true for everyone.

But I do not doubt that there are people who would like to see America become a theocracy *coughconstitutionpartycough*. Legislation should always be based on what can be empirically tested and justified. The problem is that religious doctrine cannot be based on empirical reasoning. Therefore, basing legislation on something that is simply contigent on faith is illogical and has no place in a government, because A) The legislation assumes that all people practice the same religion B) The legislation assumes that morals are objective things, but as I stated earlier, if something cannot be empirically tested, how can one know that it's an objective phenomenon* C) Legislation based on morals is facist for it prohibits intellectual freedom. Humans are sentient beings. One can choose, by his or her own free will, to look at pornography, gamble, order an escort, ect. It should be up to the free agent to decide whether to engage in these activities, not a legislative body using religious doctrine to decide whether it's in the public's best interest to engage or not engage in these activies.

*When I originally said there's a time to objectively define something as a human or not, I was speaking about metaphysics. When I said that morals can't be objectively defined, I was speaking about epistemology, which in the abstract cannot be spoken of objectively.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:20 pm

RobTheDrummer wrote:Charlie Rose is a crazy guy that does insane things with his body...ever see the Charlie Rose Circus??? Very cool.

Sorry, Correction! It's the Jim Rose Circus...I'm dumb...

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:14 pm

RobTheDrummer wrote:
RobTheDrummer wrote:Charlie Rose is a crazy guy that does insane things with his body...ever see the Charlie Rose Circus??? Very cool.
Sorry, Correction! It's the Jim Rose Circus...I'm dumb...

Nah, you're not "dumb", you're just mistaken...there IS a vast difference. However, I don't think any or many on here are as edjamucated as bassist_25. Dude, wholly friggin' CRAP!

Who'd a thunk reading something so intelligently written would be so
refreshing? Thank you! See, with very few benches, you got into less trouble, a "state of mind", for sure!

Peace,
YankeeRose

Bert|Evil · Post by **Bert|Evil** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:15 am

YankeeRose wrote:Republican? I volunteered for Kerry, made phone calls from the Blair County Democratic Headquarters and how about this little gem of a site? www.impeachbush.org

It's just one lost cause after another for you, isn't it?

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:42 am

AMEN, AMEN, Vinny couldn't have said it any better nothing else need be said,

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:09 pm

Bert|Evil wrote:
YankeeRose wrote:Republican? I volunteered for Kerry, made phone calls from the Blair County Democratic Headquarters and how about this little gem of a site? www.impeachbush.org
It's just one lost cause after another for you, isn't it?

A Democratic Headquarters in Blair County? What is it, a room at the Penn Alto?

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:35 pm

Bert|Evil wrote:
YankeeRose wrote:Republican? I volunteered for Kerry, made phone calls from the Blair County Democratic Headquarters and how about this little gem of a site? www.impeachbush.org
It's just one lost cause after another for you, isn't it?

"Kerry WON Pennsylvania"! Due in LARGE part to people like me, volunteering what time they could to inform people and some even gave rides to Voters...it wasn't a lost cause, Mr. Evil. Besides, DUH!
PA was the only place that my volunteering had any affect on, so it wasn't a "lost cause" when he won PA. Anything that gives one HOPE is never a lost cause. Plus, it felt good to be able to actually DO something for a change, while feeling that hope. The hope is for the FUTURE, for our children's future...ours' is f'd. Regarding www.impeachbush.org - I also said that I didn't believe Bush would go "bye-bye in the disgrace he deserves, but it's nice to consider", didn't I? I'm a REALIST regarding what's going on. Being that the Conservative majority appointed Supreme Court basically handed him the first election that he LOST by the popular vote, I said Bush would "win" the last Election, actually, no matter how much I wanted it to be differently. How and why? Simple actually, widespead voter fraud, especially in OHIO, where it was known Bush was losing via Polls. Look it all up. Diebold and another manufacturer, possibly ESS, who make 2 of the 3 Voting machines used...the owners are brothers and guess who's their "good buddy"? I've heard that Jeb will be the next Bush in the White House. As long as nobody gives a flying f, nothing will change. Going back to the first so-called Bush "Election", if there were no red flags going up everywhere, no dead people voting, it wouldn't have been so bad, Election-wise, if he'd won fairly. Then came his utterly moronic (but GREAT sources of laughter!), then suddenly "elder statesman-like" speeches Miracle
Ear"-like thingy in his ear, telling or pronouncing every word for him to then say...HAS to be!
He didn't suddenly wake up one day with a clue. We know all of the events that have traspired in this Country and around the world, since he was "Elected" the first time, making the Bush family and their buddies obscene amounts of money...but to some minds I'd guess that makes EVERYTHING okay. The ends justify the means "and all that rot", as my dad used to say.

I've HEARD of the Penn Alto, but I certainly have never been there.
Yes, there's a Democratic Headquarters in Blair County, but I think it's best I only divulge it's location to certain people. "Can't be too careful"!

Peace,
YankeeRose

Bert|Evil · Post by **Bert|Evil** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:56 pm

YankeeRose wrote:
Bert|Evil wrote:
YankeeRose wrote:Republican? I volunteered for Kerry, made phone calls from the Blair County Democratic Headquarters and how about this little gem of a site? www.impeachbush.org
It's just one lost cause after another for you, isn't it?

"Kerry WON Pennsylvania"! Due in LARGE part to people like me, volunteering what time they could to inform people and some even gave rides to Voters...it wasn't a lost cause, Mr. Evil. Besides, DUH!
PA was the only place that my volunteering had any affect on, so it wasn't a "lost cause" when he won PA. Anything that gives one HOPE is never a lost cause. Plus, it felt good to be able to actually DO something for a change, while feeling that hope. The hope is for the FUTURE, for our children's future...ours' is f'd. Regarding www.impeachbush.org - I also said that I didn't believe Bush would go "bye-bye in the disgrace he deserves, but it's nice to consider", didn't I? I'm a REALIST regarding what's going on. Being that the Conservative majority appointed Supreme Court basically handed him the first election that he LOST by the popular vote, I said Bush would "win" the last Election, actually, no matter how much I wanted it to be differently. How and why? Simple actually, widespead voter fraud, especially in OHIO, where it was known Bush was losing via Polls. Look it all up. Diebold and another manufacturer, possibly ESS, who make 2 of the 3 Voting machines used...the owners are brothers and guess who's their "good buddy"? I've heard that Jeb will be the next Bush in the White House. As long as nobody gives a flying f, nothing will change. Going back to the first so-called Bush "Election", if there were no red flags going up everywhere, no dead people voting, it wouldn't have been so bad, Election-wise, if he'd won fairly. Then came his utterly moronic (but GREAT sources of laughter!), then suddenly "elder statesman-like" speeches Miracle
Ear"-like thingy in his ear, telling or pronouncing every word for him to then say...HAS to be!
He didn't suddenly wake up one day with a clue. We know all of the events that have traspired in this Country and around the world, since he was "Elected" the first time, making the Bush family and their buddies obscene amounts of money...but to some minds I'd guess that makes EVERYTHING okay. The ends justify the means "and all that rot", as my dad used to say.

I've HEARD of the Penn Alto, but I certainly have never been there.
Yes, there's a Democratic Headquarters in Blair County, but I think it's best I only divulge it's location to certain people. "Can't be too careful"!

Peace,
YankeeRose

DUH??? Pennsylvania was a blue state because of Allegheny and Philadelphia Counties, as usually is the case. As a former Alleghany County resident, I can tell you that Allegheny County showed the lightest shade of blue for a presidential election in recent history. Smurf blue, perhaps, to go along with Mayor (S)Murphy. Case in point, Pennsylvania really wasn’t that far away from being a red state.

Fear not, you know that there will be another Democrat in office someday, especially when you consider that he/she will be getting votes from:
1. People who can’t/ won’t speak English
2. Socialists
3. “Minorities”
4. Vegetarians and vegans (my personal favorite)
5. People who don’t want to live within their means
6. Homosexuals
7. Tree huggers
8. Circus midgets
9. Unions (which seem to be as popular as the Pontiac Fiero these days)
10. Those who fear Capitalism and confine themselves to theoretical doldrums of academia
11. Rock stars and artists (Bono, for example) who have made a career of whining and missing the point on every and any given level
12. Legal and law enforcement
13. People who dream about the legalization of marijuana
14. Animal rights activists

Etc., terapax, requiem, and so forth… I’m sure than I have missed a few!

I am a realist!! You, my dear, are oblivious!! How could you ever consider yourself to be a realist? You only see crumbs of the big picture.

You need to realize that there is a confluence, of sorts, between what the media wants you to believe, and what you yourself may want to believe in some attempt to make your beliefs credible. I could use your voting machine opining as an example. In other words, you’ll believe whatever you want to believe. Speculating, yet again, about the voting machines in a presidential election is simply sophomoric. Did you look at all of the voting machines in America? Did you look at other elections, even the local elections, which these machines serviced? Did you ever stop to notice that you are using the example of the state that Kerry decided to concede upon, without knowing the official results (which knocks the dentures out of your rant)?

Also, regarding an earlier post of yours, there wasn’t a surplus or balanced budget to start the Clinton hangover. Just some leftover Kool Aid. Your diaper needs changed, as well!

Is your secret headquarters in the Station Mall?

Relativity,
Bert Bizzle

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:16 pm

Rush, is that you?

------>JMS

ZappasXWife · Post by **ZappasXWife** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:41 pm

Rush, is that you?

now that, songsmith, is FUNNY. Man that Bert Evil guy scares me. Good job voicing your opinions though Bert.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:44 pm

songsmith wrote:Rush, is that you? ------>JMS

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Loose quote from a most gifted
"minority": "The most valuable possession you can have is an open heart." - Carlos Santana

Mr. Evil, it's apparent that no matter how much $ you may have, you are very poor, indeed. I'd never tell you where the B.C.D.H.
are at. To the rest of your totally offending, patronizing, condescending, FAR right-wing rhetoric and plain venom, I say what I tell those I want to placate and pacify: WHATEVER!

Peace,
YankeeRose

Bert|Evil · Post by **Bert|Evil** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:51 pm

songsmith wrote:Rush, is that you? ------>JMS

Nope!!! Bert in 'da hizau!!

Be sure to check out my new band. We're called Bert Bizzle and the Breast Feeding Moms.

Bert|Evil · Post by **Bert|Evil** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:12 pm

YankeeRose wrote:
songsmith wrote:Rush, is that you? ------>JMS

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Loose quote from a most gifted
"minority": "The most valuable possession you can have is an open heart." - Carlos Santana

Mr. Evil, it's apparent that no matter how much $ you may have, you are very poor, indeed. To the rest of your totally offending, patronizing, condescending, FAR right-wing rhetoric and plain venom, I say what I tell those I want to placate: WHATEVER!

Peace,
YankeeRose

First off, “minority” is in quotes simply because I feel that the word is not applicable these days.

Believe it or not I’ve volunteered a nominal portion of my time over the last 4 years with a well-known global relief, similar to CARE (their colors are orange and white if you need a hint). I do possess wealth in areas that you may never experience, or at least you will not give me credit for.

I bring realism to you, yet you shudder. Do you want reality?

RAM Z · Post by **RAM Z** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:42 pm

Good one Bert! I mosty agree but, except for the pot thing though!

I know it'll never be totally legal so why dream about it right ? Cause it's my dream "please" don't wake me up yet K ! No seriously , I Know it'll never be legal in my life time cause they (the government ) can't make all the money from it cause we can grow it without any help from them! I do however wish they could at least decriminalize it some what! There sure is alot of people in the pokey fer just smoke'n grass in their free time! Why in the world should we fill up our prisions and jails with such minor offenders? We need to let em out so we have more room for murders,rapists,child molesters and other violent offenders! I feel the war on drugs is a total waste of our money and could be used for better things like A.I.D.S research or something like that!. Our Government can force us to join the military if they have too ( hint...DRAFT) but still tell us we can't smoke a fatty along the river and enjoy the site of this great (free) country we are live'n in, and all the while they're still approving other "man made" drugs that cuase worse problems than the ones they are try'n to fix. That's just my opinion though and I could go on all day about the reefer thing but, I won't!

Bono sucks! That, I do agree with. I get so tired of hear'n his crap. Either be a activist or a rock star!

BTW, It was good to talk to ya again at the" Hillisde" the other weekend! It's been awhile dude.

P.S. ,I don't remember see'n any AIR GUITAR. Sorry if I missed it ! That shit ROCKS.