Worst band to ever get a recording contract

[HurricaneBob]

Dont even mention my boys Milli Vanilli! Cause ill come knockin..

[DirtySanchez]

Dont even mention my boys Milli Vanilli! Cause ill come knockin..

Buncha damn nobody's bustin on MV. Hey at least they got signed you losers

[songsmith]

Robert Johnson WAS about precise polyrhythmic execution. NOBODY played like that before him. He also sang, well, basically like a black woman, in the upper register, instead of the unintelligible growly male norm of blues music then. He was the Jimi Hendrix AND the Robert Plant of his day.

Johnny, since when do you subscribe to The History of the Blues As Determined By Eric Clapton? Treat yourself to a good read and check out Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues. It strips away a lot of the Robert Johnson mythology, but opens up a wealth of forgotten major artists. Taken out of context, as most modern listeners hear him, RJ sounds revolutionary. But he was only a minor pop artist in his day, emulating the popular stars of the time. He's valuable as a gateway artist, a time machine to a musical era. But he's been packaged for so long as THE only artist who mattered from his time. That's a disservice to the history of American music. By the time he got hip in Britain in the 60s, blues and rock had been evolved by artists who didn't even know he existed.

But the thing is, I don't just listen to Robert Johnson, I've done my homework from Bukka to Big Mama, but I still thrill to Preachin' Blues, or .32/20 Blues. Obviously, there's a big gap between 1936 and 1966 that was filled by a whole bunch of guys... none of whom played with Robert Johnson's fire or grasp of disparate styles from Piedmont thumb-bass to stuff that obviously came via Mississippi field hollers. I never bought into the sale of his soul to Legba or Ol' Scratch or whoever, although that is a kinda cool angle. I just love how he plays and sings. That he was poisoned by a jealous man is interesting, but the meat of Robert Johnson was in two recording sessions in hotel rooms, not at the Friar's Point crossroads.
Plus, his recordings were by no means rare when Clapton found him. They were the best-selling Lomax tapes for a number of years before the 60's, although blues was far from being as popular as it is now. Part of the reason: no discernible heirs at that time, so nobody had to be paid royalties. They ripped off blues guys pretty regularly back then.
Anyway, Clapton doing Robert Johnson songs is like me doing Eric Clapton songs. You can recognize the song, but it ain't nowhere near the same.
Again, why am I so defensive about this? I must be getting my period or something. -------->JMS

[witchhunt]

This is the most pathetic thread I've ever seen. What is to be gained by a bunch of nobodys tearing down successful bands? I don't like all the bands mentioned, but I do know somebody that likes any band you can name. These bands are successfull and have record deals because they can relate to the people that are out there buying music, which is something a lot of talented musicians can't do. Nickelback has already written more hit songs than whatever your obscure/weird favorite band is. For that matter, I'm sure the White Stripes have too.

If I remember right, weren't you crying about the lack of music related threads a couple months ago? Sorry in advance if I'm wrong.

[DirtySanchez]

This is the most pathetic thread I've ever seen. What is to be gained by a bunch of nobodys tearing down successful bands? I don't like all the bands mentioned, but I do know somebody that likes any band you can name. These bands are successfull and have record deals because they can relate to the people that are out there buying music, which is something a lot of talented musicians can't do. Nickelback has already written more hit songs than whatever your obscure/weird favorite band is. For that matter, I'm sure the White Stripes have too.

If I remember right, weren't you crying about the lack of music related threads a couple months ago? Sorry in advance if I'm wrong.

He was/has. I believe it's called trolling.

[whitedevilone]

Mike Mcreedy should NEVER EVER solo.

[MeYatch]

yeah, I was. I just think this thread is rediculous; the fact that nobody seems to understand why some of these bands have record deals is the reason why nobody on here has a record deal.

[nitekast]

Alot of people are gonna be pissed but i definately think that Chris Daughtry doesnt deserve one. If it wasnt for american idol he'd still be flipping burgers. I dont see why everyone was all into him. He's an ok singer, not great. He probably doesnt write his songs or the music for them either.

[Naga]

yeah, I was. I just think this thread is rediculous; the fact that nobody seems to understand why some of these bands have record deals is the reason why nobody on here has a record deal.

We're musicians. Seeing as we're in the business, we've got more of a "right and wrong" standpoint to throw our opinions around and just be jackasses about it

I dunno though. We need a good place to vent stuff off, and as long as we're not starting flame wars and can agree to disagree, really, what does it matter. I KNOW why I don't have a record deal and know why I WON'T have a record deal. Does that really matter to me? Nah. It'd be nice if I could live off what I want to do, yeah. Does it mean that have no right to say a band that a popular America with watered-down music tastes should've never gotten that far?...

Well, yeah. Because really, what do any of us know about the big markets? What do we know about getting into that kind of placement? Little, but some. I do know that timing is everything, and I know that location is everything. I also know that sometimes, it's not what you know, but who you know. And beyond that? Hell, luck can be called a major factor too. But to say that we disagree with why some have found that niche is just plain American, it's in our Amendments

[bassist_25]

Alot of people are gonna be pissed but i definately think that Chris Daughtry doesnt deserve one. If it wasnt for american idol he'd still be flipping burgers. I dont see why everyone was all into him. He's an ok singer, not great. He probably doesnt write his songs or the music for them either.

Anyone who turns down a position with Fuel when the only thing worthwhile they've done so far is American Idol deserves the "Assclown of the Year" award. Maybe Fuel wasn't good enough for him; he was waiting for that phone call from The Rolling Stones instead. Maybe he honestly thought that he had a shot at a legitimate solo career that will last 30 years. Either way, he's living in a fantasy world with elves and magical unicorns.

[Banned]

yeah, I was. I just think this thread is rediculous; the fact that nobody seems to understand why some of these bands have record deals is the reason why nobody on here has a record deal.

We're musicians. Seeing as we're in the business, we've got more of a "right and wrong" standpoint to throw our opinions around and just be jackasses about it

Funny, I was thinking kinda the opposite . . . that anyone with a functional set of ears is entitled to an opinion on music, and even though we're musicians we're still just fans who have our likes and dislikes.

[bassist_25]

Funny, I was thinking kinda the opposite . . . that anyone with a functional set of ears is entitled to an opinion on music, and even though we're musicians we're still just fans who have our likes and dislikes.

True, but I think as musicians, we listen to music differently than people who aren't musos. I'm not a professional painter, and I know that I view a painting a lot differently than someone who's actually an artist.

[EyesOfAnguishbassist]

One band I could never get was Nirvana and why so many people thought they were great.

I agree here, I don't think Nirvana was bad, I liked em, but i do think they were a bit overrated..

And I hate Moby

[bassist_25]

P.s. For the record, while I'm not a huge Nickelback fan, I always thought that they were good at what they did, and that is write solid four minute-long radio-ready songs. They're not going to change the face of music, but they have a lot of songs that a lot of diverse people like to hear. I swear that like half of their last album was released as singles. They're kind of like the Bachman-Turner Overdrive of my generation: Just solid rock music without the pretension and bullshit.

[redawg]

James Blunt

[redawg]

Paul, a huge hell up to you guys for a great time at Glenn's place. You guys ROCKED!!!! Thank you for letting me jam bass and drums with you. Rob the Drummer, I ALWAYS enjoy your playing. Thanks for letting me play your kick ass drum kit. That's the first time I ever got to play a DW kit Sorry for the hijack

[lonewolf]

Bruce Springsteen

[lonewolf]

In defense of The Who, Who else wrote 2 rock operas?

Who else had 2 movies?

Here's to winning the 1978 Penn State Pinball Championship



Ya, dat was ME

[lonewolf]

[Mistress_DB]

P.s. For the record, while I'm not a huge Nickelback fan, I always thought that they were good at what they did, and that is write solid four minute-long radio-ready songs. They're not going to change the face of music, but they have a lot of songs that a lot of diverse people like to hear. I swear that like half of their last album was released as singles. They're kind of like the Bachman-Turner Overdrive of my generation: Just solid rock music without the pretension and bullshit.

I kinda see Nickelback as the Bon Jovi of this era (minus the attractive lead singer).

[Naga]

In defense of The Who, Who else wrote 2 rock operas?

Who else had 2 movies?

Here's to winning the 1978 Penn State Pinball Championship



Ya, dat was ME

It's like I said, I can agree that they've more than made their mark on the musical world. They've done things that even a lot of the higher-end bands these days could only dream about. For their place in music history, I give them my respect... I just don't like them

[RobTheDrummer]

Macy Gray
Afro Man

[Lifer]

I'm gonna say this, I think any band who have changed themselves/style/personality to fit into a trend, whether or not popular at the time (in which case, most are) does not deserve the success and integrity they didn't really earn. For example, a band in a non specific music scene, who hasn't played many shows starts getting popular at the national level within a year to 6 months of the whole inception of the band. Listeners,labels, just building these bands up so big and legendary before there debut or sophmore album comes out. And at that point,when the album is released they really don't need their album or even say they're a musician anymore because the label gave a charity to a select few pretty boys that got built up along with listener's trust, or I should say people's weak mindset to trust in anything. Into this colossal horrible giant that can't be stopped, ever. It's a shame because they will one day be on a said genre's greatest hits comp. as a remember-when-this-song-off-this-album-written-by-kids-who-saw-music-as-a-way-to-just-make-money. The kids in the band are doing themselves and music in the purest form a diservice when bands like the aforementioned exist. Music is not a means to an end. It's its own entity. Record labels are taking music out of context, and out of its true form of art. I can't wait until the day when record labels are barely existent in the music world. And music is just something people pay the BAND, to see the BAND play for them. And their albums can be bought only from the band. Not from a store that all the band's heart and soul, bread and butter, is stolen from them and is spent on promotion for the other bands that happen to be on the same label as the first said band. I'll probably be dead when that happens.

But yeah that turned into more of a rant than anything. I didn't mean to make that lengthy of a post.

[ToonaRockGuy]

In defense of The Who, Who else had 2 movies?

The Beatles.

[BassFinger]

In defense of The Who, Who else had 2 movies?

The Beatles.

But they were good.......songwriters.